Does Underwater Rising Balloon Generator (SeaPower) Store or Generate Potential Energy?

SeaPower description
This is a diagram that details a new energy generating power from the expanding rise of air underwater
In the diagram, there are balloons that air was injected in the lower balloon. As the balloon rises it expands and this expansion is caused by the reducing pressure applied upon it.
Picture this as if each balloon was a hot air balloon with an opening at the bottom. The first balloon at the bottom is injected with air; as the balloon rises it expands creating more lifting power.
This is the same principal that keeps a boat afloat.
I realize that there must be a reason this idea won’t fly but as of yet I have not found it.
If you really believe this contraption won’t work, please explain; otherwise you don’t have a clue.
The lifting force is equal to the volume of water displaced. This is the same principal that keeps a boat afloat. One cubic foot of water weighs 64 lbs. A balloon that displaces 10 cubic feet of are has a lifting force of 640 lbs.

Thomas, I could envisage a machine which would fill balloons with air, seal them, allow them to ascend to the surface, deflate them, then take them down to be re-filled.  Maybe on a big wheel or conveyor.  The use the energy generated to generate electricity, to power a compressor to provide the air to blow the balloons up.  But would there be any spare energy left over?  I think not, you're not using the inherent energy of anything (like fuel for example) to power it. And inefficiencies in the system wouldn't let it power itself.  If you're looking for a perpetual motion machine, forget it!  You could possibly use solar power for the compressor (ie external energy input) but whether you'd be able to extract some useful work from such a machine, I couldn't say.  The law of conservation of energy very much applies here:The law of conservation of energy is a law of science that states that energy cannot be created or destroyed, but only changed from one form into another or transferred from one object to another.  
You are putting energy into the air by compressing it, then using that energy to lift something to the surface (your machine) changing it to rotational energy to power something.

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Principles
to run the machine

There are a
few basic principles that you cannot deny.

[1] an
enclosed container (X) of air submerged in water has a lifting force (Y) equal
to the volume of the water displaced minus the weight of the container; [yes]
[no]

[2]
connection multiple containers one on top of the other creates a combined
lifting force of (Y)+ (Y)+ (Y)+ (Y)+ (Y)+ (Y)+ (Y)+ (Y)+ (Y)+ (Y)

Which is a
greater lifting force than (Y); [yes] [no]

[3] the
energy needed to fill one container is equal to the energy needed to sustain
the combined lifting force of the 10 (ten) containers referenced above minus
the energy needed to keep it running.

; [yes] [no]

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Can this
machine create more energy than consumed?If yes, why
& if not why not?An energy
design that may lead us to tomorrowSeaEngine
design-potentialFollowing is
the process-At 18 ATM,
594 feet down, the balloon is injected with air that is compressed to 36 cubic
feet.  At 15 ATM
that same 36 cubic feet will expand to 108 CF             Giving it a rising force of (108x64)
= 6,912 pounds of lifting forceAt 12 ATM
that same 36 cubic feet will expand to 324 CF            Giving it a rising force of (324x64)
= 20,736 pounds of lifting forceAt 9 ATM
that same 36 cubic feet will expand to 972 CF            Giving it a rising force of (972x64)
= 20,736 pounds of lifting forceAt 6 ATM
that same 36 cubic feet will expand to 2,916 CF            Giving it a rising force of (2,916x64)
= 186,624 pounds of lifting forceAt 3 ATM
that same 36 cubic feet will expand to 8,748 CF            Giving it a rising force of (8,748x64)
= 559,872 pounds of lifting forceHaving
stated the above, the combined lifting force is---774,144-foot lbs. of lifting force.speed of the rising bubbles is not determined, care to give it a try?
Principles
to run the machine [1] an enclosed container (X) of air submerged
in water has a lifting force (Y) equal to the volume of the water displaced minus
the weight of the container; [yes] [no][2]
connection multiple containers one on top of the other creates a combined
lifting force of (Y)+ (Y)+ (Y)+ (Y)+ (Y)+ (Y)+ (Y)+ (Y)+ (Y)+ (Y)Which is a
greater lifting force than (Y); [yes] [no][3] the energy
needed to fill one container is equal to the energy needed to sustain the
combined lifting force of the containers referenced above minus the
energy needed to keep it running.

















































; [yes] [no]

Along side every step in your presentation, do an energy balance, energy in versus energy out for every step in the process.  Then look at the engineering side of it, what are the costs to build, install, maintain, distribute, etc. You should be able to answer your own question.Allowing for the fact that input energy could come for solar or wind power, is going through your process  more or less efficient than using that power directly, ie, energy storage?
cheers,Richard

"Allowing for the fact that input energy could come for solar or wind power, is going through your process  more or less efficient than using that power directly, ie, energy storage?"Basically, I get the same answer from everyone who comments
on this. And still they all miss the point. To replace fossil fuels as our
basic energy source we will need wind, wave, solar and geothermal heat sourced
combined; it is not a question of one over the other. I have suggested a
possible energy source using expanding air bubbles in a combining energy effect
to generate a pulling force to drive generators.

Some call it a PMM and others just say, bla, bla, bla; but no
one has put this idea to the test by running the numbers themselves.

In the end, I can at least say I tried.

The same rules will apply in the future, but even more so. Any energy created has to stack up against the cost of  producing it.  Any new system  has to be costed , that includes the cost of energy to manufacture, maintain and distribute power,  you have to maximize efficiency. I see a future where power is created as locally as possible to minimize distribution costs, as close to the household as possible would be ideal.Your system relies on deep water. Any system at sea is difficult to build, and particularly  to maintain, and the cost of getting energy to and from it will be costly. You  have not even run the numbers yourself, put that to us and we may comment further,cheers,Richard

If the air in the balloons is 36 CF at 18 ATM, that would be 36 x 18 = 648 CF at 1 ATM. All other CF estimates should be lower than that so your estimate of lifting force is way off.For your principles:
[1]  you also need to take the weight of the air in the container into account as well as the weight of the container.[2] assumes that all lifting forces Y are positive[3] I'm not sure what you are saying here. Also this does NOT take into account any inefficiency in the pump/compressor required for filling.In addition to the compressor efficiency, you also need to take friction (of water on balloons and pulley system) into account when running the numbers on the net energy generated.

Thomas in one comment you saySome call it a PMM and others just say, bla, bla, bla; but no one has put this idea to the test by running the numbers themselves.but then you also sayCan this machine create more energy than consumed?
So you ARE looking for a Perpetual motion machine??As I pointed out in the first commentThe law of conservation of energy is a law of science that states that energy cannot be created or destroyed, but only changed from one form into another or transferred from one object to another.
If you disregard or disbelieve this then you put yourself in the category of kook and I don't think anyone here can help you. Run your numbers very carefully - as Elizabeth pointed out above your numbers were not right.  If you come up with numbers that indicate more out than in, you're pretty well certainly wrong somewhere.If you can find a place where gas is bubbling up out of the sea bed, you could harness that energy to do something (generate electricity, whatever..) but if you use energy you already have to do this you run into inefficiencies and you lose some of the energy you already have.  If you compress the air during daylight hours using (eg) PV solar, then use your idea to get the energy back during the night, you might be onto something.  If it's cheap AND efficient you'd definitely be onto something.Cheap, efficient energy storage IS a holy grail and if you can find something that does that you'll be rich and famous.  There's a good article on energy storage technologies here:https://www.eesi.org/papers/view/energy-storage-2019
which will give you some idea what you're up against. There are quite a few technologies and  the bar is pretty high already - around 85% efficiency or more.  Cost is the key factor I think.

Hey, That is a great plan!