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[Solved] HL-1GE GPON Halny Terminal + several routers, what is the correct configuration

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  • #1 19520593
    ipawq
    Level 3  
    HL-1GE GPON Halny Terminal + several routers, what is the correct configuration

    Hello,
    Please help me how to configure individual device addresses in my network. The Internet provider left me a Halny HL-1GE terminal

    It’s not entirely clear to me which DHCP should be enabled. Whether on the provider’s router or on another one (TP-LINK C2300), and what IP and default gateways should be entered.

    Maybe the Halny HL-1GE would have its own settings and the other equipment would have different ones?

    Because what good is a branded router with a dual-core processor (TP-Link Archer C2300) if all the traffic would be burdened by the provider’s router?


    I want everything to run smoothly.

    Should I connect the 24-channel camera switch (located in another building) to the home switch (next to TP-link C2300) or straight to it? Is there any difference?


    The idea is to disturb other network traffic as little as possible, but at the same time have access to all devices.

    If anyone could advise me, I would thank you in advance
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  • #2 19520603
    IC_Current
    Network and Internet specialist
    The concept is extremely bad for a new network. It only makes sense if you already have all the devices and don`t buy anything new and want to save as much as possible:
    ipawq wrote:
    Because what good is a branded router with a dual-core processor (TP-Link Archer C2300),

    I don`t know where you see branded equipment here, it`s just an average router.
    ipawq wrote:
    since all the traffic would load the provider`s router...

    You did not receive a router from the supplier, only an ONT terminal. The operator should be praised for allowing you to connect your own equipment without any problems.

    Write and an optimal solution will be selected:
    1. What is the expected bandwidth of the Internet connection
    2. Do you already have the purchased devices and can you return them to the store?
    3. Is WiFi supposed to enable client switching smoothly and without packet losses?
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  • #3 19520608
    spinacz
    Level 42  
    The basic question is whether the provider has configured the terminal as a router or not. If so, you don`t need it anymore, as long as the configuration (dhcp pool) is sufficient for you.
    However, if the provider gives you only one LAN address, run dhcp on the C2300.
  • #4 19520798
    ipawq
    Level 3  
    1. When it comes to bandwidth, I have what I want, 1Gbps on Lan network cards, and on the WiFi I use occasionally there are connections of 867-1300mbps. It’s known on the phone... 190-590mbps on 2.4 or 5 GHz

    2. I have all the purchased devices because I am switching from Orange VDSL to optical fiber. I can only return the TP-Link C2300, but then I would have the older TP-Link Archer VR900 router with a telephone input (it has 4 LAN/WAN ports which would probably also work). TP-Link Archer C2300 has a typical "internet" port.
    I was guided by the purchase of the TP-Link Archer C2300 because of the blue Internet input and the fact that it has, for example, a faster dual-core processor, so that nothing would interrupt. The previous VR900 was running for 5 years without any "messing around" and I am very satisfied.

    Whether the provider configured it as a router or not, I don’t know. There aren’t many settings there. Only I can set the IP, Gateway, or enable or disable DHCP. I can access it without any problems, I even did a hard reset, after which I don’t have to set anything, it still works from one cable straight to the computer.

    If it is addressed to 88.1 with dhcp enabled, will the 88.1 gateway accept all "traffic" or is it better if the second router accepts it?

    That’s why I’m asking and how to do it. If the second one was to be the main one, what settings should be given to the first and second one.

    Will there be any difference in performance? these LEDs on the 8-port switch are blinking like crazy all the time
  • #5 19520848
    IC_Current
    Network and Internet specialist
    ipawq wrote:
    I can only return the TP-Link C2300, but then I would have the older TP-Link Archer VR900 router with a telephone input (it has 4 LAN/WAN ports which would probably also work)

    Then return this c2300 as soon as you can. This is not a router that can handle NAT 1Gbps with heavy traffic. Besides.... you have VR900.
    ipawq wrote:
    TP-Link Archer C2300 has a typical "internet" port.

    This is the same port as in VR900. Color is not an indicator. The configuration option and possibly the internal connection on the WAN-CPU-Switch line are important, but now all cheap devices have one specialized chip that serves as a switch and a WAN port, at most this chip has four or five ports.
    ipawq wrote:
    There aren`t many settings there. Only I can set the IP, Gateway, or enable or disable DHCP

    It probably works as a router, and in one network you cannot use two routers in a cascade with NAT because there are problems with the operation of some services (e.g. PlayStation games, VoIP, VPN, etc.).

    You have two solutions:
    1. Return the c2300 and use the remaining three devices, but all working in AP mode, i.e. connected only via LAN ports (without using WAN), with DHCP disabled and IP addresses from the Halny router pool. For example, if Halny has the address 192.168.55.1 on the LAN interface, then the APs have the following order: ...55.2, ....55.3, etc. You set the same SSID, password and security (WPA2-AES-PSK) on all APs. It all works as one network, but without fast roaming and selecting the most suitable AP in terms of signal level. You gain PLN 500 for the returned router, but there is no optimal radio network.
    2. Give back the C2300 and sell the remaining three routers. For this money, buy a set of three APs supporting fast roaming and client switching management. For PLN 600 you can buy three TP-Link Deco M4 APs and connect them WIRELY, replacing the current AP500 and the edge router. A super fancy AP set is Unifi U6 or UAP AC Pro.
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  • #6 19520967
    ipawq
    Level 3  
    IC_Current wrote:

    You have two solutions:
    1. Return the c2300 and use the remaining three devices, but all working in AP mode, i.e. connected only via LAN ports (without using WAN), with DHCP disabled and IP addresses from the Halny router pool. For example, if Halny has the address 192.168.55.1 on the LAN interface, then the APs have the following order: ...55.2, ....55.3, etc. You set the same SSID, password and security (WPA2-AES-PSK) on all APs. It all works as one network, but without fast roaming and selecting the most suitable AP in terms of signal level. You gain PLN 500 for the returned router, but there is no optimal radio network.


    Is that what it was about?
    HL-1GE GPON Halny Terminal + several routers, what is the correct configuration
    HL-1GE GPON Halny Terminal + several routers, what is the correct configuration
  • #7 19521163
    IC_Current
    Network and Internet specialist
    That`s what connection is all about.
    However, you messed up with the address. After all, Halny`s address on the LAN interface is 192.168.55.0/24 or 192.168.88.0/24 as in the DHCP pool?
    Routers operating in AP mode do not need to enter the default gateway, even though it is impossible to enter it in the LAN interface configuration. If you can enter the gateway, it means that you are configuring the wrong interface (WAN, which is not to be used).
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  • #8 19521429
    ipawq
    Level 3  
    Why does Halny have the address 0/24?
    The pool I drew, 88, is a mistake, of course it would be 192.168. 55 .100 - 192.168.55.199

    it can be like that ?

    In Halne I did not find the option to enter a gate. And on AP-Links there is definitely a default gateway and that`s what I typed. As well as in the recorder

    This is what the Interface in Halny looks like. So what settings should I enter?
    HL-1GE GPON Halny Terminal + several routers, what is the correct configuration
    HL-1GE GPON Halny Terminal + several routers, what is the correct configuration
    HL-1GE GPON Halny Terminal + several routers, what is the correct configuration
  • #9 19521490
    Anonymous
    Level 1  
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  • #10 19521514
    IC_Current
    Network and Internet specialist
    ipawq wrote:
    In Halne I did not find the option to enter a gate. And on AP-Links there is definitely a default gatway and that`s what I typed. As well as in the recorder

    Because in Halny you probably get the gate from the operator.
    Show tabs from TP-Links with this gateway, because you are probably configuring the wrong interface.
    Let the DHCP pool start from ...100. Then you configure all devices that are to have a static IP address with values below 100.
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  • #11 19521616
    ipawq
    Level 3  
    everything is correct
    with dhcp disabled, the gateway settings are not highlighted, i.e. inactive
    HL-1GE GPON Halny Terminal + several routers, what is the correct configuration
    HL-1GE GPON Halny Terminal + several routers, what is the correct configuration

    of course, I will change .88 to .55 because these are old settings from VDSL
  • #12 19521623
    IC_Current
    Network and Internet specialist
    Now you have your tabs set correctly. All you have to do is connect all the cables. Set the same SSID, password and security and use it.
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  • #13 19521631
    ipawq
    Level 3  
    I`ll test it later and let you know
  • #14 19522905
    ipawq
    Level 3  
    everything works, monitoring works, the disk connected to the VR900 is also accessible (Map a network drive in My Computer).

    TP-LINK Archer VR900 is in the basement and this is where all the "connections" are. In principle, I could eliminate it, but due to the network drive it hangs, and sometimes Wi-Fi is useful here too.

    Halny will be attached to the white cover above the switch :)

    If there are any other interesting solutions, please let me know. but without changing the equipment.

    HL-1GE GPON Halny Terminal + several routers, what is the correct configuration
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    #15 19522909
    IC_Current
    Network and Internet specialist
    Everything is fine.
    Mount the Halny on the wall next to the splice cassette, not on the cassette, so that you do not accidentally damage the fiber optic cable in the future.
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Topic summary

The discussion revolves around configuring a Halny HL-1GE GPON terminal alongside various routers, specifically the TP-Link Archer C2300 and TP-Link Archer VR900. The user seeks guidance on enabling DHCP, managing IP addresses, and ensuring optimal network performance without traffic congestion. Key points include determining whether the Halny terminal functions as a router, the necessity of using only one DHCP server, and the importance of avoiding NAT conflicts. Recommendations include returning the C2300 for better performance with the VR900, configuring devices in Access Point (AP) mode, and ensuring static IP addresses do not overlap with the DHCP pool. The user successfully implements the suggested configurations, achieving a functional network setup.
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