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Zgemma H9s vs H9 Twin: Advice on Choosing the Right Decoder for CCcam Newcomers

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Which Zgemma model should I choose for CCcam use as a beginner, and will I be able to handle it?

Choose the H9s if you do not need two tuners; it is fast and should be enough for CCcam, skins, EPG and picons, while the Twin is the better choice if you want dual-head features like watching one channel while recording another, PiP, or streaming a different program. [#19532696] [#19604367] CCcam is not a problem on either model, and both can run common Enigma2 images such as OpenATV, Hyperion and OpenPLi. [#19236975] The main weakness of the H9s is its small memory, so multiboot and extra plugins are limited; if memory matters, forum users suggest the H9s SE or H9.2H SE with 16 GB. [#19236981] [#19603294] One reply also notes that the H9 Twin is becoming hard to buy new. [#19603294]
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  • #1 19236702
    Nemtor
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    Hello.
    I want to buy a Zgemma decoder, but I don't know which model to choose.
    Can anyone advise me which model should I choose? I will add that in terms of cccam (because that is what this decoder will be used for) I am a bit new.
    The only experience I had with cccam was a few years ago on a Freguson ariva 150 combo decoder.
    Can I handle the Zgemma tuner?
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  • Feature comparison of Zgemma and Ferguson decoders

    #2 19236975
    Przem188
    EDA specialist
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    It all depends on what your requirements are.
    I have both of these decoders plus Ferguson TTwin and Zgemma H2S.

    Two heads? Get a twin. Bonus - pip, record one show and watch another.

    Many ways to play with the system?
    They are all well programmed. Many different systems to play with: OpenAtv, Hyperion, Open pli and many more. Here's the advantage on Ferguson - he also has Android.

    Ccam - no problem at all.

    Speed - they have powerful processors. Zgemma TTwin and Ferguson - 4 core ARMs (Hisilicons - as in budget smartphones), Zgemma H9 - Mips - is a different architecture, but equally fast.

    The only thing I don't like is:

    Appearance - at least no normal 7-segment display in some Zgemmas - but the standby clock or channel number is a good thing.

    Limitations: Zgemma are poorly equipped compared to, for example, Ferguson TTwin (the same price for Zgemma TTwin and Ferguson TTwin). They do not have Bluetooth, USB 3.0 or a small amount of these USBs. No audio optics or even a 3.5mm jack to output audio. LAN port cut to 100mbit.
  • Question about whether 256 MB flash is enough

    #3 19236976
    Nemtor
    Level 3  
    Posts: 12
    Thank you for your comprehensive answer.
    As for the LAN that cut to 100mbs is not a problem, because the TV needs a minimum connection, moreover, I will be using wifi (mesh system)

    One more question about Flash memory .... Twin has 8gb and h9s only 256mb, amazing difference, noticeable?

    By the way, my requirements are not high, mainly I have to cccam revel, some skin, epg, picones .... And that's it, of course, over time I will dig deeper into the functions, but at the beginning it's as I wrote
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  • OpenATV preferred over multi-system firmware

    #4 19236981
    Przem188
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    Yes, there is little memory in H9s - there is no multi-system, for example - you can have 3 different Enigma systems and choose which one you want to use. But for me, it's an unnecessary story. Open ATV is, in my opinion, the best and if I refine it with functions and plugins, what's the point of doing the same on other systems, since the possibilities are the same.

    I'm waiting for Android to be introduced on Zgemmy TTwin. Because maybe such an android would be better? Oscam is on it, there are programs from the Google Play store, more possibilities only if they make good software for the SAT module. Because I haven't met a nice, feature-rich Sat program yet. In Ferguson, for example, there is no specific edition of the channel list.
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  • H9s recommended unless dual tuners are needed

    #5 19532696
    TomekKozlowski
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    Well, simple, both are good, if you don't need two heads, then take the H9s, it's fast because I use both myself.

    On the twin I have a multiboot with 4 systems and I use two heads, that's why I use it too, but if I didn't need both heads, I'd be H9s in your place and if you need to expand the memory via the sd card or take the h9se model with 16 GB of memory and the problem is over in the future with memory, both decoders meet all your expectations, they have support and everything will run fast and without stutters :( p
  • Ferguson ATV TT 4K streaming and recording question

    #6 19602907
    cyfu
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    Sorry that I'm hooking up to the topic, I have a question for @Przem188 I'm also looking for a tuner and I have a dilemma about zgemmy h9 twin and Ferguson Atv tt 4k. I mean recording or stemming to another TV or other device. Is it possible to set it well on ferguson so that you can stream a different program than the tuner is currently playing. Because I read that it is weak and can not be set.
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  • #7 19603294
    tomaszlonski
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    H9s is old and has little memory, a better option is h9s se or terrestrial h9.2h se .
    H9 twin will hardly buy anymore.
  • #8 19603442
    dlech
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    Rate: 4
    I would recommend something from the VU+ family
  • Zgemma Twin supports recording and streaming simultaneously

    #9 19604367
    Przem188
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    cyfu wrote:
    Sorry that I'm hooking up to the topic, I have a question for @Przem188 I'm also looking for a tuner and I have a dilemma about zgemmy h9 twin and Ferguson Atv tt 4k. I mean recording or stemming to another TV or other device. Is it possible to set it well on ferguson so that you can stream a different program than the tuner is currently playing. Because I read that it is weak and can not be set.


    Indeed, Ferguson has trouble handling another program while one is already running. PIP from a different transponder than the one currently playing does not work. I don't know what the problem is - whether Open ATV or equipment.
    In this respect, Zgemma Twin works perfectly. You can watch one program and record another, stream or watch in PiP. Also, despite Ferdek's advantages, if you want these functions - choose Zgemma.
  • Softcam issue on Ferguson affects second channel decoding

    #10 19604845
    tomaszlonski
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    There is a problem with the softcam on Ferguson and the decoding of the second channel does not work, the same was with some versions of nBox.

    As I wrote, H9 Twin can hardly be bought anywhere except for stimulants or on Ali. A similar model with the option of mounting a disk, depending on the version, the disk is inside or the latest inserted as in H9 Twin is just a little better Zgemma H7s with DVB-T2.

    Besides, there are cheaper 2-head tuners but practically all without disks, Axis, Ustym, uClan and Octagon. The choice is large, just choose the right one.
  • #11 19665878
    konik197
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    And how does the transition from e.g. Netflix or CDA on Android to Open ATV look like on Ferguson? Do you need to reset the tuner or does it switch quickly?

Topic summary

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The discussion revolves around choosing between the Zgemma H9s and H9 Twin decoders for CCcam use, particularly for newcomers. Key considerations include the need for dual tuners, memory capacity, and system flexibility. The H9 Twin is recommended for users requiring two tuners, allowing for features like Picture-in-Picture (PIP) and simultaneous recording. The H9s, while faster, has limited memory (256MB) compared to the H9 Twin's 8GB, which may restrict multi-system capabilities. Users express satisfaction with the performance of both models, but highlight the H9 Twin's superior functionality for streaming and recording. Alternatives like the Ferguson TTwin and VU+ family are also mentioned, with some users noting issues with the Ferguson's ability to handle multiple streams effectively. Overall, the Zgemma H9 Twin is favored for its versatility and support for CCcam.
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