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Selecting Correct Cable Type & Cross-Section for 12kW Ground Source Heat Pump Installation

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  • #1 18926439
    gieu
    Level 6  
    Ladies and Gentlemen,
    soon I will have a 12 kW ground source heat pump installed. According to the contract with the installer, the power supply is on my side.
    I want to do the routing of the cable from the main switchgear to the heat pump switchgear in the boiler room myself, and the connection of the cables in both switchboards and the installation of protections will be done by an electrician during the 5-year inspection of the installation, which I have to commission soon.

    Please tell me what cables (cross-section and type / marking) I should buy (I will run in plastic trays):
    - main 3f between the main switchgear in the house and the switchgear in the boiler room (about 10 meters; I would prefer a cord over a wire if allowed)
    - connection (about 2 meters) of the PC compressor to the switchgear in the boiler room (compressor: 3 ~ / PE / 400V / 50Hz; C10 protection; starting current 26A; max power and current consumption: 9.44 A? 4.80kW)
    - connection (about 2 meters) of the PC heater to the switchgear in the boiler room (3 ~ N / PE / 400V / 50Hz ? B16; 9kW)
    - connection (about 2 meters) of the PC controller to the switchgear in the boiler room (1 ~ N / PE / 230V / 50Hz ? B10)
    Thank you in advance.
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  • #2 18926444
    elpapiotr
    Electrician specialist
    Weird. The installer did not suggest, at least a little?
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  • #3 18926479
    gieu
    Level 6  
    elpapiotr wrote:
    Weird. The installer did not suggest, at least a little?


    He prompted, but hesitantly (claims that he does not deal with electrics) and I have doubts about what he said (e.g. the compressor protection was given by C20, although the manual says C10 ...; the compressor cable suggested 5x4 and the heater 5x2.5), so I'm asking here again. I do not know what the main cable should be between the switchboards (5x4 or maybe 5x6 is enough if the heater and compressor can work simultaneously). And can I freely choose between YDY, OMY and OWA?
    Asking for a hint.
  • #4 18927216
    KonradGatek
    Level 29  
    And in the event of a breakdown and warranty or post-warranty repair, you will be crammed between the vodka and the snack, that is, between the electrician and the cooler. Does your connection capacity allow for such devices, voltage drops checked?
    Regards.
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  • #5 18929228
    gieu
    Level 6  
    KonradGatek wrote:
    And in the event of a breakdown and warranty or post-warranty repair, you will be crammed between the vodka and the snack, that is, between the electrician and the cooler. Does your connection capacity allow for such devices, voltage drops checked?
    Regards.


    I will not, because the cable will meet the required parameters. The connections will be made by an electrician, the pump will be started - after checking the connection, the service. Yes, the connected load is sufficient.
    Please give me a hint.
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  • #6 18929406
    Topolski Mirosław
    Moderator of Electrical engineering
    gieu wrote:
    The connections will be made by an electrician

    If an electrician will do it, he should provide information on this topic and then you can discuss.
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    #7 18929476
    kozi966
    Moderator of Electricians group
    gieu wrote:
    Please tell me what cables (cross-section and type / marking) I should buy (I will run in plastic trays):
    - main 3f between the main switchgear in the house and the switchgear in the boiler room (about 10 meters; I would prefer a cord over a wire if allowed)
    - connection (about 2 meters) of the PC compressor to the switchgear in the boiler room (compressor: 3 ~ / PE / 400V / 50Hz; C10 protection; starting current 26A; max power and current consumption: 9.44 A? 4.80kW)
    - connection (about 2 meters) of the PC heater to the switchgear in the boiler room (3 ~ N / PE / 400V / 50Hz ? B16; 9kW)
    - connection (about 2 meters) of the PC controller to the switchgear in the boiler room (1 ~ N / PE / 230V / 50Hz ? B10)


    Assuming the network layout is TN, and the IPZ on the main switchgear is at the level of about Z = 0.5 ohms, then:
    If the installation is only indoor (without output to the outside), the supply cable from the main switchgear to the switchgear in the boiler room can be YDY 5x6.
    I assume the protection of this cable in the main switchboard as a switch disconnector with gG32A fuse links.
    That's why I use security and cabling:
    In order to protect the compressor, a miniature circuit breaker of the character. C10A. YDY 5x2.5mm? power cord.
    The 9kW heater is powered by a miniature overcurrent switch. B16A. YDY 5x2.5mm? power cord
    Power supply of the PC controller to the switchgear in the boiler room - plug socket, protection About char. B16A. YDY 3x2.5mm? power cord.
    One should also remember about the appropriate execution of the protection with the use of RCD type A 0.03A.

Topic summary

The discussion revolves around selecting the appropriate cable type and cross-section for a 12 kW ground source heat pump installation. The user seeks advice on the main three-phase cable from the main switchgear to the boiler room switchgear, as well as the connections for the compressor and heater. Concerns are raised about the adequacy of the suggested cable sizes and types, with specific references to YDY, OMY, and OWA cable types. Recommendations include using YDY 5x6 for the main supply cable, YDY 5x2.5 for the compressor and heater connections, and ensuring proper circuit protection with miniature circuit breakers and RCDs. The importance of verifying connection capacity and voltage drops is also highlighted.
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