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  • #1 19230703
    Anonymous
    Level 1  
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  • #2 19230792
    ta_tar
    Level 41  
    tobl wrote:
    For me, cold is 9.85 PLN m? and warm 27.35 PLN m?

    Is it PLN 9.85 / m? for water or maybe + sewerage?
    If with a canal, it is in the city where I am now, the amount is PLN 11.23 / m? (4.48 water, 6.75 canal).
    And in the place where I live permanently it is even better:
    In 2020, the prices were: PLN 5.93 - water, PLN 10.35 - sewage, and in 2021: PLN 6.22 for water and PLN 10.86 for sewage.
  • #3 19230950
    Anonymous
    Level 1  
  • #4 19230995
    romuald-f
    A/T specialist  
    Water 2.96 m3 and sewage 10.94 m3. 2020. A total of 1m3 is PLN 13.90.
  • #5 19231191
    ta_tar
    Level 41  
    tobl wrote:
    who, for example, fill their swimming pools in summer, water their gardens because they have fruit and vegetables, quietly wash their cars in garages and

    1. They have pools - they pay with the canal.
    2. They water the garden - in some cities you can have something like a separate meter without a canal
    3. They wash the car - pay with the sewer.

    And you see it all depends on ...

    I am here where I stay for a short time (single-family house for 2 people) - 10 m? of water per month.
    Where I live permanently (apartment in a block of 2 people) - 6 m? of water.
    Payments here and there on a regular basis as indicated - no annual or semi-annual payments.

    But I also know cases in the block of flats where the monthly water consumption for a family of 3 is 1 to 1.5 m?.
  • #6 19231268
    Tommy82
    Level 41  
    @tobl
    So what's your wear?
    Have you been living there for a long time?
    Maybe someone was up to the meters.
    Which one do you wear on hot or cold?
    How do you pour a bucket of water, how many times will the calculator jump?
    When you go to sleep and wake up in the morning, the meters are the same?
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  • #7 19232063
    kenubi
    Level 13  
    tobl wrote:
    .. nothing about the canal is mentioned in the rent ..
    Forgive me, I dare to doubt, the above mentioned bill usually goes to read everything.
    In a block of flats, 4 people, 1 is poured for two people, 1 is normal, one saves for the rest - that is me (military, short shower), one dirty, about 7 m3 / month - warm (then PLN 21 / m3 - we no longer live in a block of flats). Then it came out to me from the calculations (specific heat of water, etc.) that heating with electricity in the 1st tariff (60gr / kWh, probably 17 PLN / m3 with electricity, and the block was heated with gas, theoretically 25gr / kWh). Well, but put the boiler in a 5m2 bathroom ;)
  • #8 19232386
    puchalak
    Level 17  
    tobl wrote:
    ...
    And I am asking because I have the last whistle to go abroad (permanently). I started to create my life / plans and enumerate what I would do and what my pension would not be enough for in 20 years. I have been observing this upward trend for over 10 years and it looks like there will be no end to it.
    From 2015 to now, the rent for M2 has increased from PLN 516 to PLN 764, the rest of the fees have gone up by 200-300% minimally, so I am trying to calculate what I need these 1400-1600 pensions for ...

    The current pension is due to the so-called replacement amount, which is currently over 55%. For 20 it will be about 30%, which is about PLN 900 for today's money.

    In general, the problem will solve itself, because you will not be able to afford a flat, and thus you will not have to pay for water. :wink: And the one in rivers and puddles, I hope, will still be free ...
  • #9 19232405
    Anonymous
    Level 1  
  • #10 19232569
    puchalak
    Level 17  
    120m? in 6 months ?? You would have to use 650 liters of water every day. There is probably no such possibility. Maybe the initial reading was swapped?
  • #11 19232655
    brofran
    Level 41  
    tobl wrote:
    Is it possible that the digital counter is broken and somehow it is cyclically filling more?

    All you have to do is read and write the meters every day and you will find out what is going on. A pensioner has a lot of free time (unless you are still working hard to earn extra money). :D
  • #12 19232681
    sanfran
    Network and Internet specialist  
    Scotland, there are no meters for individual customers, the fee for water and canal is included in the city tax. Annually, for my house it is (converted) about 2,300 zlotys.
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  • #13 19232684
    vodiczka
    Level 43  
    tobl wrote:
    heating coal for different regions of Poland is at different prices?
    Of course, you didn't know that :?: Additionally, even with the same price of coal, the cost of generating 1GJ of heat can vary greatly from producer to producer. I emphasize - the cost, not the price at which they sell 1GJ because the percentage differences in price may be greater or less than the differences in costs

    For me: Water and sewage - 8.89 PLN / m?. Water heating 24 PLN / m?
  • #14 19232896
    Anonymous
    Level 1  
  • #15 19232920
    palmus
    Level 34  
    brofran wrote:
    tobl wrote:
    Is it possible that the digital counter is broken and somehow it is cyclically filling more?

    All you have to do is read and write the meters every day and you will find out what is going on. The pensioner has a lot of free time (unless you are still working hard to earn extra money). :D

    Find out in the cooperative how much you add "drip" from the reading of the main meter.
  • #16 19233145
    ta_tar
    Level 41  
    tobl wrote:
    And now, what amazes me is very much. Based on all of this, I did a count:
    - I count 30 days of paddling and showering ?64L x30 = 1920L
    - I count 30 days of washing twice a day ?21L x30 = 630L
    -I count 30 days of showering once a day ?17L x30 = 510L
    - I count 30 days of flushing the toilet 5 times a day (includes the 8L flush) = 30x5x8L = 1200L
    and I count on average 5L per day per kitchen = 150L
    -----------------------------
    together: 4410L or 4,410m?
    x 6 months = 26.460m?

    In your quick calculations, you did not add the water consumption of the washing machine (over 1 m? ;) , water consumption when washing hands after using the toilet, water used for cleaning and rinsing the paddling pool, water when washing the teeth (unless you wash in the shower) and I do not think that the toilet for two people leaves 5 times a day.
    If you want to count it, write down the water once a week and mark what and how many times it was done (how many times the dishwasher, washing machine, toilet).
    To what has already been written above, add the cavities assigned to you.

    One more thing. How much do you pay per month from the lump sum for water and how much do you actually use.
  • #17 19233162
    Anonymous
    Level 1  
  • #18 19233263
    ta_tar
    Level 41  
    tobl wrote:
    And the floors are washed when the dishes are washed, right after them, after all, you do not pour out the clean water used to rinse the dishes after dinner with dishwashing liquid, you load them into the bowl and the planked floors, and finally you wash the toilet.
    You're probably kidding because you wrote that
    tobl wrote:
    Washing dishes in my 21L mode.
    And I have to believe that you are taking the water out of the sink and washing the floor. :D :D :D
  • #19 19233283
    vodiczka
    Level 43  
    ta_tar wrote:
    And I have to believe that you are taking the water out of the sink and washing the floor
    He can choose to or insert a container to collect the last rinse rinse in the sink ;)
    My friend has a neighbor who does not flush the toilet after peeing and only after defecation. There are people who save on whatever they can.
  • #20 19233288
    elpapiotr
    Electrician specialist  
    For me, PLN 12.86 / m?
    Heating on your own, i.e. from a gas stove.
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  • #21 19233488
    Anonymous
    Level 1  
  • #22 19233519
    ta_tar
    Level 41  
    tobl wrote:
    The cisterns can hold and 10L,
    You always have the option of reducing the capacity to 6 liters.
  • #23 19233687
    vodiczka
    Level 43  
    ta_tar wrote:
    You always have the option of reducing the capacity to 6 liters.
    You can also pee into the sink, then wash the dishes. wash the floor with water after the last rinse and rinse the toilet seat with the rest after washing the floor.
    In order to reduce water consumption, you can also collect snow from the balcony in winter and rainwater in summer. ;)
    How low we fell :!:
  • #24 19233692
    Jogesh
    Level 28  
    I pay 0 for me. There are no counters. There is a fixed annual fee that the landlord pays along with the property tax. The landlord pays for rubbish, cooperative etc. It amounts to PLN 40 in Polish. Garbage is picked up from the front door of the apartment and I don't even have to go to the garbage can. But that's not in Poland.
  • #25 19234014
    brofran
    Level 41  
    Jogesh wrote:
    I pay 0 for me.
    Oh yeah Ahmedabad, that explains it all. The Hindu wash in the Ganges once a year, wash in the nearby river, and do poop anywhere. He only uses clean water for tea ... usually from wells, rarely from the water supply.
    BTW, my consumption is 3-5 m? per month (2 people).
  • #26 19234730
    Jogesh
    Level 28  
    brofran wrote:
    Jogesh wrote:
    I pay 0 for me.
    Oh yeah Ahmedabad, that explains it all. The Hindus wash in the Ganges once a year, wash in the nearby river, and do poop wherever they go. He only uses clean water for tea ... usually from wells, rarely from the water supply.
    BTW, my consumption is 3-5 m? per month (2 people).


    Somehow I didn't notice that the Ganges flowed in my city, or even in the vicinity. In addition, everyone here bathes all morning. Many people will not eat anything without bathing, because bathing every day is a must, often twice a day. But what do I know, as you know, we have specialists from distant countries who repeat nonsense (or create it) without stuttering. I hope they can do something at least in their profession.

    Interesting that water can be free ... interesting that air can be free ...
    It's nice that there is no tax on pedestrians yet. Sidewalk tax. After all, sidewalk maintenance costs money. I even have an idea how to do it fairly. To leave the house, you need a smartphone that measures how much you have gone and the data is sent to the central database and the tax is charged. Some insurance companies will pay the equivalent or even more for it, because when someone walks, he is probably healthier. We already have an idea to pay for walking.

    But I have inspiration this morning. Forgive me for going off topic.
  • #27 19234755
    palmus
    Level 34  
    Jogesh wrote:
    Sidewalk tax. After all, sidewalk maintenance costs money. I even have an idea how to do it fairly. To leave the house, you need a smartphone that measures how much you have gone and the data is sent to the central database and the tax is charged. Some insurance companies will pay the equivalent or even more for it, because when someone walks, he is probably healthier. We already have an idea to pay for walking.

    It was already a creative president of a housing cooperative who invented and implemented. Fees are paid by residents who are not members of the cooperative for using the cooperative's pavement. It was mentioned in one of the episodes of "State in the State"
  • #28 19244056
    Anonymous
    Level 1  
  • #29 19244078
    Jogesh
    Level 28  
    You can go behind the barn. Or professional "outhouses" set up over the pit with poop. Zero water. Nice saving.

    Or traditionally like in the villages of India. To the field, and by noon it will be dry. Only in Poland it will not dry up so quickly.

    Oh well. Or to come up with an eco-flush, which will first mechanically push the pile and then rinse it with a liter of water. It would have to be integrated with the toilet seat.
  • #30 19244114
    Anonymous
    Level 1  
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The discussion revolves around the costs associated with utilities such as water, gas, electricity, and rent, with a particular focus on water charges in various cities. Participants share their experiences and rates, highlighting significant variations based on location and household size. Water prices range from PLN 3.67 to PLN 28.85 per cubic meter, with additional costs for sewage. Some users mention strategies for reducing water consumption, such as using separate meters for garden watering and employing water-saving practices. The conversation also touches on the impact of rising utility costs and the challenges faced by families with higher consumption needs, particularly those with children.
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