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Will Nano Banana generate an electronic diagram or infographic? Comparison of the two models

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  • #31 21764817
    andrzejlisek
    Level 31  
    p.kaczmarek2 wrote:
    By the way, do you know about conditional prompting? If I remember correctly, it was the keyword BREAK in the prompt.

    It depends what you mean by this:
    1. Keywords in the prompt text - I don't know anything about that.
    2. Prompt engineering, i.e. crafting the text with standard control - I know about the possibility of weighting factors for Stable Diffusion and I know that this is a simple generator that can't cope with complex wording, but can partly be dealt with by specially adjusting the wording in terms of vocabulary and syntax. Then, what words to add so that the expected image style comes out.
    3. ControlNet, masks, combining several prompts, attaching an image - this can be done in ComfyUI, I know how it works and how to do it, but it's more of an advanced and conditional control of the model action, not prompt engineering.
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  • #32 21764928
    p.kaczmarek2
    Moderator Smart Home
    Yes, I tested masks too - as far as I know there are two methods, either with masks or with BREAK and the word BREAK groups itself.

    I am testing further. New idea. Let's see if the AI can count. Prompt:
    Given that chickens and rabbits are in the same cage, there are a total of 35 heads and 94 feet. Find the number of chickens and rabbits.

    gemini-2.5-flash-image-preview (nano-banana)
    Cage with 23 chickens and 12 rabbits on straw-covered ground Rabbit and chicken standing together on straw in a wooden cage Cage with chickens and rabbits and a sign listing heads and feet totals. Cage with chickens and rabbits on straw, surrounded by feeders and a waterer. Chicken and rabbit on cage roof, many animals inside; sign says 35 heads, 94 feet Cage with chickens and rabbits on straw, surrounded by feeders and a waterer. Chicken and rabbit on cage roof, many animals inside; sign says 35 heads, 94 feet

    It seems that even the elder Banana can sometimes solve the prompt? Although... this puzzle is on the web, maybe it is better to think of something that is not in the teaching data.

    Pro something is not generating for me now, let me know if it works for you.

    Added after 7 [hours] 57 [minutes]:

    Create a colorful 2026 electronics-DIY-themed calendar illustration inspired by the creative hobbyist style of Elektroda.pl. Use a 3-row by 4-column layout, each cell representing one month in order from January to December. The overall mood should be technical, serious, with separate popular electronics/electric DIY device for each month, professional style..
    
    Each of the 12 month-cells must include:
    • English month title
    • Perfectly accurate 2026 date grid using weekday order Sun–Mon–Tue–Wed–Thu–Fri–Sat
    • A small electronics-themed illustration unique to that month
    • Dates must be neat, evenly spaced, and aligned in straight rows and columns.
    
    Correct 2026 month start weekdays:
    • January starts Thursday
    • February starts Sunday
    • March starts Sunday
    • April starts Wednesday
    • May starts Friday
    • June starts Monday
    • July starts Wednesday
    • August starts Saturday
    • September starts Tuesday
    • October starts Thursday
    • November starts Sunday
    • December starts Tuesday
    
    Design notes:
    • Keep everything in a clean 3×4 grid with subtle divider lines.
    • Background of each month should match its electronics theme (e.g., circuit board texture, glowing LED patterns, oscilloscope waveforms).
    • Include small technical details—chips, resistors, connectors, wires
    
    Generate the entire calendar as one single illustrated poster.
    


    gemini-2.5-flash-image-preview (nano-banana)
    Illustrated 2026 calendar in DIY electronics theme, 3×4 layout with circuit motifs

    gemini-3-pro-image-preview (nano-banana-pro)
    2026 calendar poster with electronics DIY theme, 12 illustrated months in a 3×4 grid.
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  • #33 21765440
    CMS
    VIP Meritorious for electroda.pl
    Could there be a light at the end of the tunnel for the 2026 electrode calendar? @gulson
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  • #34 21765598
    gulson
    System Administrator
    Yes design and photos would not be a problem now :)
    The problem is always logistics, shipping costs.
    Although I don't know myself if an AI-generated calendar would appeal.
    I think it's getting old. For me it has to be a real Virgo or electronic circuit and not such a generated one <br/span>:)
  • #35 21765621
    p.kaczmarek2
    Moderator Smart Home
    Coca Cola has already tried AI-generated advertising, I wrote about it here: https://www.elektroda.pl/rtvforum/topic4146983.html#21748055 Reactions were overwhelmingly negative. The question is, is this a good thing?

    I'm trying to do a prompt for more realistic effects.
    
    Create a colorful 2026 electronics-DIY-themed calendar illustration inspired by the creative hobbyist style of Elektroda.pl. Use a 3-row by 4-column layout, each cell representing one month in order from January to December. The overall mood should be technical, serious, with separate real life electronic component each month, professional style..
    
    Each of the 12 month-cells must include:
    • English month title
    • Perfectly accurate 2026 date grid using weekday order Sun–Mon–Tue–Wed–Thu–Fri–Sat
    • A small electronics-themed photo unique to that month
    • Dates must be neat, evenly spaced, and aligned in straight rows and columns.
    
    Correct 2026 month start weekdays:
    • January starts Thursday
    • February starts Sunday
    • March starts Sunday
    • April starts Wednesday
    • May starts Friday
    • June starts Monday
    • July starts Wednesday
    • August starts Saturday
    • September starts Tuesday
    • October starts Thursday
    • November starts Sunday
    • December starts Tuesday
    
    Design notes:
    • Keep everything in a clean 3×4 grid with subtle divider lines.
    
    Generate the entire calendar as one single illustrated poster.

    Results from the PRO version.
    2026 electronics DIY calendar with 3×4 layout and an electronic component image each month 2026 calendar illustration in 3x4 layout with DIY electronics photos for each month 2026 DIY calendar with monthly cells and electronic component images
    However, still missing. Soldering bad - who heats the component? MCU bad too though - I think both the red and black jumper are connected to one power line? Itd, etc..
    But on the other hand.... it's only fun anyway, AI is rather not used to generate realistic pictures of electronic parts.
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  • #36 21765707
    CMS
    VIP Meritorious for electroda.pl
    The first two versions came out much nicer.
  • #37 21765787
    acctr
    Level 39  
    gulson wrote:
    For me it has to be a real Virgo or electronic circuit and not one generated

    Virgo can generate one too, one that you wouldn't tell the difference.
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  • #38 21766187
    aadeer
    Level 17  
    acctr wrote:
    Panny can generate too, the kind you wouldn't tell the difference.

    Then throw in an example 😝
  • #39 21766392
    p.kaczmarek2
    Moderator Smart Home
    @aadeer see for yourself the subreddit nano banana, just there a considerable part of the generation is about there.


    Meanwhile, I continue the fun.
    Will AI fix the power supply?
    Short test and tidbits from the inside of budget 100 W and 120 W LED power supplies
    please put a common mode choke in the correct place

    gemini-2.5-flash-image-preview (nano-banana)
    Close-up view of LED power supply showing a toroidal choke and a 47 µF 400 V capacitor. Close-up of a PCB with a common mode choke, GBP bridge rectifier and 47µF capacitors Close-up of power supply interior with coil, 47 µF 400 V capacitor, and bridge rectifier

    gemini-3-pro-image-preview (nano-banana-pro)
    Inside view of LED power supply with coil, rectifier bridge, and 400V capacitor Inside of a power supply showing common mode choke and capacitors clearly Close-up of a power supply interior with toroidal choke, capacitors, and bridge rectifier

    The Pro version has a much better "understanding" of the interactions between elements....


    Disassembled 12V 100W LED power supply with internal PCB components exposed
    Please annotate sections of this device:
    Be detailed and technical

    gemini-2.5-flash-image-preview (nano-banana)
    Interior of LED power supply with labeled components on the PCB LED power supply with open case and labeled electronic components

    gemini-3-pro-image-preview (nano-banana-pro)
    Disassembled LED power supply with labeled sections: AC input, switching, rectification, and DC output Budget LED power supply with labeled sections: filtering, rectification, switching, output. 12V 120W LED power supply with open case showing labeled internal components. Opened LED power supply with labeled functional sections and electronic components
    But Pro good... just what happened to him with the penultimate picture, I didn't change anything. The last one was exaggerated too.
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  • #40 21767503
    p.kaczmarek2
    Moderator Smart Home
    Panel with three LED strips mounted inside a monitor or TV housing
    turn the leds on

    gemini-2.5-flash-image-preview (nano-banana)
    Interior of housing with three rows of illuminated white LED strips

    gemini-3-pro-image-preview (nano-banana-pro)
    Interior of housing with three rows of illuminated white LED strips

    Same image, prompt:
    turn leds on in RGB mode, single colour for all leds
    turn leds on in RGB mode, single colour for all leds
    gemini-2.5-flash-image-preview (nano-banana)
    LED backlight inside TV housing, all diodes glowing red LED backlight panel with red LEDs arranged in three rows

    gemini-3-pro-image-preview (nano-banana-pro)
    RGB LEDs glowing purple on three light strips mounted to a metallic panel TV backlight panel with three rows of white LED strips turned on. Blue LED backlight on the rear casing of an LCD panel
    Pro has added LEDs for himself...



    turn leds on in RGB mode, per pixel colours, with animation
    gemini-2.5-flash-image-preview (nano-banana)
    LED panel with multicolored RGB lights mounted on a metal surface RGB LED backlight panel in animation mode with per-pixel color variation

    gemini-3-pro-image-preview (nano-banana-pro)
    LED strips on a panel lit in RGB mode with per-pixel animated colors Panel with multicolored RGB LEDs mounted in rows on a metallic surface
    It doesn't always work out, but it works out nonetheless....
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  • #41 21767727
    OPservator
    Level 39  
    acctr wrote:
    Panny can also generate, the kind you wouldn't tell the difference.

    You wouldn't tell the difference from a pored over plastic, that's a fact. Virgos from AI have such a scowl that they are perfectly symmetrical - and as you know, we humans are strongly asymmetrical.
  • #42 21772555
    gregor124
    Level 27  
    >>21762694
    These maps of Europe still look a hell of a lot better than what they print in the US, e.g. in calendars with world information ;)
    >>21761647
    In the pictures from Arduino with the Pentium 4 on the right, the width of the tracks is horribly matched and immediately looks artificial.
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  • #43 21777166
    p.kaczmarek2
    Moderator Smart Home
    An improved version has been released - gemini-3-pro-image-preview-2k (nano-banana-pro).
    Comparison of two versions: gemini-3-pro-image-preview-2k and gemini-3-pro-image-preview
    I will find a moment to add images.
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  • #44 21777235
    gulson
    System Administrator
    Looks like it has a larger context only?
  • #45 21778434
    p.kaczmarek2
    Moderator Smart Home
    I think it's overloaded, it hasn't fired up at my place yet. I thought it was about the resolution of the image.

    But as for the nano banana theme in general here's a related screenshot - this is what photoshop 2025 looks like:
    Screenshot of an AI tool interface generating a man driving a convertible on California coast
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  • #46 21778454
    aadeer
    Level 17  
    p.kaczmarek2 wrote:
    @aadeer see for yourself the subreddit nano banana, acctually there a considerable part of the generation just concerns there this theme.

    It's been a long time since I've looked at such subject matter.;) but when the subject of the generation of paintings started as '22-23 I've also seen some such works, I think I even read a more systematic analysis on medium.com and then the problem was with the hands, the number of fingers no and the so-called key parts. I assume that with the current progress this has already been solved.

    Going back to the topic of electronics - I've just been looking at the new photos you uploaded - on the thumbnails it becomes hard to tell the difference, as if I added a filter to pretend non-ideal lighting, I wouldn't expect to be fooled into thinking they were real photos.
  • #47 21782593
    gulson
    System Administrator
    @p.kaczmarek2
    At your leisure, you can check out how the new model from OpenAI called GPT Image 1.5

    a schematic showing how to control relay from arduino GPIO with a transistor and protection diode
    Diagram of relay control using Arduino GPIO with NPN transistor and protection diode

    Draw four elements on table: a 2200uF 30V capacitor, a Zener diode, a WS2812B single module, and a DIP8 socket
    2200µF 30V capacitor, Zener diode, WS2812B module, and DIP8 socket on wooden table

    Draw infographic - history of electronics PCB technology, start 1950, end in 2025
    Infographic showing PCB technology history from the 1950s to the 2010s.
  • #48 21782673
    p.kaczmarek2
    Moderator Smart Home
    Images only from gpt-image-1.5 , repetition of the task from post https://www.elektroda.pl/rtvforum/topic4154614-30.html#21766392 , i.e. description of the power supply
    Please annotate sections of this device:
    Be detailed and technical

    Disassembled switched-mode power supply with labeled functional sections on PCB
    Open switch-mode power supply with labeled PCB components and removed cover
    Internal view of a power supply with labeled fuse, transformer, capacitors, and AC/DC terminals.
    It has hallucinated the EMI filters, in general, mislabeling.

    Repeat choke task - see previous post.
    please put a common mode choke in the correct place
    Close-up of a PCB with common-mode choke, bridge rectifier, and capacitor.
    Weak on logic.
    Close-up of a ferrite choke, capacitors, and bridge rectifier on a PCB
    Power supply section with ferrite choke, capacitors, and bridge rectifier visible


    Repeat from https://www.elektroda.pl/rtvforum/topic4154614.html#21762779
    change the socket to have 6 230V sockets instead of 4 like now
    Power strip with four 230V outlets, four USB ports, and a power button
    It was possible to add the sockets:
    Power strip with six 230V sockets and three USB ports
    And here's what happened...
    White power strip with six 230V sockets and four USB charging ports
    About.
    White power strip with 6 230V sockets, 3 USB ports, and a round power button


    make a donald duck advertisement of this power strip, let donal duck hold it and show it
    Power strip with six 230V Schuko sockets on a wooden surface
    // To be completed


    For now, my impression is that it is even weaker than the Nano Banana Pro in terms of electronics. Then maybe I will complete the post some more.
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