Removing Ice in Full Freezer (3 Drawers) Without Defrosting: Tips and Alternatives to Heated Cloth

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#1 19090717 04 Dec 2020 23:39

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19090717 04 Dec 2020 23:39

I have a fairly large and full freezer (3 drawers). Someone didn't close the door and it was freezing inside. I don't have a balcony, I don't have a place to store it all to defrost the fridge. Is there any way to get rid of the icing without defrosting?
I was thinking about applying a heated, absorbent cloth, but I don't know if that's a good idea...
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#2 19090748 04 Dec 2020 23:52

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19090748 04 Dec 2020 23:52

A plastic, hard spatula?
Or a flat ice scraper.
Nothing metal - you will scratch the inside.
A heated cloth will do nothing, it will cool down quickly.

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#3 19090761 04 Dec 2020 23:59

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19090761 04 Dec 2020 23:59

Either a window scraper or you take everything out to a blanket, wrap it in a few, preferably a quilt and put a pot of hot water in the freezer to defrost faster and also help with a scraper. . Goods wrapped in a duvet will not defrost.
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#4 19090766 05 Dec 2020 00:01

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19090766 05 Dec 2020 00:01

Well, I have a plastic spatula, the one that was attached to this fridge-freezer, but it doesn't work. The point is that each drawer (except the lowest one) is on a strange metal double mesh with a metal pipe bent into squiggles and this mesh with a pipe is also at the very top above the drawer and this ice covers mainly this pipe and the mesh I'm guessing some coolant or gas is flowing through this pipe...
Something like in this picture:
https://obrazki.elektroda.pl/3038992900_1607122835.png
#5 19090770 05 Dec 2020 00:05

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19090770 05 Dec 2020 00:05

piotrkol7 wrote:
A heated cloth will do nothing, it will cool down quickly.

And how to heat it with boiling water, and squeeze so much hot liquid (boiling water) that it was able to absorb part of the melted ice.
And repeat this operation until we get the expected result?

Much of this ice?
#6 19090774 05 Dec 2020 00:08

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19090774 05 Dec 2020 00:08

The cloth is a closed thread
Thermodynamics bows, its basics.
The cloth has too little thermal capacity, even soaked in boiling water (apart from how hard it will be to hold such a cloth in your hand) it will cool down quickly.
You would have to repeat this operation for half a day.

EDIT:
The item in the picture is an evaporator - you can't remove the ice from it mechanically. Better defrost.
Can you turn off the freezer independently of the fridge?

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#7 19090778 05 Dec 2020 00:10

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19090778 05 Dec 2020 00:10

Well, I was thinking rather to heat the salt (I have one in large lumps) and wrap it in this cloth, or even wrap something in it that can be heated and it will keep it warm a little...
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#8 19090783 05 Dec 2020 00:10

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19090783 05 Dec 2020 00:10

The rag will stick to the ice. Like a tongue in frost to ice. Too much temperature difference.
#9 19090785 05 Dec 2020 00:11

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19090785 05 Dec 2020 00:11

@piotrkol7 - I can't turn off the freezer itself It's quite an old device, at least 15 years old...
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#10 19090794 05 Dec 2020 00:15

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19090794 05 Dec 2020 00:15

These shelves are at the bottom of the fridge? Open the door and blow the blower. How do you have it. Turn off the fridge for 30 minutes. from the network. The temperature in the refrigerator will not drop so quickly. Of course, do not open the refrigerator during the procedure.
#11 19090797 05 Dec 2020 00:17

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19090797 05 Dec 2020 00:17

@rnb_bolii - yes they are downstairs. I have a fan heater. Looks like I'll have to do that eventually
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#12 19090802 05 Dec 2020 00:23

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19090802 05 Dec 2020 00:23

A heat gun would be better than a farelka.
You could then act, but skillfully without exaggeration, but not too close.
And in addition, point, where there is more ice.
#13 19090805 05 Dec 2020 00:26

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19090805 05 Dec 2020 00:26

A heat gun, or a hair dryer, can help the farelka pointwise

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#14 19090812 05 Dec 2020 00:29

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19090812 05 Dec 2020 00:29

piotrkol7 wrote:
Thermodynamics sucks

The heat gun gives you more energy
#15 19090814 05 Dec 2020 00:30

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19090814 05 Dec 2020 00:30

I don't have a heat gun. All I have is a steam cleaner and a hair dryer
#16 19090816 05 Dec 2020 00:31

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19090816 05 Dec 2020 00:31

klm787 wrote:
A heat gun would be better than a farelka.
Then you could work, but skillfully without exaggeration, but not too close.
And in addition, point, where there is more ice.

Maybe faster. But pay attention to the fact that the heat gun has a high temperature as close as you put it and the housing could not withstand high temperatures. I think the breeze of farelka is gentle and better. Nothing fast...
#17 19090818 05 Dec 2020 00:32

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19090818 05 Dec 2020 00:32

I suggest you reconsider this statement
Heat gun, dryer - similar power.
It is known that a heat gun will give a higher temperature, BUT...
Would it be wise to heat ~400 degrees on the inside of the freezer, even if it was icy?
It's more like playing with fire, you could even say literally.
So a dryer is enough.

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#18 19090820 05 Dec 2020 00:33

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19090820 05 Dec 2020 00:33

betmari wrote:
steam cleaner

Oh, oh, that's gonna be good.
#19 19090829 05 Dec 2020 00:40

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19090829 05 Dec 2020 00:40

Farel for some not very long distance. Circulation should help her quickly. As for the products, at the moment, if they are not large, you can put them outside the window on the windowsill. The temperature outside is pretty low right now so it doesn't thaw quickly. Certainly slower than in the apartment. And what will fall there, will rise, will set ... Is it in the block? 😋
#20 19090835 05 Dec 2020 00:45

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19090835 05 Dec 2020 00:45

rnb_bolii wrote:
As for the products, at the moment, if they are not large, you can put them outside the window on the windowsill. The temperature outside is pretty low right now so it doesn't thaw quickly. Certainly slower than in the apartment. And what will fall there, will rise, will set ... Is it in the block? 😋
Well, like a block, but very old, 3-story, and it's just a low ground floor and someone would steal it right away, because here is the "district of miracles" Anyway, this is too much...
Well, nothing, I'll mess with wrapping in a blanket maybe. I also have a lot of bubble wrap, maybe that's better?
And if you buy a refill for a travel fridge, would it help?
#21 19090845 05 Dec 2020 00:55

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19090845 05 Dec 2020 00:55

Then load these products into bags and make a marathon around the block for the defrosting bowl. They will be safe with you. Ha ha...👍 As long as someone doesn't attack you.... Hungry...😋
uh. I thought you were fighting it now...
#22 19090847 05 Dec 2020 00:58

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19090847 05 Dec 2020 00:58

I will say this:
If the author of the topic provided at least a photo of this "glacier", it would be easier for all of us to advise :D

Regarding defrosting with a farel or dryer, some time ago I defrosted the freezer of an old fridge with a fairly powerful dryer and it took not ten or twenty minutes, but almost two hours.
So I actually exaggerated with these hot cloths :D

And in the first post I wrote:

klm787 wrote:

Much of this ice?

Well, how much ice is there :?:

Maybe it's not "hardened" ice, which requires a lot of energy to make, but ordinary frost, which was deposited for several hours.
#23 19090849 05 Dec 2020 01:03

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19090849 05 Dec 2020 01:03

Yes, photos and also what kind of equipment it is, it would also be appropriate to enter in the title.
#24 19090851 05 Dec 2020 01:23

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19090851 05 Dec 2020 01:23

rnb_bolii wrote:
I thought you were fighting it now...
no, I wanted to gather information on how best to go about it first. I don't think anything will happen in 3 days. The doors can be closed. They were just slightly ajar all night and half a day, because it was not even visible that they were not closed. And all these grille-tubes were covered with ice, especially at the top.
This has happened before, because these doors do not close automatically. Then there was less content and I put everything tightly in one drawer, wrapped it in a blanket, put it on the floor because it was the coldest there, and put a pot of hot water in the freezer. Unfortunately, the food defrosted faster than the freezer and now i would like to avoid this situation

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Now I googled that there are some antifreeze sprays for defrosting freezers. For example this one: https://obrazki.elektroda.pl/2796348300_1607127117.png
Worth buying? Will this work at all?

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And for the photo, I would have to take out at least one drawer, and I don't want to add heat there unnecessarily. I have described exactly. 3 drawers, including two on the shelves made of this strange lattice, which I have already given a picture, and at the very top and in the back, behind the drawers there is also this nasty lattice with pipes. And there at the back and upstairs is the worst.
And the fridge-freezer is called Ardo, but I don't know the exact model, because I couldn't find it
#25 19092848 05 Dec 2020 22:20

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19092848 05 Dec 2020 22:20

https://allegro.pl/oferta/glikol-propylenowy-min-99-9-500ml-9351036824 - and something like this (when mixed with water) would accelerate the melting of ice without destroying the elements of the freezer?
#26 19093040 05 Dec 2020 23:55

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19093040 05 Dec 2020 23:55

betmari wrote:
and something like this (when mixed with water) would accelerate the melting of the ice without destroying the elements of the freezer?

Don't mess with such things, my wife, when she defrosted the freezer, the best results are given by a pot of hot water, preferably a few smaller ones placed in the freezer, drawers with products placed on a blanket and wrapped in advance will last 2-3 hours, bubble wrap can also be, but it must be thick on all sides.
#27 19093245 06 Dec 2020 09:06

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19093245 06 Dec 2020 09:06

Exactly. Wrap all products tightly with a thick blanket, quilt, etc. Turn off the freezer and you can use a regular fan, or a blower. and you don't need high temperature here at all. Room enough. 2-3 hours max and you have order and no scraping!!!
#28 19093659 06 Dec 2020 12:32

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19093659 06 Dec 2020 12:32

I have a similar situation twice a year, I do this, everything in a plastic bowl and under the duvet, even in the summer it helps.
I take a regular hair dryer and a wooden spatula for frying in a Teflon pan.

Dryer on the lowest heating and strong blowing, gently press the people with a spatula and whole sheets fall off after more than 1 cm.
I carry the drawers to the bathtub and pour barely lukewarm water, as well as the windows between the shelves.
Then I wipe the inside of the freezer and all the drawers / glass with a paper towel.
I put it back together and that's it, 20 minutes, the food goes back into the freezer. No farels, heat guns, pots or torches.
Ice melts like crazy at practically room temperature, all you need is a large air flow.

I turn off the fridge during surgery.
We've been doing this for a few years now and everything is fine.
Sometimes the freezer was so icy that the door would open itself.
#29 19093755 06 Dec 2020 13:13

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19093755 06 Dec 2020 13:13

A normal household fan is enough for me. It provides ice within an hour and the products under the blanket can stand for up to three hours.
#30 19093777 06 Dec 2020 13:21

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19093777 06 Dec 2020 13:21

VaM VampirE wrote:
I take a regular hair dryer and a wooden spatula for frying in a Teflon pan.
but you don't have the whole upper and back wall covered with a grate, behind which there is a bent pipe, and two shelves from this grate, where the ice is on this pipe behind the grate? You can scrape it with a spatula on a smooth wall...
And unfortunately, but in my case, this freezer takes many hours to defrost, certainly not two
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The discussion revolves around methods to remove ice from a full freezer with three drawers without defrosting it completely. Users suggest various techniques, including using a plastic spatula or ice scraper to avoid scratching the interior, and placing pots of hot water inside the freezer to accelerate melting. Some recommend using a hair dryer or fan heater to direct warm air at the ice, while others caution against using high temperatures to prevent damage. Wrapping food in blankets or bubble wrap is advised to keep it frozen during the process. The conversation also touches on the challenges posed by the freezer's design, particularly the presence of an evaporator covered with a grate, which complicates access to the ice. Alternatives like antifreeze sprays are mentioned, but users generally favor traditional methods involving heat and insulation.
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