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Kemppi Minarc Evo 150 Only Welding at Full Current Regardless of Potentiometer Setting

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  • #1 21693451
    ftar
    Level 2  
    Hi there. New member here. I have a Kemppi Minarc Evo 150 with a small problem. I’ve seen some different problems with those but not quite like this.

    It does start and weld, the potentiometer for output current is showing on display and can be changed
    Interior of electronic device with exposed mainboard and cooling components - but it only welds on full current (140a) no matter what I set it to. Any advice where to start looking? What is controlling current output?

    Regards ftar
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  • #2 21693517
    waldek63
    Level 16  
    To start with check the potentiometer in the evening I'll see if I have the schematic I'll send you. Waldemar

    Added after 11 [minutes]:


    Electrical schematic of Kemppi Minarc 150/150AU welder with voltages and components labeled .
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  • #3 21693635
    ftar
    Level 2  
    Thanks a bunch. I think pot is fine.. I have a handheld potentiometer too and it does the same. Looks like my problem is IGBT module VS-150MT060WDF.. which can’t be bought afaik.
  • #4 21694512
    smd
    Welding machines specialist
    Firstly, this diagram is not from this machine. Secondly, if the module was faulty, the welder would not weld at all. The current control circuit is faulty.
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  • #5 21694538
    waldek63
    Level 16  
    If you have the schematic diagram at your disposal, please let a colleague know that the fault is on the control system's side. As I wrote, I have hard copies of the documentation in my quarters. I work in Norway and have limited access to a scanner.

    Added after 54 [minutes]:

    Hello I am sending a document
  • #6 21694587
    waldek63
    Level 16  
    I can't help you right now because I'm at work, we can talk tomorrow afternoon PS unplug all the plugs from their sockets and reinsert them, check the connections of the potentiometer (encoder) for cold solder joints or gaps on the PCB greetings
  • #7 21694738
    SQ5AZP
    Level 34  
    For the Minarc EVO 150, the schematic was not published.
  • #8 21694768
    ftar
    Level 2  
    >>21694512 thanks. I did check the modules and they seem ok. Current control circuit you say. Would be nice with an electric diagram or such to source the current control circuit Exposed electronic module with visible circuitry and connector pins

    Added after 4 [minutes]:

    >>21694587 done it 3 times.. and tested. Still full current when set on 13a. Can't really find anything wrong with solderings so far. Imma get the IGBT modules back and get on the current control circuit and check and see if I can find anything.
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  • #9 21694820
    waldek63
    Level 16  
    Take a photo of the motherboard, the model I sent you shouldn't differ too much, I spoke to a Norwegian guy who says he also has something, from what I found out it only differs in the display and that there is an encoder instead of a potentiometer.
  • #10 21694861
    SQ5AZP
    Level 34  
    It differs, Waldemar, and in a fundamental way!
    EVO 150 has PFC 150 does not. EVO dual forward power amplifier on 50A module, 150 - six transistors in two groups.

    The reference for output current measurement is two or three parallel connected 0.05Ω constantan resistors! Next to the output rectifier on five diodes in TO247 housings. They go to the corner of the board (near the ribbon cable to the galvanic separation circuits and the amplifier. The rest of the circuit is on the control panel.
  • #11 21694869
    waldek63
    Level 16  
    Thanks for the information, we'll see something tomorrow mate Jon promised to bring again thank you for your attention greetings I'll write something tomorrow
  • #12 21694874
    smd
    Welding machines specialist
    Buddy waldek63, as I wrote that this is not the diagram, do not undermine the opinion of people who, like me, have repaired hundreds of such machines and ordinary and evo. And in addition I did not write about the control , but about the current control . There was a problem with cracking resistors in these machines , so that you never knew which one. And the schematic of the board , as has already been said here the manufacturer has never made available.
    I am attaching the service manual because I don't know if it is in the base, and I don't want to look for it. There is a schematic where the current control comes to the panel and by the paths look for components that may be faulty.

Topic summary

A Kemppi Minarc Evo 150 welding machine exhibits an issue where it welds only at full current (140A) regardless of the potentiometer setting, although the display correctly shows and allows adjustment of the output current value. Initial troubleshooting suggests the potentiometer is functioning properly, confirmed by testing with an external handheld potentiometer yielding the same behavior. The problem likely originates from the IGBT module VS-150MT060WDF, which appears to be unavailable for purchase, indicating a potential component failure controlling the current output.
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