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I am looking for a schematic for the A00040624A control board (w-pb100-esh-0297-01j)

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  • #1 21023883
    Ondrash1
    Level 2  
    Hi, I have the control board from an Electrolux dishwasher. The dishwasher is completely dead, the board seems to be fine. It has no hot spots or contacts, I only found this, see the attached photo.

    It is some kind of SMD resistor with position named "R513" - next to the (filtering) capacitor for the switching source. The repair is definitely unprofitable but I'd still like to try it. I have some experiences, unfortunately I don't have access to the schematics.

    Type: edw-pb100-esh-0297-01j

    Control board from an Electrolux dishwasher with visible electronic components and an SMD resistor marked R513. Control board from an Electrolux dishwasher with damage near the SMD resistor labeled “R513”.
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  • #2 21024394
    Telo
    Service technician RTV
    What type of dishwasher is this module for? I don`t understand the entry:
    Quote:
    The dishwasher is completely dead, the hob seems to be fine.
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  • #3 21024556
    cdtdsilva
    Level 10  
    Ondrash1 wrote:
    Hi, I have the control board from an Electrolux dishwasher. The dishwasher is completely dead, the board seems to be fine. It has no hot spots or contacts, I only found this, see the attached photo.

    It is some kind of SMD resistor with position named "R513" - next to the (filtering) capacitor for the switching source. The repair is definitely unprofitable but I'd still like to try it. I have some experiences, unfortunately I don't have access to the schematics.

    Type: edw-pb100-esh-0297-01j

    Control board from an Electrolux dishwasher with visible electronic components and an SMD resistor marked R513. Control board from an Electrolux dishwasher with damage near the SMD resistor labeled “R513”.


    Update:

    It initially looked like a capacitor dischare resistor, but as crazycavan pointed, if that resistor is 0R and it blew up, it was probably placed there to allow the configuration with one capacitor or two in series (Maybe a voltage doubler for the american market?). In this case it is bypassing the non existing capacitor. The fact it blew could indicate a short into one of the IC modules.

    Normally one would attach a incandescent bulb across it for testing pourposes. If it tries to start, it is safe to bypass that resistor, If the bulb is fully lit, it means a short - will require further investigation before power can be safely applied...

    Disclaimer: Never mind me saying... This is full rectified AC mains - Lethal - Please only troubleshoot if you're confortable and qualified working with these sort of voltages. DC is far dangerous than AC.


    I don't see a rectifier on that board. Is there any other PCB, where the AC incomming supply comes from?

    Do check, if you have ~340V on that large capacitor, once powered (remove the SMD resistor first). I believe the brown capacitor next to the transformer should be a 400V type too. Check that too. It defenitivelly should have voltage. if none of them have, you need to track down the circuit to see what gave (Likelly a fuse or a PCB track).

    That black disc between the two relays is a NTC Inrush Current Limiter. Do check there's about 10Ohm across it.
  • #4 21026301
    mrice
    Moderator of Home appliances
    Telo wrote:
    What type of dishwasher is this module for?
    One of the Electrolux PBs. g... these records are rare.
    Ondrash1 wrote:
    I have some experience, unfortunately I don`t have access to the diagrams.
    You won`t get the schematics for this album, it hasn`t come to light.
    Ondrash1 wrote:
    Repair is definitely not cost-effective, but I`d like to try anyway
    You want to try, but 95% of attempts end in failure. This is the case with Elektrolux.
  • #5 21026414
    AsReeX
    Level 39  
    Telo wrote:
    What type of dishwasher is this module for?
    He provided the PB100 controller type above ^^
    Ondrash1 wrote:
    Repair is definitely not cost-effective, but I`d like to try anyway.
    Yes, the module costs several hundred zlotys :)
    cdtdsilva wrote:
    And it looks like an arc went through it
    It was probably GIPN or one of the power supply drivers.
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  • #7 21026976
    TONI_2003
    Moderator
    AsReeX wrote:
    He provided the PB100 controller type above
    Are you sure you`re not misleading us? Look, it`s only similar to me, and the photo shows PB100 (if you know what version it is, please write it) :)

    PB100 circuit board with various electronic components.
  • #8 21027832
    AsReeX
    Level 39  
    TONI_2003 wrote:
    Are you sure you`re not misleading us?

    I dare say it`s quite the opposite ^^

    In the author`s photo there is a PB100 module, index 140000406078 -> 140000406011 -> 140000406102 -> 140000406136 -> 140000406201 -> 140000406169 -> 140000406185 -> 1400004 06268 -> 140000406243

    The same one with galvanic separation, second power supply and transformer is PB101 index 140101108102 -> 140101108128

    The photo you showed comes from the service documentation and I am not sure whether it was implemented into production in "this" form (the microcontroller is missing or it is from the external side).
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  • #9 21029865
    Ondrash1
    Level 2  

    >>21026301
    Quote:
    You're right, repair is really unprofitable. After taking a closer look at the board, I found that the IGBT module housing had been lifted from the side and cracked. There are also heated SMD elements in its vicinity.
    Therefore, the owner finally decided to invest in a new machine. Thank you all for your replies.

    You are right, the repair is really unprofitable. Upon closer examination of the board, I found that the IGBT module case was lifted from the side and cracked. There are also heated SMD elements in its vicinity. Therefore, the owner finally decided to invest in a new machine. Thank you all for your answers.
  • #10 21030000
    AsReeX
    Level 39  
    AsReeX wrote:
    It probably burned out GIPN or one of the power supply drivers

    This is where this story ends -> recycling.

Topic summary

The discussion revolves around a user seeking a schematic for the A00040624A control board (model edw-pb100-esh-0297-01j) from an Electrolux dishwasher that is non-functional. The user identified a potential issue with an SMD resistor labeled "R513" near a filtering capacitor. Responses indicate that the resistor may have blown due to a short circuit in one of the IC modules, and troubleshooting advice is provided, including the use of an incandescent bulb for testing. However, it is noted that obtaining schematics for this model is challenging, and many repair attempts are likely to fail. Ultimately, the user decides against repair after discovering further damage to the board, leading to the decision to recycle the unit.
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