Are you asking if magnets are a source of power? NO! You need some sort of energy to turn the motor. What you describe will not do anything but parlor tricks, if that.
Siva, when such a question comes to your mind, first ask yourself - if it is at all possible, why do I not see it around me? For example, we see a lot of motors around us...but how many of those are built/run using ONLY magnets and no coils and/or no power source? None. Why?
Yes, there are things that are possible but not yet done - that falls into the realm of research and inventions. But even there everything is still subject to the laws of nature - we cannot build anything that can violate these laws.
Simply, the motor would turn until the magnets are as close as possible and then the motor would stop. All motors have a scheme by which the magnetic field is switched or moved to a different coil (magnet) so continuous motion is possible.
John Bedini circuit Interesting website this Id have a look at this
I always like to keep an open mind myself You can learn so much from other people even when you think something is impossible You would be pleasantly surprised if you adopted this attitude
Very similar to the person with the wind up radio Another person they laughed and sneered at funnily enough another South African who beat you to it Now I wonder why that is then ?
Ypu dont think it might be because you sit in front of the Tv all day long or stit playing games all day long do you Perhaps thats half the trouble
“Men build too many walls and not enough bridges.”
“I do not know what I may appear to the world, but to myself I seem to have been only like a boy playing on the sea-shore, and diverting myself in now and then finding a smoother pebble or a prettier shell than ordinary, whilst the great ocean of truth lay all undiscovered before me.” ― Isaac Newton
Stop promoting pseudoscience. If you ever tried building one, you'd know it doesn't work. If you listened in science class, you'd know why it doesn't work. It's a scam.
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If that was the case then why so many links then Steve If this was such a scam they would have taken this off the net by now
There isn’t a single web / legal authority that would have not done this straight away So I don’t think it is but I've yet to build one and if they haven’t then there’s going to be an awful lot of people taking Internet management to court to face trial for defrauding the public which may and if it is a scam as you are saying it is then equally the so called inventors of this machine and people who have built this could take you to court over your allegations
See i don’t make any comments like that unless I know I’m absolutely correct Now I have a funny feeling that there might just be a quite a few serious problems with what you’ve just said unless of course you can prove that this is a scam
You see me would be looking at this Looking at the videos and I would be more interested than not interested and id be keeping an open mind I wouldn’t ever say that any new idea was a complete scam unless I had real hard evidence from many people to say that it is and had built this myself so I’m not taking sides at all that my way of saying he’s innocent until proven guilty which can be very dangerous with what you’ve just come out with plus of course any intelligent person of reasonable intelligence wouldn’t just make accusations without all the fact together with some serious hard evidence to prove or disprove beyond a shadow of doubt
Finally Steve the last point id make is that web authorities, legal bodies universally , would never ever allow this to go that far unless there was some truth in this That much I do know
A little bit like a fw other silly comments and actions on this site which are well and truly bang out of order Like someone else who thinks they can stop people from working if they so choose A little smart arse who thought he was little bit clever but could now be facing some very serious charges on legal ground
One of the main reason why some one eles didnt quite get away with attemtpting to take down information on my own site becaue they new full well that what they had done was wrong
Now Me Id be a little carefull from now on You just never ever know who might just be telling the truth
As Steve said, "Physics people, please". Perpetual motion? Seriously? A first year physics student understands this impossibility. In fact, you don't even need to try to extract work. There will always be a presence of dissipative forces, e.g. air resistance, and before anyone responds with, "What about in complete vacuum", research quantum mechanics uncertainty principle and realize that such a thing exists only in or imagination.
Perpetual motion? Really?!?! What century is this?
What have you got to lose by trying it Nothing That’s what I said Peter, People are seriously afraid of knowledge “ , “They also afraid of the unknown equally they are scared it may well work “ Can you imagine Steves face if you you built this and it works I don’t think Id ever stop laughing
If it was such a scam why hasn’t the internet removed all references to this
I know how the internet works and also the people who manage this If they honestly thought this was defrauding the public in anyway what so ever they would undoubtedly of that I’m convinced remove all references to this and take this person to court
If however they haven’t removed this and it is a scam and have ignored this Then very mildly put The people who manage the internet as a whole could be face serious court action for allowing that material to be published on the internet especially if the public were to prove it was a scam
That’s why I say I always keep an open mind “You just never know “ They also said some years ago that long ago if you think about this That man landing on the moon was impossible could never be done
In fact they would have sectioned you and placed you in a mental institution for just saying this They also said that ray guns would never happen Today they use Lasers as weapons
These were considered as one person put this as pipe dreams " Does make you laugh and educated person who read more books on space travel and many other subjects considered taboo at the time "
Similar to the man who developed the wind up radio They laughed at him but it worked and it worked very well and still does I dont laugh at people like this because again similar to cold light they shut that person up They didnt want this comming out onto the market because of the money it would cost the National Electrical grid suppliers TRUE THIS
The same happend to a young kid who developed a battery charger for ordinary batteries They tried to snatch his ideas and give him nothing that too was quite recent it was in the papers not so long ago
Also true
Cats eyes another one True never got a penny but they were quick to take his ideas
"If it was such a scam why hasn’t the internet removed all references to this"
Are you serious? Who or what do you think the internet is? The internet and/or the people who put mass amounts of garbage on it have no obligation to be honest.
Point in case:
*I have a tree in my back yard that sprouts hundred dollar bills year round.*
I doubt that I will see myself in court any time soon for this statement. I'll keep you updated.
Have you ever seen "the internet" stated as a reference in any publication of academic merit? Of course not!
There is the sublime and the ridiculous isn’t there Donald Dahl ?
Yes the answer they would same as they take people to court now for using ebay for fraudulent means and if it isn’t the people that manage the internet then equally there are various scientific bodies through out the globe that would not encourage this either and would revert to legal action because it would prove to be very damaging to scientific research meaning that they would risk funding by various Governments professionals if it were a scam
So as for serious Donald Yes I am deadly serious make no mistake that’s what I mean by a one track blinkered outlook It’s an adult discussion about an idea not a petty argument by kinder garden kids who’s mentality is that attained at nursery school
Although I wonder if they too sometimes have more intelligence than adults in some cases
Quite similar in nature to these countries attitudes regarding National Id cards but the first to complain about illegal immigrants , foreign immigrants
Now I bet they whished they listened Need less to say there are quite a few countries that very interested in that idea as to were some very educated people at the time when we sat down and discusses the use of smart cards etc especially when it came to credit cards and just how much information could be stored and used on those cards
It was only England that decided that it would never work but its worked in every other country and has done so for many many years
Frightened of losing money are we Frightened that someone ideas might just work and they might just prove you all wrong
I think that’s more the case with some of you
Typical of people such as yourself ( very very negative and afraid to try something new and different )
But there you go such is life I haven’t got time to sit an argue with people anymore Far to much to do and far more interesting
Mark, let me say that I agree with you that one should keep an open mind regarding what is possible, but a healthy degree of skepticism is equally valuable.
Regarding perpetual motion, I am not willing lay aside fundamental principles of science, upon which most of this modern world is built, and concede that perpetual motion is a possibility.
Let me quote a physicist from this century:
"Because creating a true perpetual motion machine may require us to reevaluate the fundamental laws of physics on a cosmological scale, I would rank perpetual motion machines as a Class III impossibility; that is, either they are truly impossible, or we would need to fundamentally change our understanding of fundamental physics on a cosmological scale in order to make such a machine possible." - Michio Kaku
I will add the following points regarding the internet:
1. No legitimate scientific body cares in the least what nonsense is distributed over the internet. They have peer reviewed media for reporting scientific findings. They are called journals.
2. If any government funds research based on a YouTube video, Tweet, or what they found in a Google search, let them be damned for their stupidity.
✨ The discussion addresses the feasibility of a motor with both stator and rotor composed solely of permanent magnets, without an external power source or prime mover. It is clarified that magnets alone cannot provide continuous mechanical energy; an external energy input is necessary to sustain rotation. Without switching or moving magnetic fields, the rotor would align with the stator magnets and stop, preventing continuous motion. Attempts to create such motors often fall into the category of perpetual motion claims, which violate fundamental physical laws including conservation of energy and are considered impossible by mainstream physics. References to John Bedini's circuits and monopole motors are mentioned, but these are widely regarded as pseudoscience or scams lacking scientific validation. The consensus emphasizes the necessity of energy input and magnetic field switching in motor operation, dismissing the concept of a self-sustaining magnet-only motor as unfeasible under known physics. Generated by the language model.
Will a motor with both stator and rotor as permanent magnets rotate on its own?
No. With only fixed magnets, the rotor turns until poles reach the lowest‑energy alignment, then it locks. Continuous rotation needs a changing field. [Elektroda, stephen Van Buskirk, post #21668975]
If I arrange the magnets cleverly, can I get perpetual rotation?
No. Without time‑varying fields, torque goes to zero at equilibrium. You still face friction and drag that drain motion over time. [Elektroda, Donald Dahl, post #21668983]
What exactly makes the rotor stop in a magnet‑only setup?
What is a perpetual motion machine in this context?
It’s a device that runs forever and/or outputs energy without input. Physics treats this as impossible for working machines. [Elektroda, Donald Dahl, post #21668987]
Are YouTube magnet-motor videos good evidence?
No. Internet videos aren’t scientific proof. Serious results appear in peer‑reviewed journals with reproducible measurements and methods. [Elektroda, Donald Dahl, post #21668987]
Is the Bedini or similar "free‑energy" motor legitimate?
I still want to experiment. What should I expect and measure?
Expect zero net energy gain. Losses are always greater than 0%, so motion decays without input. Measure spin‑down time and load effects. [Elektroda, Donald Dahl, post #21668983]
Quick How‑To: Demonstrate why switching is required.
Mount a rotor with permanent magnets and a magnetic stator.
Spin it by hand and mark where it stops repeatedly.
Who says magnets aren’t a power source, and why quote them?
Experienced forum moderators and builders state it plainly: "magnets are not a source of power." They reflect standard physics teaching. [Elektroda, Steve Spence, post #21668973]
Does putting the device in vacuum solve the problem?
No. Even without air drag, you still need time‑varying fields for torque. Dissipative effects and equilibrium still stop it. [Elektroda, Donald Dahl, post #21668983]
Why do some people believe these motors work?
Novelty bias, selective videos, and misunderstanding of physics fuel belief. Open minds help, but laws of nature still apply. [Elektroda, Rohit Dubla, post #21668974]
What’s a safer way to evaluate extraordinary motor claims?
Look for independent replications, load tests, and publication in recognized journals. Be wary of sales pitches and evasive data. [Elektroda, Donald Dahl, post #21668987]
Will stronger neodymium magnets change the outcome?
