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  • #1 18151866
    Nie ważne 1234
    Level 4  
    Are bluetooth headphones harmful?
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  • #2 18152175
    ArturAVS
    Moderator
    Nie ważne 1234 wrote:
    Are bluetooth headphones harmful?

    The sound levels damage your hearing.
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  • #3 18152438
    Nie ważne 1234
    Level 4  
    ArturAVS wrote:
    Nie ważne 1234 wrote:
    Are bluetooth headphones harmful?

    The sound levels damage your hearing.



    What about the waves?
  • #4 18152450
    ArturAVS
    Moderator
    Nie ważne 1234 wrote:
    What about the waves?

    Nothing, with such BT power, they are completely negligible.
  • #5 18152451
    c2h5oh
    Moderator
    Nie ważne 1234 wrote:
    ... What about the waves?

    They are just as harmful as sea waves.
  • #6 18152452
    ArturAVS
    Moderator
    c2h5oh wrote:
    as harmful as sea waves.

    They can kidnap the daredevil into the middle of the ocean or throw it on the rocks :-)
  • #7 18153126
    Madrik
    moderator of Robotics
    Many people have already thrown themselves on the rocks, listening to bottom music ... :D
  • #8 18153140
    Millaka
    Level 24  
    ArturAVS wrote:
    They can kidnap the daredevil into the middle of the ocean or throw it on the rocks

    They can also kill on a pedestrian crossing, which is the greatest harmfulness of these headphones :)
  • #9 18153727
    Marcin125
    Level 28  
    They are just as harmful as wi-fi, cell phones, microwave ovens, etc.
    There are so-called Polish norms, that is now a copy of EU norms, which allow certain norms = read "they are harmful".
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  • #10 18153734
    Krzysztof Kamienski
    Level 43  
    Additionally, as the name suggests, they color the teeth blue :cry: . This dye passes through the Estachian tube and, as it returns through the throat, is deposited on the teeth.
  • #11 18153753
    Justyniunia
    Level 36  
    Apparently only on molars.
  • #12 18153800
    andrzej20001
    Level 43  
    Subject such as the harmfulness of fumes when soldering once a week, i.e. a lot ...
  • #13 18154037
    zetdeel
    Level 39  
    Nie ważne 1234 wrote:
    ... What about the waves?
    Cows stop producing milk from them and hens lay eggs.
  • #14 18154805
    Madrik
    moderator of Robotics
    Marcin125 wrote:
    They are just as harmful as wi-fi, cell phones, microwave ovens, etc.
    There are so-called Polish norms, that is now a copy of EU norms, which allow certain norms = read "they are harmful".


    Read: " I don't know what's going on, and since I don't know what's going on, I will fight it on principle and just in case, and tell incredible stories about it ".

    How ignorant you have to be to compare WiFi or a mobile phone to a microwave oven?
  • #15 18155117
    phanick
    Level 28  
    Once, when I still had a CRT monitor and a microwave was standing next to it, when it was working the picture on the monitor was slightly shaky, just like when the phone was lying next to it and someone was calling.
    Of course, even moving a magnet near such a monitor produces much more visible effects.
  • #17 18155181
    phanick
    Level 28  
    How do you want to prove that anything in this world is harmless? You would have to have a second identical clone and apply something to one that you want to prove harmless, and not the other.
    Then you would have to investigate whether any cell of both of these people has mutated, whether harmful compounds have appeared in their bodies, etc.

    Equally, even if the mutation took place, maybe it happened spontaneously, and not as a result of applying what you prove harmlessness?

    Looking only at the macroscopic effects does not give you any judgment, because sometimes the effect may be visible after several decades, and sometimes it may not show up at all.
  • #18 18155189
    Marcin125
    Level 28  
    Madrik wrote:
    Marcin125 wrote:
    They are just as harmful as wi-fi, cell phones, microwave ovens, etc.
    There are so-called Polish norms, that is now a copy of EU norms, which allow certain norms = read "they are harmful".


    Read: " I don't know what's going on, and since I don't know what's going on, I will fight it on principle and just in case, and tell incredible stories about it ".

    How ignorant you have to be to compare WiFi or a mobile phone to a microwave oven?


    I see you don't understand. I gave the devices that are at our home and generate an electromagnetic field.

    Do they meet the standards? - YES
    Are they harmful? - YES
    Paradox? - NOT necessarily
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  • #19 18155336
    Madrik
    moderator of Robotics
    Marcin125 wrote:

    I see you don't understand. I gave the devices that are at our home and generate an electromagnetic field.


    Even your brain produces the electromagnetic field. Will you start with its liquidation?

    Marcin125 wrote:

    Do they meet the standards? - YES


    What are you clinging to?

    Marcin125 wrote:

    Are they harmful? - YES


    And that's your presumption. If you present a hypothesis, you should provide arguments to support your conclusions. You, on the other hand, do not give arguments, but treat conclusions as arguments.

    Marcin125 wrote:

    Paradox? - NOT necessarily


    Yes, not necessarily. One must know what a "paradox" is, otherwise the word is used in inappropriate situations.
  • #20 18155984
    Anonymous
    Level 1  
  • #21 18156333
    Madrik
    moderator of Robotics
    nemo07 wrote:
    [
    Zajezdzasz amen it, and so already clogged up by a few similar to you (but not so extreme) bored moderators .
    The electrode becomes boring. It seems that there is no salvation anymore.


    Yes. The electrode is supposed to be boring, for people who do not have knowledge of science, physics and technology, make strange assumptions and invent incredible things born out of ignorance.

    This is a technical forum. There is no room for supposition, magic and lack of logic in technology. However, there are other portals where they will be happy to welcome anyone who likes to spread rubbish, uncreated stories and celebrate ignorance as a way of life.

    If you write that something is harmful - give examples, research, in a word - prove your thesis.

    I remind you that when you write all these things, you often just use the things you denigrate.

    However, I understand your attitude. From the beginning of civilization, there have been people who fear and dread anything they did not understand.

    You and your friends are like the villagers from "Konopielka". They know everything best, they have an explanation for everything and make sure that no one jumps in front of the line. And when he does it, the enemy's worst. Although everyone has harvesters around, and they still mow one field for 5 days with sickles, and they go to sleep with hens, because using light at night is unnatural.
  • #22 18158317
    Adamcyn
    Level 38  
    nemo07 wrote:
    The electrode becomes boring.
    Madrik wrote:

    Yes. The electrode is supposed to be boring, for people who do not have knowledge of science, physics and technology, make strange assumptions and invent incredible things born out of ignorance.

    If you are bored here, I recommend another topic about harmfulness.

    There, among others, there are policemen who have been irradiating their testicles for years. :D

    https://www.elektroda.pl/rtvforum/topic3612367.html
  • #23 18333043
    Grzegorz_madera
    Level 38  
    Madrik wrote:
    If you write that something is harmful - give examples, research, in a word - prove your thesis.

    That I would shyly ask if a colleague can prove his thesis that they are not harmful?
  • #24 18335643
    Madrik
    moderator of Robotics
    I am not saying they are harmless.
    I am only asking you to define the degree and conditions in which they are harmful and support it with some reasonable argument, and not on the level of "because my hen has no nose" ...

    And somehow I can't wait. So far, only rumors, slander and information "because I read on the Internet".

    I would like to read the information that "from the level of 54.6 psuedofaradaj, the wave with the frequency XYX, XYZ causes the decay of the male egg mitochondria. Study made by professor Superhafting from NASA, available at the link ...".

    And somehow I can't fulfill my whim.
    I'm not going to prove the harmlessness of something there. I fight the epidemic of duplicating unverified information, ignorance and swallowing every fake news that you see.

    When I get a valid argument, I'll adjust my point of view.
    Until then, I will score any instances of panic, for no good reason.
  • #26 18967935
    Tommy82
    Level 41  
    Each earphone in people with predisposition can cause problems, e.g. otitis.
  • #27 18968032
    Madrik
    moderator of Robotics
    Gaspodzik wrote:
    However, they do have a health effect. I recommend the article. https://radartechnologiczny.pl/4-zagrozenia-uzykuje-bezpwiedzowych-sluchawek/


    Third sentence in the introduction to this "article":
    Quote:
    We present in the article potentially threats, what it can carry using wireless headphones with you.


    In a word, it is exactly the same as the potential threats waiting for passersby, on the lanes: 1 - Tabun of rushing, scared African elephants ...

    So at the beginning, the author clearly writes that what is below is basically improbable, but it could happen.

    It gets even better. We learn that our headphones are "deep in the ear canal" and "emit a signal straight to the head". That the blood is thinning, causing damage to neurons ...

    In addition, 3/4 of the "article" are huge stock pictures with despairing people and a large font proclaiming the pogrom of all forms of life.
    We will find out that headphones increase free radicals (I wonder if the author even knows what they are?) And damage reproductive organs (sex always attracts attention).

    Typical semantic phrases, characteristic of conspiracy theories are used - they do not indicate anything specifically, but try to stimulate the reader's imagination - and the author of the text is not responsible for it ...

    And at the end, the author happily states, in a small font ... that everything he described is possible, but practically unheard of, that the headphones are actually safe and the radiation doses used in their case are harmless, because what he described applies to extreme high exposure levels and just not to wear headphones 24/7 because that might be a bit unhealthy ...

    Oh, and all the reliability of the "article". Typical clickbait. Attract attention, write amazing things, at the end say that it is not true and nothing happened - in case someone wants to sue someone here ...

    Once again, I am appealing - if you are reading something, do not stop at the title and introduction, but calmly analyze what you are reading until the very end.
    Because then such "gems" of junk news are distributed, often only under the influence of emotions and a few large letters ... because you do not want to read the small ones ...
  • #28 18968166
    Adamcyn
    Level 38  
    Madrik wrote:
    It gets even better. We learn that our headphones are "deep in the ear canal" and "emit a signal straight to the head". That the blood is thinning, causing damage to neurons ...

    And this is due to the thermal effect. :)

    Madrik wrote:
    the headphones are actually safe, and the radiation doses used in their case are harmless,

    These doses are easily measurable - are you looking for specific values?
  • #29 18968250
    Madrik
    moderator of Robotics
    For bluetooth devices such as the aforementioned headphones, the transmitting power level of about 2.5 mW is the norm. The specification of the technology allows up to 100 mW of transmitting power, but ... no one normally uses such values.
    This can be easily converted into intensity according to the formula for the surface of the sphere, depending on its radius. Let's remember about the influence of distance.

    In practice - the signal is so weak that it is almost not measurable with typical technical measures (i.e. with relatively large measurement ranges). This is one of the weakest signals found in today's wireless devices. As a result, until today no one has even played with any research on the health effects of this technology, since there is a problem with investigating whether there is any influence of much more powerful transmitting devices at all.

    But for fanatics and skeptics, it doesn't matter. For people who radiate something, this effect is always comparable to the power of a super-radar with a power of thousands of megawatts placed on the head.

    How it radiates death on the spot and over. The destruction of mankind is already looking in the eyes and only a foil cap gives hope for rescue. ;)
  • #30 18968719
    darts
    Level 15  
    It is a pity that these "magneto-cell-electro-ray-skeptics" will not enter the military services, because there they would see slightly higher radiation powers.

Topic summary

The discussion centers around the potential harmfulness of Bluetooth headphones. Initial concerns focus on sound levels damaging hearing, while subsequent responses address the electromagnetic waves emitted by Bluetooth devices. Many participants argue that the power levels of Bluetooth signals are negligible compared to other devices like Wi-Fi and microwaves, suggesting that any health risks are minimal. Some responses humorously compare Bluetooth waves to sea waves, while others emphasize the need for scientific evidence to support claims of harm. A few participants mention specific health effects, such as otitis, and discuss the SAR (Specific Absorption Rate) values of devices like Apple AirPods, concluding that they are within safe limits. Overall, the conversation highlights a mix of skepticism and calls for empirical evidence regarding the safety of Bluetooth technology.
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