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[Solved] Choosing a Durable Video Intercom: Weather-Resistant, Metal Housing & Budget-Friendly Options

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  • #1 18616477
    Anonymous
    Level 1  
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  • #2 18616767
    mr_grabarz
    Level 20  
    Hello

    I just had LEELEN and to be honest, good morning, great, then the problems came
    e.g.
    - during a power failure and its reappearance, one of the relays was activated, probably 3
    (subject reported to the website, they sent a plate that after inserting eliminated the problem)
    - from time to time it did not respond to pressing the external call (the reason could not be determined and eliminated)

    apart from that:
    - workmanship really very good
    - service/support - no revelation, kudos to Mr. Daniel H. who was struggling with me with my intercom ...
    - the image quality from the camera is great, despite, for example, rain at night

    in general, problems with contactors + random blocking of the call button, or rather no reaction to pressing it, caused the video intercom to end up in a box in the attic ...
  • #3 18616794
    Ircys
    Intercoms specialist
    damian10011112 wrote:

    I am looking for a solid video intercom, but with a fairly limited budget (PLN 1000)
    Sets:
    1. LEELEN JB305 N60/No15nc with reader
    2. ZAMEL (catalogue number VP-819W, VO-811IDB, 5x VO-125PE)
    3.EURA VDP-10A3 JUPITER
    Thank you in advance.


    All of the above are classic cheap Chinese. Each of them has many disadvantages
    and one advantage - the price. You won't find anything "solid" at this price.

    Regards
  • #4 18616848
    Anonymous
    Level 1  
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    Anonymous
    Level 1  
  • #7 18622060
    gkwiatkowski
    CCTV and Stationary Alarms specialist
    damian10011112 wrote:
    I got acquainted with the COMMAX company's offer, unfortunately their configurations, in some cases, exceed 2x my budget. I need a video intercom and unfortunately it must be a cheaper product (up to PLN 1000). That's why I decide to take this risk.


    The author of this thread took a similar risk:

    https://www.elektroda.pl/rtvforum/topic3681707.html

    Added after 6 [minutes]:

    damian10011112 wrote:
    I am asking for help in choosing something that should cause the least problems in this amount.


    No one responsible will recommend you anything on this list because they can't in good conscience guarantee 99% reliability.
    You'll buy a kit, some electrician will install it, and then you'll be "rocking" with strange faults. It is safest for you to buy proven equipment and have it installed or buy a complete assembly service together with the equipment.

    Added after 8 [minutes]:

    damian10011112 wrote:
    I'm counting on your help (it may be recommending something not on the list) and choosing something that will be a kind of "least evil".


    I will risk any claims on your part and just write that if I were to buy something cheap myself, I would try Genway. Several copies of the video intercom known to me have been working without any problems for several years.
    I emphasize: I do not recommend, I only describe what I would buy as cheap.

    I advise against ABAXO. I was very disappointed in him.

    Added after 3 [minutes]:

    damian10011112 wrote:
    After getting acquainted with the offer, I have several types. Please advise in choosing, or provide another proven set. I am looking for something that will last much longer, but with a fairly limited budget (1000 PLN)


    See Polish-Polish LASKOMEX. They used to have a video intercom kit for single-family homes. You may only need to stretch your budget a bit.
    Or Polish ACO.
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  • #8 18622219
    Ircys
    Intercoms specialist
    damian10011112 wrote:
    I got acquainted with the COMMAX company's offer, unfortunately their configurations, in some cases, exceed 2x my budget. I need a video intercom and unfortunately it must be a cheaper product (up to PLN 1000). That's why I decide to take this risk. I am asking for help in choosing something that should cause the least problems in this amount. The LEELEN JB305 N60/No15nc with the reader, which is my favorite, seems to be the most convenient to install and the most reliable. The second option I am considering is ZAMEL (catalogue number VP-819W, VO-811IDB, 5x VO-125PE) - it has IP66 (the whole frame of the doorphone is made of alloy, while its front is made of acrylic glass). Unfortunately, I have no information about ZAMEL about the longer use. I also have two other suggestions. I'm counting on your help (it may be recommending something not on the list) and choosing something that will be a kind of "least evil". Thank you and best regards!
    List:
    1. LEELEN JB305 N60/No15nc with reader
    2. ZAMEL (catalogue number VP-819W, VO-811IDB, 5x VO-125PE)
    3. ORNO VID-VP-1028
    4.EURA VDP-10A3 JUPITER


    Unfortunately, but at this price, we can recommend a good, solid, proven .... intercom, not a video intercom. A video intercom at this price is, as I wrote earlier, a classic Chinese, which are, for example, flooded DIY stores. They differ in appearance, "trinkets", stickers, but no one will take responsibility for this (often even distributors dodge such responsibility).
    If you want to take a risk (yes, I know there were many such daredevils), then take the one that is your favorite, but then do not write on the forum (we have sooooo many of them here :) !!) that there are some problems with it.

    Regards
  • #9 18622377
    clouddancer
    Level 16  
    Well, you can help narrow down your choices. If anything, it's not Eura or Orno - these two companies change series and sets so often that it's hard to catch up. What the Chinese gave, they have. This makes it less likely that you will get any replacement parts in a few years.

    We sell Leelen and Zamel video intercoms, it is a little more stable here. We are just getting a little more Leelen and it's for a regular recipient. There is no madness, but there are also no signals that it was somehow tragic with these sets.
  • #10 18622427
    Ircys
    Intercoms specialist
    clouddancer wrote:
    Well, you can help narrow down your choices. If anything, it's not Eura or Orno - these two companies change series and sets so often that it's hard to catch up. What the Chinese gave, they have. This makes it less likely that you will get any replacement parts in a few years.

    We sell Leelen and Zamel video intercoms, it is a little more stable here. We are just getting a little more Leelen and it's for a regular recipient. There is no madness, but there are also no signals that it was somehow tragic with these sets.


    I will say on the other hand - an installation company.
    Leelena WE DISASSEMBLE in quite large quantities, there is quite a lot of it in our region - a thriving distributor :) They work as they want and when they want, e.g. they hang up so that they do not ring at all and then turning the power off and on helps. Half the trouble when it's a house and such a "suspended" video intercom will reflect the postman, courier, etc. It's worse when it's a hospital (we had such a disassembly last week JB304No15nc + JB304N60), a monitor in the emergency room with a cassette from the side of the ambulance driveway (not necessarily on the signal) and a waiting team of rescuers with a patient. At some point, this crap has to stop.

    Regards
  • #11 18635149
    Anonymous
    Level 1  
  • #12 19720035
    pawka_pk
    Level 22  
    So, what is this "good" videophone that will last me 15 years outside, at least not to return to the topic. It is so?
  • #13 19720763
    Ircys
    Intercoms specialist
    pawka_pk wrote:
    So, what is this "good" videophone that will last me 15 years outside, at least not to return to the topic. It is so?


    Heh... video intercom for 15 years... rather no one dares to propose something like that.
    We installed black and white CRT monitors 15 years ago :) In Commax monitors, the kinescope was mounted vertically, and the display was a mirror that showed the image, and therefore the monitor was not so thick. Urmet, for example, gave kinescopes horizontally, which made the monitor look like it was in back pregnancy :) For its assembly there were special boxes hammered deep into the wall.
    My tip: these monitors still work today.
    Think back to what mobile phone you had 15 years ago and if you still use it...
  • #14 19720911
    pawka_pk
    Level 22  
    It's a fact. I can't remember if any device in my house lasted 15 years. But back to the topic, what is good equipment that would at least be trouble-free?. Unfortunately, I have a problem that in the place where the monitor is to be, I only pulled the computer twisted pair and the power supply. I don't know much about intercoms, but as I noticed, some models are connected using a switch and I see some light here. As if there was an I/O module that I would connect to a switch where there is already an indoor and outdoor unit.
  • #15 19720927
    suworow
    VIP Meritorious for electroda.pl
    pawka_pk wrote:
    Unfortunately, I have a problem that in the place where the monitor is to be, I only pulled the computer twisted pair and the power supply.

    You did it right.
    And you will say more. This twisted pair is directly from the gate or goes through some intermediate point. Power from the nearest junction box or, for example, directly from some place.? What wires to the gate? How's the approximate distance?

    Regarding the recommended relatively reliable video intercoms, it is enough to read a few topics, following in the footsteps of, for example, the statement of my friend Ircys :)
  • #16 19720955
    pawka_pk
    Level 22  
    5 years ago, on the floor where the monitor is to be, I released a shielded twisted pair and the power supply is next to it. The cable goes down to the basement. The videophone is to open the gate, gate and support at least two cameras. I have arots in the ground for the wicket and gate drive, so what kind of wires will be needed. When he searches the Internet for a videophone, usually switching on the solenoid valve or the signal to open the gate is one of the following. internal wires, so twisted pair would not be enough here and I was afraid that I would have to do another renovation.
  • #17 19720981
    suworow
    VIP Meritorious for electroda.pl
    The control of the gate in most of the better intercoms is on the side of the camera (gate panel). Gate control is handled differently. Either way, any analog 4-wire set or 2-wire system like vidos duo would handle it. If you are thinking about bringing the signal from the cameras to the monitor, it will probably be best to go for an IP system, such as the one often discussed on the Hikvision forum. The system has been on the market for several years and works rather well. Will it last 15 years? ;)
  • #18 19721016
    pawka_pk
    Level 22  
    In eltrox, they offered me something like this:
    DAHUA VTO2111D-P-S2 door station
    DAHUA VTH5221DW-S2 video intercom WIFI monitor
    SWITCH POE 4+2 PULSAR S64
    WIFI IP CAMERA DAHUA IPC-HFW1235S-W-0280B-S2 + power adapter
    IP CAMERA DAHUA IPC-HFW1230S-0280B-S5

    Unfortunately, a twisted pair is not enough here. I've been searching Hikvision since the morning, unfortunately I come across external elements from the internal unit. Damn, it would be so convenient if there was an I/O module that would be plugged into one switch with a videophone and cameras and this module would communicate with the videophone, embracing the I/O commands. So many cables in one. internal. I think I came across a gate module in Orno, it has a relay output for opening the gate that communicates with the videophone, always something.

    Added after 10 [minutes]:

    This set however has gate management from the outdoor unit
  • #19 19721851
    suworow
    VIP Meritorious for electroda.pl
    Which?
    I do not know how the control of the second entrance in dahua is solved (I can only suspect that through the access control expander) but HIK simply has two relay outputs in the external cassette. So I don't understand why a colleague would be missing cables :)

    ps.
    pawka_pk wrote:
    I think I came across Orno,

    What do you have to type in the browser to find ORNO when looking for reliable equipment? ;)
  • #20 19722096
    adwlodar
    Level 28  
    suworow wrote:
    What do you have to type in the browser to find ORNO when looking for reliable equipment?

    It was good 😂

    👍
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  • #21 19723461
    pawka_pk
    Level 22  
    Not all Hikvision videophones have external cassette control. And I still do not know what company makes good equipment, there is so much of it. Dahua, Hikvisione, Vidos. Am I going in the right direction? :-)
  • #22 19723974
    suworow
    VIP Meritorious for electroda.pl
    pawka_pk wrote:
    Not all Hikvision videophones have external cassette control.

    Do they have to have them all? My friend, the one he has is enough :)

Topic summary

The discussion revolves around selecting a durable video intercom suitable for outdoor installation, emphasizing weather resistance, metal housing, and budget constraints (up to 1000 PLN). Users share experiences with various models, particularly the LEELEN JB305 and ZAMEL products, highlighting issues such as reliability, service support, and installation challenges. Concerns about the longevity and performance of cheaper, often Chinese-made intercoms are prevalent, with suggestions to consider brands like Genway and LASKOMEX for more reliable options. The conversation also touches on the importance of features like RFID support, ease of installation, and the ability to control gate access without additional power supplies.
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