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Separate sound card vs Realtek ALC892?

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  • #1 18374838
    marcin.k.
    Level 8  
    Hello,
    Recently I had a reflection, is it profitable to invest in a separate sound card when using a PC mainly with headphones? I am currently using Takstar PRO82 headphones. Usually entertainment, music, games, movies. In this case, will you hear any significant difference between the integrated Realtek ALC892, and even a separate Audigy FX or RX?
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  • #2 18374846
    Anonymous
    Level 1  
  • #3 18374853
    sylweksylwina
    Moderator of Computers service
    @Erbit
    Cooo? The difference in image fluidity? You must be kidding. Certainly not today with modern CPUs.

    The average computer user will not notice any difference in sound quality. It's not AC'97. I omit that some motherboard manufacturers really make every effort to ensure that the sound from the integrated is at the highest level by using better quality capacitors, replaceable opamps, isolation from the rest of the board, etc.

    Audigy FX is a really budget card, the RX is a bit better, but I would not recommend both for as much money as they cost to anyone in my life. If someone is looking for a good sound, I recommend an external USB DAC, or a better internal card.
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  • #4 18375108
    marcin.k.
    Level 8  
    The sound card can affect the smoothness of the image on the i5 8400, GTX 1060, 16 GB RAM DDR4 on the ASRock Z370 Pro4? I would like to add that I will not play with any advanced 5.1 or 7.1 configurations, too many cables. On these headphones at 24 bit 96000 Hz the sound quality is satisfactory, but with a better sound card will I notice a difference in sound quality? Recently, I had the opportunity to compare the sound on the Eurolive B615D speakers, even on the old Creativ SB Live 5.1 the quality was better than on the integrated card (but from the old laptop). But I am curious what it would be like in my present case.
  • #5 18375153
    Dra98
    Moderator of Computers service
    marcin.k. wrote:
    On these headphones at 24 bit 96000 Hz

    You can compare and check your listening capabilities, e.g.
    https://www.enjoyaudio.org/index.php?lng=pl&t...me=frequencyTest&fileName=data%2Fsilence.flac
    if someone is not a dolphin or a bat, then above 18kHz it will be difficult to hear sounds.
    General information about the new codecs can be seen
    https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/high-end-pc-audio,3733-19.html
    If the producer of the album does not break something, they are completely OK.

    (I use the Creative X-Fi model 460 for personal reasons and it's quite OK - https://pclab.pl/art16315-4.html
    however, the problem with older cards is related to drivers for new systems.)
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  • #6 18382272
    RitterX
    Level 40  
    Even the budget Sound Blaster Audigy SB0570 will be better than the mentioned Realtek.
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  • #7 18382286
    enhanced
    Level 43  
    RitterX wrote:
    Even the budget Sound Blaster Audigy SB0570 will be better than the mentioned Realtek.

    Hehe
    Don't even joke - this level is already exceeded years ago, my laptop with the Realtek 892 is crushed by this poor Creativ creation and that was a good few years ago. It will be appreciated that many CDs have even better audio codecs.

    To write that just any poverty Creativ has a good bitch at the present time is a lack of knowledge of the possibilities of competition. Sure, some mega-budget albums have the same poor codecs, but this Crativa card is good for vintage equipment.
  • #8 18385535
    RitterX
    Level 40  
    enhanced wrote:
    Don't even joke - this level is already exceeded years ago, my laptop with the Realtek 892 is crushed by this poor Creativ creation and that was a good few years ago. Not to mention that many CDs have even better audio codecs.

    To write that just any poverty Creativ has a good bitch at the present time is a lack of knowledge of the possibilities of competition. Sure, some mega-budget albums have the same poor codecs, but this Crativa card is good for vintage equipment.

    In the SB0570, the A / D and D / A converters are separate, specialized circuits and this is important: A / D WM8755 -> 102dB SNR 'A' weighted @ 48kHz; D / A WM8768 -> 103dB SNR 'A' weighted @ 48kHz. Now compare it with ALC892 -> A / D 90dB SNR (A-weighting) D / A -> 95dB SNR (A-weighting). Note that the frequency at which the measurements were taken was not given, it is so symptomatic. The scale is logarithmic and the ~ 10dB makes a big difference.
    That is why, in a modest card, it was done on separate hands, so that it would not be too modest as in an all-in-one system, from which it was supposed to stand out.
    Codecs are now a software issue and are updated quite often. There is no way to improve the hardware quality.

Topic summary

The discussion centers around the potential benefits of investing in a separate sound card compared to the integrated Realtek ALC892, particularly for users primarily utilizing headphones like the Takstar PRO82 for entertainment, music, gaming, and movies. Responses indicate that while a separate sound card can improve sound quality, the difference may not be significant for average users. Some participants suggest that budget options like the Audigy FX and RX may not provide sufficient value, recommending instead an external USB DAC or higher-quality internal cards. Comparisons highlight that older sound cards, such as the Creative SB Live 5.1 and Audigy SB0570, may outperform the ALC892 in terms of sound fidelity due to superior A/D and D/A converters. Overall, the consensus leans towards the idea that while integrated sound solutions have improved, dedicated sound cards can still offer noticeable enhancements in audio quality.
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