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Which gas stove to choose - Vaillant or De Dietrich? Opinions, failure rate ...

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  • #31 19219447
    Ricorro
    Level 17  
    matrix55a I entered the subject very deeply because I myself have this dilemma.
    I read a lot about it, including checkout for service, etc .... My opinion is, please don't be offended:

    what a rich cottage.

    1. You have a lot of Visman 200 ... this new line, the price is 11 thousand
    2. on average, Vailant De Ditrich and a few others, around 6-7 thousand
    3. little termet / imergas or other 3-4

    Disregarding all the pros and cons, I answered a simple question whether when I buy Termet for 3.4 thousand it will work and whether I have to spend 6 thousand and up right now. I replied that I had money for this, that if I had to argue after a few years, it was bushes and new, and that I had a guarantee to use it, because you have to use it in most cases

    The more money you have, the more you will be willing to spend the more, the quality / price ratio is of little importance, it's like buying butt rags because it falls out! ha ha ha but weaves it.

    I will ask otherwise, if you have more money, do you have so much because you act extravagantly or rationally and you have more and more of it and you can afford more and more things.

    I have 200m2 and I take 20kW

    you have 25-30 max, although I think that 25kW should be enough. The converter is about 600-800W per 1m2 = you have a max of 24kW

    PS. Unless you have a woman who still wants 25 degrees. then take 30kW
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  • #32 19221503
    matrix55a
    Level 11  
    Thank you @Riccoro for the answer. I do not take offense. Unfortunately, I do not have much money :-( . The necessity to replace the furnace is caused by the age of the parents and problems related to the fuel in the coal furnace. I have to think carefully about choosing a boiler. It is known that sometimes it is better to pay extra and have more peace in accordance with the principle of cheap is expensive. On the other hand, I read about the costs of post-warranty repairs of branded boilers and I am more and more inclined to buy a cheaper boiler. I have a DHW Termet myself, which was repaired several times. After all, it was more profitable to buy another used one (also Termet), which has been used by me for some time.
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  • #33 19258453
    pemir2
    Level 8  
    Hello,
    Do not buy Vaillant, I have a stove for about 7 years Eco TEC pro, it heats the floor in the cottage 65 m2 and hot water. Every year you have to do a service for almost PLN 400. Vaillant grants a service concession only for selected ones, so there is no competition and you need to use the company's service because others do not have access to parts and the gasket must be replaced with each periodic series. Moving on to the failure, after three years, the motherboard died when the apartment was empty for a year and a half and in the winter the pic was maintained at a temperature of 10 degrees, the cost of PLN 1000 plus labor and service about PLN 500. Currently, the pump has fallen, the cost of the service and diagnosis almost PLN 1600. The service technician bluntly said that the pumps were weak and after a few years they were failing. Considering that I am buying a leading brand, the top one is a FAILURE.
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  • #34 19362454
    Krawczykowy
    Level 2  
    De Dietrich MCR3 PLUS 24T + 120 l tank - this boiler definitely! Don't buy a Vailant. Above the guys have explained well what and how, I have no more to add, except that I have a de dietrich boiler myself and I recommend it with a pure heart
  • #35 19745570
    lukasz.krk
    Level 2  
    I am writing for posterity. I bought a Vaillant and I DO NOT RECOMMEND BUYING! The following is a justification: a

    The problem is control. It can be controlled by thermostats:
    - on / off (the simplest, read on the net what it is),
    - modulating, but ONLY ORIGINAL Vaillant based on the eBus data bus. And here is the problem - Vaillant thermostats are ugly and smartphone applications that supposedly control them are terrible - read the reviews in the google play store or appstore.

    All smart thermostats, e.g. Nest, Tado, Netatmo, or native Tech controllers are based on OpenTherm (not supported by Vaillant).
    Of course, smart thermostats also work in on / off mode, but then it is not so smart anymore.

    All in all, the Beetroot Vaillant forces you to use their brash thermostats ... all over Europe except in the Netherlands or Belgium, where it sells an adapter for OpenTherm. You can buy it, but if you install it in Poland, you will lose the warranty. Rude and beetroot!
  • #36 19800268
    Ricorro
    Level 17  
    I took up to about 200m2 Termet gold 25 kw house would be enough even 20kw but the money was the same. So 3.5 thousand. For the entire alteration before the holidays, I paid 6.3 thousand for everything full. It is now December consumption of gas turned on in 2021.
    1. October - 49m3
    2. November 149 m3
    December 262m3
    For a month, the same central heating and domestic hot water as there was no sun (as there was domestic hot water from the PV installation)
    The total cost of about PLN 1000 at home, technology of summer 2011 production, temperature 20.5 to 21 degrees
    I am very pleased with the savings of the stove for the time being
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  • #37 21367290
    inostro
    Level 1  
    I do not recommend De Dietrich. Tragic service. No parts available, I waited a month for them to import from China.... I waited a month for them to import parts from China. On top of that, waiting times are very long and service technicians feel like princes because there are not enough of them. It is better to pay extra but have the service in a few days and the parts on site.
  • #38 21369700
    skopystynski
    Level 1  
    I bought a Vaillant gas cooker a few years ago and I am totally unhappy with it. It was supposed to be a Mercedes and it is a total bubble. It stops working, then suddenly works. The service arrives differently too. A disaster.

Topic summary

The discussion compares two gas boiler models: Vaillant ecoTEC VC plus 206/5-5 with a 120 l tank and De Dietrich MCR3 PLUS 24T with a 120 l hopper, focusing on reliability, maintenance, and cost-effectiveness. Vaillant features a stainless steel heat exchanger and reportedly easier cleaning, while De Dietrich uses a silicon-aluminum exchanger and a composite hydroblock, which may require exchanger removal for thorough cleaning, potentially increasing service costs. De Dietrich is noted for quieter operation and cheaper spare parts, but some users report long service delays and parts availability issues. Vaillant is considered a more established brand with a more complex service network but has been criticized for expensive repairs, proprietary thermostat compatibility issues, and pump failures. The discussion also touches on modulation ranges (4.3 kW vs. 5.7 kW), warranty terms, and the importance of local service availability. Alternative brands like Immergas Victrix EXA and Termet are mentioned, with mixed opinions on their performance and service. Some users recommend cascade boiler setups for reliability in guesthouse applications. Overall, the choice depends on local service support, maintenance preferences, and budget considerations, with De Dietrich favored for cost and quietness, and Vaillant for brand reputation and simpler exchanger cleaning.
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