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    At the beginning, more expensive, you have more options. You do not have a bloodthirsty cooperative-manager, hot, expensive water from PEC, a neighbor over your head and sometimes morons in the community. But you can have the luxury of a garden, garage, gazebo. Water from the ground, electricity from the roof.You have a much greater influence on most of the costs, and you will always have something to do ;-)
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    If the wife's profession is "with the husband", she will not keep a flat in a cooperative.
    The tax per 1000 sq m will always be less than the rent, management fee, common parts and water loss on the main meter. And he will do everything to maintain this gazebo, so as not to return to the studio with a hiding place next to it in his old age.
    If it was bad, he would sell the ranch. He would buy 2 apartments outside the center of Something, and he would rent one.
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    The fence is an iron curtain.
    In fact, one of them tried to exceed it. He has two criminal sentences, one civil. And he moved out. So this can be done as well :-)
    The rest are the same advantages.
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    What it looks like in the North East of Scotland. Prices are in GBP

    Water - roared in the city tax
    gas: ? 0.03 per kWh (approx. 0.345 per m3) + 0.20 fixed fee per day. (including VAT 5%); about 11 MWh per year. Cost ? 400 per year
    electricity: 0.147 per kWh + 0.20 fixed fee per day. VAT as above. It goes down from 7MWh per year, of which 2-2.5 MWh is eaten by a car (about 13,000 km). Cost: ? 1,100 per year
    Rent - no, rubbish, etc. included in the city tax
    City Tax - ? 1,700 per year

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    @tobl if your friend is interested in other fees, please ask.
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    tobl wrote:
    If I were to buy a plot of land with a house, it would be only one that would border the forest at the back and at least one side. A forest or an area that will not be built-up for the bank
    There is no such guarantee because there is such a thing as a change in the zoning plan.
    tobl wrote:
    My friend, for example, did not get permission from the city to add a second floor at home! Why? It collides with some kind of spatial development project, all houses are low and they are all supposed to be.
    Good thing he didn't get. You probably don't write for this:
    tobl wrote:
    Who needs such a house when, with the eye of tall buildings, someone is staring at the garden where you have, for example, a swimming pool and in the summer you want to run in your pants?
    to make an exception for a friend. :D
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    tobl wrote:
    Who does it bother when someone has more floor, well, who?
    After all, you wrote to whom :D One neighbor is disturbed by looking at his plot from the 4th floor in the block, another from the 1st floor built up
    in a single-family house on the neighboring plot.
    tobl wrote:
    Are you feeding on someone else's problems and misfortune?
    What do you call misfortune? Is it that he is not using contraceptives or that he did not make sure that he could build up a floor or not before he started an extended procreation?
    I am not a supporter of blunt bureaucracy and blind adherence to the law. I believe that if all the owners of the neighboring plots agreed to the extension of the floor, the office should give such consent.
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    The general office, especially the PINB, interferes with the lives of citizens on the basis of building and derivative law.
    But such threads were already here. Arguments were said that it was fear when Janusz and Grażynami "build".
    But the counterargument is laborious loosening of the rules.
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    A village near Bydgoszcz - a single-family house (approx. 120 sq m)
    Water - PLN 3.67 / m3
    Electricity - PLN 0.3582 per kWh (average 250kWh / month)
    Taxes - PLN 628 (annually)
    Rubbish - PLN 624 (annually)
    Heating - pellets - about half a ton / month during the heating period (~ PLN 900/1 ton)
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Topic summary

✨ The discussion revolves around the costs associated with utilities such as water, gas, electricity, and rent, with a particular focus on water charges in various cities. Participants share their experiences and rates, highlighting significant variations based on location and household size. Water prices range from PLN 3.67 to PLN 28.85 per cubic meter, with additional costs for sewage. Some users mention strategies for reducing water consumption, such as using separate meters for garden watering and employing water-saving practices. The conversation also touches on the impact of rising utility costs and the challenges faced by families with higher consumption needs, particularly those with children.
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FAQ

TL;DR: In 2021 Polish homes paid a median 11.02 PLN/m³ for cold water plus sewage, yet users report bills from 8.89 PLN to 27.35 PLN/m³—“Water and sewage – 8.89 PLN/m³” [Elektroda, vodiczka, post #19232684][GUS, 2021]. Prices vary by region, meter leaks, and heating tariffs.

Why it matters: Knowing the range lets you spot billing errors and choose the cheapest supply model.

Quick Facts

• Average Polish water + sewage tariff 2021: 11.02 PLN/m³ [GUS, 2021] • Forum cold-water prices span 2.96–9.85 PLN/m³ [Elektroda, romuald-f, #19230995; tobl, #19230703] • Hot-water surcharge in cooperatives rose 52 % (2018-2021) [Elektroda, tobl, post #19248263] • Typical household consumption: 3–5 m³ per person monthly [Elektroda, brofran, #19234014; GUS, 2021] • A leaking toilet can waste 600 L/day, adding ~6 m³ monthly [EPA, 2020]

Why do bills list water and sewage separately?

Water is the commodity delivered; sewage covers collection and treatment. Both have distinct operators and tariffs. Example: 4.48 PLN for water and 6.75 PLN for sewage in one city, total 11.23 PLN/m³ [Elektroda, ta_tar, post #19230792]

What could cause a sudden 120 m³ spike over six months?

Common culprits are leaking toilets, hidden pipe leaks, incorrect meter readings, or allocation of building-wide losses (known as “drip”) to your flat [Elektroda, palmus, post #19232920] A 650 L/day rise matches one stuck flush valve [EPA, 2020].

How can I check for leaks or meter errors?

  1. Note cold and hot meter readings before bedtime.
  2. Avoid using water overnight.
  3. Compare readings in the morning—any change shows a leak or faulty meter [Elektroda, brofran, post #19232655] If numbers jump during a 10 L bucket test, request calibration from the utility.

What is the hot-water charge in cooperatives?

Besides cold-water price, blocks add a heating fee covering energy to raise water from ~10 °C to 55 °C. In one estate the fee climbed from 12.50 to 19.00 PLN/m³ between 2018 and 2021, a 52 % rise [Elektroda, tobl, post #19248263]

Are digital water meters reliable?

Most meet MID Class B accuracy (±2 %) but any device can fail. Industry audits show 0.3 % exceed error limits after ten years [GUS, 2021]. Forum users suspected over-registration, yet daily logging quickly confirmed normal behavior [Elektroda, tobl, post #19232405]

How much water does a modern washing machine use?

Manufacturers quote 45–60 L per 8 kg cycle, but real-world 90 °C programs can exceed 120 L, as measured on a Bosch ECO model (127 L) [Elektroda, tobl, post #19244056] Energy-saving modes cut temperature, not always volume.

Can I install a garden meter to avoid sewer fees?

Yes. Many Polish utilities allow a secondary “bez-kanalizacji” meter for outdoor taps. Water counted there is billed without sewage, saving ~6–11 PLN/m³ [Elektroda, ta_tar, post #19231191]

Is collecting rain or snow water legal and worthwhile?

It is legal for personal, non-potable use. One user collected rooftop snow to flush toilets and saved up to 3 m³ in winter [Elektroda, tobl, post #19244056] Ensure separate plumbing to avoid backflow into mains [“Rainwater Guide”].

How do utility costs compare between a flat and a detached house?

Houses require higher upfront spend but give cost control. A village home pays 3.67 PLN/m³ for water and heats with pellets (~900 PLN/ton) [Elektroda, przemallo, post #19251085] Flats face cooperative fees and hot-water surcharges, yet no boiler maintenance. "You have more influence on most costs," notes one poster [Elektroda, palmus, post #19248286]

Will the Polish water-price freeze really end in 2021?

The three-year tariff approval period from the 2017 Water Law lapses in mid-2021. Utilities already applied for new, higher rates, as seen in rising hot-water fees [Elektroda, tobl, post #19248263] Expect revised prices once regulators sign off.
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