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[Solved] Zgemma H9 twin decoder - Watching the second channel while recording

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  • #1 18856361
    mooser
    Level 12  
    I can't cope with the decoder settings to record and watch another channel at the same time.
    When switching channels and simultaneously recording another, the message tuning failed and a black screen appear
    1) Are the settings of the head one correct? Unfortunately, I cannot indicate my converter from the menu because this brand is not on the list. If wrong, what to correct?
    2) Should the settings of the head No. 2 be the same as the first one?
    3) Should the antenna cable be connected to any of these connectors with one wire or should it be split into two, and if one, which connector should be screwed into?

    Zgemma h9twin
    Zgemma H9 twin decoder - Watching the second channel while recording

    Zgemma h9twin
    Zgemma H9 twin decoder - Watching the second channel while recording

    Unicable Opticum converter
    Zgemma H9 twin decoder - Watching the second channel while recording
    Technical parameters:
    Lower input band: 10.7-11.7 GHz
    Lower oscillator: 9.75 GHz
    Upper input band; 11.7-12.75 GHz
    Upper oscillator: 10.6 GHz
    IF channel 1 (SCR) output: 1210 MHz
    IF channel 2 output (SCR): 1420 MHz
    IF channel 3 (SCR) output: 1680MHz
    IF channel 4 (SCR) output: 2040 MHz
    Strengthening: area 57 dB
    Number of full band outputs: 2
    Noise figure: 0.1 dB
    Current consumption: 300 mA
    Chuck diameter: 40 mm
    Working temperature: - 40?C + 65?C

    Please support me
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  • #2 18856429
    pikarel
    Level 39  
    From the gold converter output, connect the antenna cable to the splitter, from it with short sections to the decoder, to inputs A and B.
    If you assigned channel 1-1210 MHz in head A, then in head B assign channel 2 - 1420 MHz.

    Restart the decoder - test.
  • #3 18857563
    mooser
    Level 12  
    pikarel wrote:
    From the gold converter output, connect the antenna cable to the splitter, from it with short sections to the decoder, to inputs A and B.
    If you assigned channel 1-1210 MHz in head A, then in head B assign channel 2 - 1420 MHz.

    Restart the decoder - test.


    I did as you wrote. I bought a splitter, but still the same. In the settings, I turned off the head A, which worked and set the head b according to the same parameters. The signal meter shows 0.
    Any ideas what to do next?
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  • #4 18857733
    pikarel
    Level 39  
    So try in head A:
    -for LNB 1 assign Channel 1
    -for LNB 2 assign Channel 2
  • #5 18857927
    mooser
    Level 12  
    Zgemma H9 twin decoder - Watching the second channel while recording

    Yes, I have it but it still doesn't work
    On the left - head settings A, on the right - B.
    No signal from her at all, do you have any more ideas?
  • #6 18857952
    Anonymous
    Level 1  
  • #7 18857960
    mooser
    Level 12  
    _cheetah_ wrote:
    Turn on DiseqC.

    I turned on for both heads.
    1.0

    it did not help, it still does not work. Maybe replace the cables in the inputs to the decoder?
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  • #8 18858154
    pikarel
    Level 39  
    mooser wrote:

    Yes, I have done it, but it still does not work
    On the left, the settings of the A head, on the right, B.
    No signal from it at all, do you have any more ideas?

    You are not like that; you showed the head A and B.
    Set ONLY in A:
    - in LNB 1 Channel 1 and in LNB2 Channel 2

    These are S2X heads (several LNBs in one head)
  • #9 19356064
    drzazga77
    Level 11  
    Hello.
    I have the same problem. I set it up exactly like that

    Set ONLY in A:
    - in LNB 1 Channel 1 and in LNB2 Channel 2

    and still cannot watch other channels while recording (with some exceptions of course)
    Do you want to change something in LNB Priority?
    How exactly should the settings look like, because I hope this decoder offers a unicable function.
    Please help.
  • #10 19356163
    RobeMek
    Level 27  
    You can set the channels yourself, as the converter can have different ones.

    What converter, what SCR settings, I don't care which frequency.

    Besides, how the cable connected to the tuner and how you set the heads, because you do not know what to mean, I set it the same. : /
  • #11 19356286
    drzazga77
    Level 11  
    I have the cable connected to tuner B. - maybe it's a bug? Thought they were identical.

    Converter Unicable Inverto SCR + Twin, IDLB-QUDL42-UNI2L, 4 channel

    Lower oscillator: 9.75GHz
    Upper band - input: 11.7-12.75 GHz
    Upper oscillator: 10.6Hz
    Temperature drift: +/- 2.5MHz
    Phase noise: -90dBc / Hz max
    Gain: 55dB min
    Variation of the gain characteristic: +/- 0.75 dB / 27MHz
    Separation between polarities: min 40dB
    VSWR: 2.5: 1
    Output Impedance: 75Ohm
    output channel width: 60MHz
    IF channel 1 output (SCR0): 1210MHz
    IF channel 2 output (SCR0): 1420MHz
    IF channel 3 output (SCR0): 1680MHz
    IF channel 4 output (SCR0): 2040MHz
    Zgemma H9 twin decoder - Watching the second channel while recording Zgemma H9 twin decoder - Watching the second channel while recording Zgemma H9 twin decoder - Watching the second channel while recording
  • #12 19356307
    RobeMek
    Level 27  
    No wonder that it does not work, you have to have every head connected, i.e. you need a splitter or connect two cables to the separating splitter.

    Buy a SAT splitter with power pass.

    I don't know why you would set 3 SCRs senselessly when you have ONLY 2 heads.


    FOR THE TEST:
    Connect the tuner A, B and turn off the tuner, you will turn it on when you connect the cable from the splitter to this head.
    You always have 1 LNB on each head.

    I hope you have definitely connected the cable to the gold plug? :)
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  • #13 19356323
    drzazga77
    Level 11  
    Yes. Certainly a golden plug.
  • #14 19356336
    RobeMek
    Level 27  
    Then connect A, this is the first entrance from the disk side.
  • #15 19356339
    drzazga77
    Level 11  
    I used to have Polsat's Evobox and it worked as it should on this converter. I thought it would work.
    I suggested the entry above:
    pikarel wrote:
    You are not like that; you showed the head A and B.
    Set ONLY in A:
    - in LNB 1 Channel 1 and in LNB2 Channel 2

    These are S2X heads (several LNBs in one head)

    I'm going to twist the cable.
    another question? I have one more cable routed to this converter. Will it work if I connect it to the tuner B and to the non-gold plug in the converter?
  • #16 19356358
    RobeMek
    Level 27  
    This is bullshit, the S2X is a normal head, the guy probably doesn't know what the standard is. You will never use this on a Hot Bird because there is simply no transmitting transponder on the S2X.

    There are multi-heads FBC tuners, 8 heads, but this is not Zgemma's price class.


    It will, only B set it normally because it's a normal converter.
    At least you will check and learn how to set up Unicable, it will be useful when you hook up the second tuner.
  • #18 19356380
    RobeMek
    Level 27  
    You can buy it without any problem. :)

    Then just disconnect the second cable, connect the splitter and separate it into two heads. B set the same as A only SCR different.

    Does at least unicable or classic legacy work now?

    Usually it is best to use splitters with power pass as you do not use DVB-T on the same cable.
    Do not follow the advice of others, it is simply that such an installation is better secured thanks to such splitters and always recommended.
  • #19 19356386
    drzazga77
    Level 11  
    Everything works. Thanks again.
  • #20 19366670
    mooser
    Level 12  
    Everything works. Thanks again.

Topic summary

✨ The discussion revolves around configuring the Zgemma H9 twin decoder to enable simultaneous channel recording and viewing. Users faced issues with settings, particularly with the LNB configuration and signal reception. Key suggestions included connecting the antenna cable to a splitter, ensuring correct channel assignments for LNBs, and enabling DiseqC settings. Users also discussed the necessity of using a splitter with power pass and the importance of connecting both LNBs properly. After troubleshooting various configurations, one user confirmed successful operation after following the recommended setup.

FAQ

TL;DR: To watch one channel while recording another on a Zgemma H9 Twin, set distinct SCRs (1210 and 1420 MHz) and "connect the antenna cable to the splitter... to inputs A and B." [Elektroda, pikarel, post #18856429]

Why it matters: This FAQ helps Zgemma H9 Twin owners fix “tuning failed” and black screen issues when using Unicable/SCR LNBs to record and watch simultaneously.

Quick Facts

How do I wire the H9 Twin with a Unicable LNB to watch and record simultaneously?

Connect the LNB’s gold Unicable output to a SAT splitter. From the splitter, run short coax leads to tuner A and tuner B. In settings, assign UB1=1210 MHz to tuner A and UB2=1420 MHz to tuner B. Restart the decoder and test channel changes during a recording. [Elektroda, pikarel, post #18856429]

Which LNB port should I use—the gold one or the other?

Use the gold connector on the LNB. That is the Unicable/SCR output intended for split feeding of multiple tuners. Connecting elsewhere often results in no signal or tuning errors. “I hope you have definitely connected the cable to the gold plug?” [Elektroda, RobeMek, post #19356307]

Do I need a splitter, and what kind should I buy?

Yes. Use a SAT splitter designed for Unicable and place it between the LNB’s gold port and your two tuners. “Usually it is best to use splitters with power pass,” which are commonly recommended for reliable Unicable power and signaling. [Elektroda, RobeMek, post #19356380]

What SCR user‑band frequencies should I assign to the tuners?

Assign unique user bands so tuners don’t collide. A proven pair is UB1=1210 MHz for tuner A and UB2=1420 MHz for tuner B. After saving, restart the receiver to lock in the settings, then test. [Elektroda, pikarel, post #18856429]

What are the four SCR options on my Inverto IDLB‑QUDL42‑UNI2L LNB?

That LNB exposes four user bands: 1210, 1420, 1680, and 2040 MHz. Pick any two distinct bands for your two tuners. This gives flexibility if one band is already in use. [Elektroda, drzazga77, post #19356286]

Can I use the LNB’s second (legacy) port to feed tuner B instead of a splitter?

Yes. Connect tuner B to the non‑gold legacy output and set tuner B as a standard (legacy) input. This is useful if you already have a second cable routed. [Elektroda, RobeMek, post #19356358]

Why do I see “tuning failed” or a black screen when recording?

It usually happens when only one tuner is cabled or both tuners share the same SCR band. Fix by splitting the Unicable output and assigning unique user bands to A and B. [Elektroda, RobeMek, post #19356307]

My tuner B shows 0% signal—what should I check first?

Check that tuner A is connected and working, then add the splitter feed to tuner B. Confirm tight F‑connectors, correct SCR for B, and reboot the box. Start with input A as your reference. [Elektroda, RobeMek, post #19356336]

Should I enable DiSEqC 1.0 for this single‑sat Unicable setup?

No. Enabling DiSEqC 1.0 did not fix the issue in this scenario. Leave DiSEqC off unless you actually use a multi‑LNB switch. [Elektroda, mooser, post #18857960]

Do both tuners need unique SCR IDs?

Yes. Keep both tuners in Unicable mode, but assign different user bands. “B set the same as A only SCR different.” This prevents collisions during recording and zapping. [Elektroda, RobeMek, post #19356380]

Step‑by‑step: How do I configure the box?

  1. From the LNB’s gold port, go into a SAT splitter, then to tuner A and tuner B.
  2. Set tuner A to UB1=1210 MHz and tuner B to UB2=1420 MHz.
  3. Save, reboot the decoder, and test channel changes while recording. [Elektroda, pikarel, post #18856429]

Will Zgemma H9 Twin actually work with Unicable LNBs like Opticum or Inverto?

Yes. Users confirmed success after wiring the gold port to a splitter and assigning unique SCRs. Final feedback reported, “Everything works.” [Elektroda, drzazga77, post #19356386]

Which splitter models are acceptable?

An Inverto Unicable 1‑to‑2 splitter is fine. “You can buy it without any problem.” Choose a power‑pass type for robust LNB power and command signaling. [Elektroda, RobeMek, post #19356380]

Does S2X matter for solving this problem?

No. S2X support is unrelated to this issue. The fix is correct wiring and unique SCR assignment for both tuners, not modulation features. [Elektroda, RobeMek, post #19356358]

How do I verify the setup works after changes?

Start a recording on one channel, then change to another channel on the second tuner. If it fails, recheck SCR IDs and splitter wiring, then reboot and retest. “Restart the decoder – test.” [Elektroda, pikarel, post #18856429]
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