Cyfrowy Polsat Channels Lost During Rain: Wet Cable, LNB, or Decoder Issue?

Hello, I have a similar problem as the author of this thread, except that there is no channel for me and it only happens when it rains harder. It looks like a cable has got wet, but the cable insulation is not helping, the connections seem ok and the signal strength at the time of this message is 0%. The question is what is going on here? Wrong LNB in the antenna? The decoder has been replaced with a new one, and the converter also has the problem.

What is the signal quality and strength while the reception is okay?

More or less like this
Depending on the channel that is turned on, it varies around 1-2% in minus or plus.

Weak signal. Small or misaligned antenna.

So it is not the fault of the sender (digital polysat) or the converter? (The antenna is original from Cyfrowy Polsat's set) I am surprised that in nice weather the reception is perfect and in the moment of e.g. rain, even when it starts to rain, the signal strength reaches 0 and this message appears about checking the antenna installation and LNB input signal. As for the antenna setting, this problem did not occur under any conditions 3 years ago on the old converter. After about 2 years, these breaks began, hence the replacement of the converter and decoder.

Master_one wrote:

So it is not the fault of the sender (digital polysat) or the converter? (The antenna is original from Cyfrowy Polsat's set) I am surprised that in nice weather the reception is perfect and in the moment of e.g. rain, even when it starts to rain, the signal strength reaches 0 and this message pops up about checking the antenna installation and LNB input signal ...

These are the original Polish satin antennas. Good for good weather. They are just too small for bad weather. Unfortunately, everyone who has Polish antennas from the set has the same problem.
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There is practically no indirect reception in digital reception. It's perfect or it's not there. There is a small margin between ideal and no reception of the so-called caging.

Ok, that is, it is the fault of the antenna used and may be related to the fact that, for example, several new buildings have been created that interfere with the reception in unfavorable conditions? If so, the question is what next? Buy a bigger Polish antenna or another big plate?

If the buildings had an impact, there would be no reception. Bigger antenna, good converter, precise alignment.

If not buildings, what affects the deterioration of signal reception? The antenna has not been changed, and until 3 years ago there were no problems with reception.

@Master_one maybe a few words about the place of the installed antenna ...

The antenna is installed on the south wall of the building, 4th floor next to the balcony. The canopy is facing southwest.

What plate size, what converter?

Master_one wrote:

what affects the deterioration of signal reception? The antenna has not been changed, and until 3 years ago there were no problems with reception.

UV can disintegrate the converter lid. The converter flooded with water first works poorly and then not at all.

You have two options to choose from:
1. (Recommended) Change to a larger "plate" at least 90 cm and preferably 120-130 cm. None Polish only from a proven manufacturer. Problems will only arise during heavy, stormy rain or dense snow. This will not jump over any more.
2. Watch TV only on cloudless, sunny days, and on cloudy and rainy days, go for a walk or take care of other things than watching TV.
I chose the first option and was satisfied. The lack of SAT reception (130 cm dish) was only when a heavy cloud with pouring rain came. Currently, in the age of fast internet, I have given up on SAT TV, although I have not dismantled the antenna and installation. Sometimes it is useful for watching PPV broadcasts with many people when the set-top box owner has a smaller antenna and the weather is uncertain.

DiZMar I am inclined to the last solution, but as long as the contract lasts I have to use this misfortune and a long time to the end when it comes to the converter, go to https://m.euro.com.pl/akyszne-do-tunerow-sate...-JymjlgknxX3XYQaPcb4MYQaPcb4MYQaPcb4MHaQaPcb4

Something of this type of antenna, I bet that the 70 cm Polish original is at least 6-8 years old.

Master_one wrote:

DiZMar I am inclined to the last solution, but as long as the contract lasts I have to use this misfortune and a long time to the end ...
Something of this type of antenna, I bet that the 70 cm Polish original is at least 6-8 years old.

In my spare time, I rather walk on clear days and watch TV on rainy days. You the opposite. It's a matter of taste. Tastes are not discussed.
The contract does not prohibit the replacement of the canopy and the cost is not shocking. Time does not substantially affect the antenna reception quality. Unless she was distorted at the time. Hanging Polish antennas are very rare in my area. Even if they are after a few months, they are replaced with larger (90-130 cm) solid ones. In the south of the country there are some Polish ones, but in the eastern part (my location) you will hardly experience it. Exchanged.

I am mainly interested in pickup on rainy days. When it is nice TV is unnecessary xd clear that the contract does not prohibit the replacement of the canopy but it is a pity to invest some more money, knowing that it will be unnecessary for such a long time.

Master_one wrote:

I am mainly interested in pickup on rainy days. When it is nice TV is unnecessary xd clear that the contract does not prohibit the replacement of the canopy but it is a pity to invest some more money, knowing that it will be unnecessary for such a long time.

I am too. I don't know why you tend to do the opposite. On rainy days you have no reception and you are not going to change it in an effective way.
Even though I had mastered the issue of reception for many years, a few years ago I gave up pay TV (I had n and when they changed to nc + along with the increased fee and taking part of the channels) I resigned before the end of the contract, using the mentioned removal of some channels that I had not even really watched. It was early spring and I had a plan to get some pay-TV in the fall. The lack of pay TV SAT made it necessary to find ways of watching without pay TV (mainly sports broadcasts). In the fall, it turned out that I watch all the programs that interest me via the Internet and the SAT would require the purchase of several paid platforms. I stayed on the Internet, where it happens that I watch even several broadcasts at the same time, eg I play one on TV and the rest on a split screen of a laptop or smartphone.

Then make up your mind, long or not. Nothing will change without investment.

Andpol 33 exactly that is still about 1.5 years so long and not long

Master_one wrote:

Andpol 33 exactly that is still about 1.5 years so long and not long

If, after 1.5 years, you are going to completely abandon TV SAT, spending 100-150 or even over PLN 200 on a new antenna does not necessarily make sense. If you only want to change the platform, a decent antenna will be useful in the future.

DiZMar is planning to switch to cable TV without satellite antennas, because I have no patience with them, and finally cable is available
For now, I have to do something, because there are still two winters ahead of me and I need to organize myself somehow so as not to lose my nerves.

andpol 33 wrote:

If buildings had an impact there would be no reception. Bigger antenna, good converter, precise positioning.

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And they don't have it? And maybe it obscures part of the signal for him?

LeDy wrote:

.... Or maybe it is obstructing part of the signal for him?

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A very special case for a building to obstruct part of the dish. Doubtful this case but possible.

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This is a picture of the signal strength from 10 minutes ago during the rain. Currently the rain is the same and the signal strength is 0 and what is the point? :/

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This is a picture of the signal from a minute ago.

LeDy wrote:

andpol 33 wrote:

If buildings had an impact there would be no reception. Bigger antenna, good LNB, precise positioning.

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And they don't have it? Or maybe it obscures part of the signal for him?

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You're the kind of person who likes to get pinned down? If they put a building in front of his antenna he wouldn't have 50% on the polsat antenna. And on top of that a 4th floor. Well unless he has a polsat 80 which supposedly doesn't exist.

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Master_one wrote:

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This is a picture of the signal strength from 10 minutes ago during the rain. Currently the rain the same and the signal strength 0 and what is the point? :/

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This is a picture of the signal from a minute ago.

9 dB is the tripping threshold of the decoder. Just a drop more and the signal is gone. Imagine that just now at my place on a 115 cm antenna there was no reception at all. .

_cheetah_ wrote:

It seemed to you that the rain was the same. But, it is not the rain itself that decides here, but also, and often mainly, the clouds. And once the reception will be and once it won't, even though it roughly looks the same...

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I'm guessing that it's the clouds that are the issue, because already before the rain the signal disappears and then appears and depending on the intensity of the storm (cloud movement) it comes back or not. On the polsat helpline they say that the antenna needs to be tuned and that the threshold for reception of their signal is 55% signal quality :/ and at my place it is 49-51 and the antenna is permanently screwed to the wall :/ so what? I have to unscrew it and adjust it by feel until I get a better range? Doesn't the fitter have some more advanced equipment to set up the antenna precisely?