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NodeMCU v3 - What is the maximum supply voltage via microUSB?

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  • #1 19006301
    sq9etc
    Level 12  
    All I have left are phone chargers with higher voltages. One max 9V, the other max 12V. Question as in the topic, what is the highest voltage I can supply to this module via the microUSB socket?
    When I previously powered the ESP-07 module from the 1117 3.3V stabiliser with a 12V power supply, the stabiliser steamed.
    In the this module supposedly max 9V can be, but I have a different module, LoLin, and I did not find this information for such.
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  • #2 19006478
    dufek
    Level 32  
    There are several ways to supply power to the module:

    Supply 5-18 V through Vin;
    5V via USB or VUSB pin;
    3.3V via 3V pin.
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  • #3 19008651
    sq9etc
    Level 12  
    Can you provide a link to the source of this information?
  • #4 19008744
    JoteR
    Level 24  
    sq9etc wrote:
    When I previously powered the ESP-07 module from the 1117 3.3V stabilizer with a 12V power supply, the stabilizer steamed.


    Not surprisingly, "Line and Load regulation are guaranteed up to the maximum power dissipation of 1.2 W for SOT-223 [...]" and that the ESP can pull and 200 mA, so there could be over 1.5 W of loss there. This is why a two-stage regulation is usually used - first the voltage is brought down to 5 V and only this voltage is applied to the 1117-3.3 input.

    sq9etc wrote:
    I have a different module, LoLin, and for such I did not find this information.
    .

    "A 3.3V voltage regulator is placed on the board" with all the implications of this.

    And as for the title question - there is a CH340 chip on the micro USB input. What's the highest voltage you can feed it, check yourself e.g. here:
    https://abc-rc.pl/product-pol-9910-Uklad-scalony-CH340-uklad-komunikacji-USB.html
    Link to the datasheet there.
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  • #5 19008860
    dufek
    Level 32  
    JoteR wrote:
    Can you provide a link to the source of this information?
    .
    After that kind of time it's a closed tab for me.
    A colleague can search for it himself.
    With stabilisers, in addition to the allowable voltage, the loss power is important.
    The circuit can be supplied with up to 18V, but the loss power on the stabiliser can cause damage.
    It all depends on the application.
  • #6 19008962
    khoam
    Level 42  
    sq9etc wrote:
    In this module supposedly max 9V is possible, but I have another module, LoLin , and for such I did not find this information.
    .
    The information is available at: Link .
  • #7 19010291
    sq9etc
    Level 12  
    Thank you all for your replies. In my first post I wrote that the other module can be powered by up to 9V. This is the case, but not via the micro USB socket.
    It is not going crazy in my module. The CH340 converter used cannot be powered with such high voltages.
    This leaves me to look for another charger. Unless, of course, the charger I have works with 5V by default, and makes higher voltages, i.e. 7V and 9V available only to phones that can force it on it. But that's a question for another section.
  • #8 19010455
    kaczakat
    Level 34  
    If you're thinking of some 'quick charge' phone chargers then you can safely connect them to the NodeMCU. They have a maximum of 9 or 12 or 18V, but they only give a voltage higher than 5V if they establish communication with the device being charged and "it asks" for a higher voltage.
    Helpful post? Buy me a coffee.
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  • #9 19010763
    sq9etc
    Level 12  
    This is the charger from the Doogie T6 Pro phone. It has fast charging, but it's unlikely to be anything standard.
    The voltages on the charger are 5/7/9V.
  • #10 19012011
    kaczakat
    Level 34  
    In such dilemmas it helps to have a simple USB DOCTOR tester/meter:
    NodeMCU v3 - What is the maximum supply voltage via microUSB? .
    There are probably different types, so it's worth reading in the description what the allowable input voltage is.
    Helpful post? Buy me a coffee.
  • #11 19019687
    krzbor
    Level 27  
    sq9etc wrote:
    The only chargers I have left are phone chargers with higher voltages. One max 9V, the other max 12V.
    USB chargers always give 5V. Only after proper negotiation or setting of the signal pins do they raise the voltage. I have not heard of a USB charger with D+ and D- unconnected giving a voltage other than 5V (I am leaving out some car "chargers" where there is only a resistor).

Topic summary

The NodeMCU v3 can be powered via the microUSB socket, but caution is advised regarding the voltage supplied. While the module can handle input voltages up to 18V through the Vin pin, the microUSB input is limited to 5V. The CH340 chip used in the microUSB interface cannot tolerate high voltages, which can lead to damage. Users are advised to use chargers that default to 5V and only negotiate higher voltages (like 9V or 12V) when communicating with compatible devices. Fast charging technology may allow for higher voltages, but this requires proper negotiation. It is recommended to use a USB tester to monitor voltage levels when experimenting with different chargers.
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