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Kemppi Minarc Evo 150 Only Welding at Full Current Regardless of Potentiometer Setting

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  • #1 21693451
    ftar
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    Hi there. New member here. I have a Kemppi Minarc Evo 150 with a small problem. I’ve seen some different problems with those but not quite like this.

    It does start and weld, the potentiometer for output current is showing on display and can be changed
    Interior of electronic device with exposed mainboard and cooling components - but it only welds on full current (140a) no matter what I set it to. Any advice where to start looking? What is controlling current output?

    Regards ftar
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  • #2 21693517
    waldek63
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    To start with check the potentiometer in the evening I'll see if I have the schematic I'll send you. Waldemar

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    Electrical schematic of Kemppi Minarc 150/150AU welder with voltages and components labeled .
  • #3 21693635
    ftar
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    Thanks a bunch. I think pot is fine.. I have a handheld potentiometer too and it does the same. Looks like my problem is IGBT module VS-150MT060WDF.. which can’t be bought afaik.
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  • #4 21694512
    smd
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    Firstly, this diagram is not from this machine. Secondly, if the module was faulty, the welder would not weld at all. The current control circuit is faulty.
  • #5 21694538
    waldek63
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    If you have the schematic diagram at your disposal, please let a colleague know that the fault is on the control system's side. As I wrote, I have hard copies of the documentation in my quarters. I work in Norway and have limited access to a scanner.

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    Hello I am sending a document
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  • #6 21694587
    waldek63
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    I can't help you right now because I'm at work, we can talk tomorrow afternoon PS unplug all the plugs from their sockets and reinsert them, check the connections of the potentiometer (encoder) for cold solder joints or gaps on the PCB greetings
  • #7 21694738
    SQ5AZP
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    For the Minarc EVO 150, the schematic was not published.
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  • #8 21694768
    ftar
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    >>21694512 thanks. I did check the modules and they seem ok. Current control circuit you say. Would be nice with an electric diagram or such to source the current control circuit Exposed electronic module with visible circuitry and connector pins

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    >>21694587 done it 3 times.. and tested. Still full current when set on 13a. Can't really find anything wrong with solderings so far. Imma get the IGBT modules back and get on the current control circuit and check and see if I can find anything.
  • #9 21694820
    waldek63
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    Take a photo of the motherboard, the model I sent you shouldn't differ too much, I spoke to a Norwegian guy who says he also has something, from what I found out it only differs in the display and that there is an encoder instead of a potentiometer.
  • #10 21694861
    SQ5AZP
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    It differs, Waldemar, and in a fundamental way!
    EVO 150 has PFC 150 does not. EVO dual forward power amplifier on 50A module, 150 - six transistors in two groups.

    The reference for output current measurement is two or three parallel connected 0.05Ω constantan resistors! Next to the output rectifier on five diodes in TO247 housings. They go to the corner of the board (near the ribbon cable to the galvanic separation circuits and the amplifier. The rest of the circuit is on the control panel.
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  • #11 21694869
    waldek63
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    Thanks for the information, we'll see something tomorrow mate Jon promised to bring again thank you for your attention greetings I'll write something tomorrow
  • #12 21694874
    smd
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    Buddy waldek63, as I wrote that this is not the diagram, do not undermine the opinion of people who, like me, have repaired hundreds of such machines and ordinary and evo. And in addition I did not write about the control , but about the current control . There was a problem with cracking resistors in these machines , so that you never knew which one. And the schematic of the board , as has already been said here the manufacturer has never made available.
    I am attaching the service manual because I don't know if it is in the base, and I don't want to look for it. There is a schematic where the current control comes to the panel and by the paths look for components that may be faulty.
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  • #13 21848753
    lukewilliams
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    Did you get to the bottom of this problem? Mine is doing the same thing.
    Thanks.
  • #14 21849070
    ftar
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    I did not.. ended up parting it out.
  • #15 21849369
    SQ5AZP
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    >>21848753 Try to go 'thread to thread', Read start with the constantan resistors on the board near the output rectifier, along the paths reach the amplifier/signal converter and onto the flat cable and control panel. Do a waveform and then voltage measurement with an ocyloscope and see if it goes to the module. I suspect that one of the SMD resistors has cracked which is blocking proper matching of the signal flowing current. And use a 0.1-0.3 ohm 4-5 kW resistor for the measurements.
  • #16 21849827
    lukewilliams
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    Thank you for getting back to me. I have bought a new machine, but being new to testing PCBs I wanted to try give this a go after having success with a gym stair master which ended up being a bad MOSFET, making the machine hold the brake on max power always, similar to this thing being stuck on max amps always? If it was a cracked resistor, would I be able to visually find that? Is it worth taking the heatsink off and testing the MOSFETs, or am I barking up the wrong tree? This is a bit more complicated than my first play on a PCB, and I've only got a multimeter for testing
    Any suggestions welcome, but will need to be dumbed down for me, sorry
    Thanks

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    Also just to let you know, I sent this machine back to a dealer who repairs them and I can clearly see they have cleaned all the test points to test the board but they said I needed a new board and with that cost plus labor I may as well get a new machine

Topic summary

✨ A Kemppi Minarc Evo 150 welding machine exhibits an issue where it welds only at full current (140A) regardless of the potentiometer setting, although the display correctly shows and allows adjustment of the output current value. Initial troubleshooting suggests the potentiometer is functioning properly, confirmed by testing with an external handheld potentiometer yielding the same behavior. The problem likely originates from the IGBT module VS-150MT060WDF, which appears to be unavailable for purchase, indicating a potential component failure controlling the current output.
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FAQ

TL;DR: "The reference for output current measurement is two or three parallel connected 0.05Ω constantan resistors!" Inspect these shunts and the feedback/control path before blaming the power module. [Elektroda, SQ5AZP, post #21694861]

Why it matters: This FAQ helps Minarc Evo 150 owners fix a "stuck at max amps" fault by targeting the actual current-control loop.

Quick Facts

Why does my Minarc Evo 150 weld at full current even when set low?

Because the current-control loop isn’t modulating. The front panel accepts setpoints, but the feedback path that measures output current fails. When feedback is missing, the inverter drives hard and the arc stays at max. Focus on the shunt sense and panel/control traces. [Elektroda, smd, post #21694512]

Is the IGBT module the culprit if the welder still welds?

Unlikely. As one expert notes, if the module were faulty, the welder would not weld at all. A working arc with no regulation points to the current-control circuitry, not the switching module. "If the module was faulty, the welder would not weld at all." [Elektroda, smd, post #21694512]

Where is the current-sense hardware in the EVO 150?

Next to the output rectifier heat sink: look for two or three parallel 0.05Ω constantan shunt resistors near five TO‑247 diodes. Their signal routes to the board corner and across a ribbon toward isolation/amplifier and the control panel. [Elektroda, SQ5AZP, post #21694861]

What components commonly fail and cause a stuck‑max output?

Cracked or open resistors in the current-control path are a known failure. An intermittent or open shunt/trace makes the controller think current is low, so it drives maximum duty cycle. Inspect and meter every resistor in that path for drift and cracks. [Elektroda, smd, post #21694874]

How do I check the potentiometer/encoder side quickly?

First, reseat all panel and mainboard plugs. Then inspect the encoder/pot terminals and the panel PCB for cold joints or breaks. If an external test pot behaves the same, the fault is downstream in the control loop, not the knob. [Elektroda, waldek63, post #21694587]

Is there a schematic for the Kemppi Minarc EVO 150?

No official schematic has been published for the EVO 150. You will need to trace the board visually and follow the current-control paths from the shunts to the panel circuitry. [Elektroda, SQ5AZP, post #21694738]

What is PFC in this welder, and does it affect this fault?

PFC (power factor correction) is the front-end that shapes mains current; the EVO 150 has it. The stuck‑max symptom relates to the current-feedback/control loop, not PFC, so troubleshoot the shunts and control panel first. [Elektroda, SQ5AZP, post #21694861]

How does the EVO 150 power stage differ from older Minarc 150 units?

EVO 150 uses a dual‑forward amplifier on a 50 A module, while the older 150 uses six transistors in two groups. This affects layout and where you’ll find shunts and feedback routing when tracing faults. [Elektroda, SQ5AZP, post #21694861]

Where should I probe to confirm feedback reaching the panel?

Start at the shunt resistors, then follow the trace to the board corner and along the ribbon to isolation/amplifier into the control panel. Verify continuity and signal presence; repair any open joints or cracked parts you find. [Elektroda, smd, post #21694874]

What simple fixes should I try before replacing parts?

Do a connector and solder sanity pass. Reseat every plug and ribbon. Inspect and reflow suspicious joints on the encoder/pot and control panel. These restore many units with intermittent feedback faults. [Elektroda, waldek63, post #21694587]

Does a changing display mean the welder is fine?

No. The display can track your setpoint while the output ignores it. That mismatch signals a feedback/control failure: the setpoint updates, but the current-sense path does not inform regulation. [Elektroda, ftar, post #21693451]

What are the shunt resistor specs I should verify?

Expect two or three parallel shunts at about 0.05 Ω each. Measure low-ohms accurately and check for heat discoloration or fractures. Five TO‑247 rectifier diodes nearby help you locate the area. That’s your primary feedback source. [Elektroda, SQ5AZP, post #21694861]

Any numbers I can use to sanity‑check the hardware layout?

Yes. Look for five output rectifier diodes in TO‑247 packages and 2–3 constantan shunts in parallel (0.05 Ω each). If those counts differ, suspect prior repairs or missing parts. [Elektroda, SQ5AZP, post #21694861]

Quick how‑to: basic diagnostic workflow for this fault?

  1. Power off, discharge caps, and photograph the board for reference.
  2. Reseat all plugs/ribbons; inspect and reflow panel and shunt‑path joints.
  3. Ohm/trace from shunts to the panel control input; replace any cracked/open resistors. [Elektroda, smd, post #21694874]
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