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How is a PoE 60 W switch designed for monitoring constructed? Designed in Poland?

p.kaczmarek2 1908 15

TL;DR

  • A PoE-compliant IEEE 802.3af/at/bt switch with 4 powered LAN ports, 2 uplinks, and up to 60 W is opened and inspected, including the claim that it was designed in Poland.
  • Inside, the switch uses two boards: a flyback power supply and a main controller board with a JL5108B, separate signal transformers, four FM15N10 chips, and an XL7005A regulator.
  • The PCB is marked ANPA_1024PE_V2.22, the transformers are DC4810G and DC2064DG, and the product costs just under PLN70.
  • In use, it draws about 1.5 W idle and 2.5 W with moderate traffic, then works flawlessly in a camera installation.
  • Several cost-saving choices stand out, including LEDs placed on the PCB bottom, no integrated magjacks, and unpopulated pads for input filtering, a varistor, and TVS protection.
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  • Front panel of Zenwire PoE 1024 Ethernet switch with six RJ45 ports and an On/Off switch
    Here I will show the inside of a PoE-compliant IEEE 802.3af/at/bt switch with up to 60 W, offering 4 LAN ports (with power), 2 uplink ports and a throughput of up to 1.6 Gbps. PoE (Power over Ethernet), as the name suggests, is a technology that allows data and power to be transmitted simultaneously over the same network cable. For example, IP cameras, access points or there VoIP telephones, as well as many other devices, can be conveniently powered in this way.
    Box of Zenwire PoE 1028 Ethernet PoE switch with device image and feature icons Box labeled “zenwire” 6x Ethernet PoE Switch (PoE 1024) on a light background White zenwire box showing PoE 1024 and PoE 1023 model info and manufacturer details
    The box is interesting in that it has one model on one side and another on the other - and it's the same box.
    The product costs just under PLN70 and is advertised as designed in Poland, which already made me curious - the production is obviously in PRC, but the design is supposedly ours. We'll have a look inside soon, there's still a manual left:
    Photo of a “Ethernet PoE Switch Zenwire” manual page with warnings list and CE and RoHS marks
    The casing is encouraging, it is metal and quite solid.
    Black metal device case with yellow “WARNING” label and a power cord ending in a Euro plug
    The cable is not grounded, but can be connected next to it:
    Black metal device case with an attached power cable and a small blue cap on the left
    We take a look inside. There we have two boards - one is the power supply and the other is the mains controller.
    Inside a metal PoE switch case with two PCBs, wiring, and a separate power-supply board
    PCB designation: ANPA_1024PE_V2.22:
    Inside a PoE switch: metal case with two PCBs, including RJ45 ports and a power-supply module
    PCB from the power supply - here we have a simple flyback topology, I even see a TL431 on the bottom:
    Underside of a green PCB with red and black wires soldered, mounted inside a metal enclosure
    There's an empty space on the power supply input for filters and a varistor:
    Close-up of power-supply PCB with electrolytic capacitor, MOV/fuse footprints, yellow capacitor, and wiring
    I haven't checked what the inverter is realised on - I didn't want to desolder the heatsink. Maybe it's some kind of circuit from the ViPER or TNY series?

    Now for the second board. Anyone lusted after the protective LEDs? The connector LEDs are on the bottom of the PCB, I guess it was cheaper that way than buying RJ45 connectors with built in LEDs.
    Green switch PCB with six RJ45 ports, viewed from the trace and solder side
    Isolation signal transformers are separate (no integrated 'magjack' here):
    PoE switch PCB with six RJ45 ports and power components on a tabletop
    DC4810G and DC2064DG. Catalogue note that it is for gigabit connection.
    MinZhou datasheet page with specs table and schematic for 100/1000 BASE‑T transformer module DC4810G
    Apart from that, we have the main controller, the main inverter and four FM15N10 chips in there.
    Close-up of a PoE switch PCB showing JL5108B IC, SLK transformer, and SMD component sections
    JL5108B:
    “JL5108 Product Brief” page by JLSemi with overview text and a bulleted list of Ethernet switch features
    FM15N10 role I did not recognise, maybe it is a MOSFET?
    Close-up of a PoE switch PCB by an RJ45 port, showing TVS1 and D30 pads and a DC2064DG-marked chip
    There is also an XL7005A inverter on the input, this is probably used to step down the voltage to supply the rest of the circuit. Interestingly, there is a place on the PCB for a TVS protection diode, but it is not soldered on. Next to the inverter, there is still a surface-mounted chip in a SOIC case, which is not marked.

    I briefly tested this switch at my site, but without PoE testing. With no wires connected (or no network traffic) it draws about 1.5 W, with moderate traffic it draws 2.5 W.
    Network switch with Ethernet cables connected and a PeakTech 9035 power meter showing 2.1 W Network switch with Ethernet cables connected and an energy meter showing 1.5 W
    I then mounted the switch in the target location to work with the cameras and it works flawlessly.

    In summary, this was a brief demonstration of a PoE switch which, according to the information on the packaging, was designed in our country. It is difficult for me to judge how much this was actually the case, although undoubtedly inside you can see some savings on components and changes of plans in relation to the design of the PCB itself. Also, not all the electronic circuits inside have been clearly identified, so if anyone has anything more to add, feel free to comment. Do you use PoE switches?

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  • #3 21866730
    forest1600
    Level 20  
    Designed in Poland... Yeah, Polish was only the IP when ordering the whole container from Asia haha.
  • #4 21866745
    chemik_16
    Level 27  
    oh, by the way, I need to do a poe injection for the gigabit, I understand that in the passive variant it is enough to simply apply 48v to these middle taps (1,4,7 etc) ?
  • #5 21866747
    p.kaczmarek2
    Moderator Smart Home
    speedy9 wrote:
    Something I have serious doubts about "Designed in Poland".

    Recently, I think we have had some sort of rash of such "Polish" (according to the packaging information) products:
    Can a socket distributor from a Polish manufacturer in Tomic be dangerous? Spectrum earthing
    Is this some new form of marketing?
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  • #6 21866994
    DJ_KLIMA
    Level 25  
    Patriotic" marketing
  • #7 21868008
    William Bonawentura
    Level 34  
    What voltage does the mains supply have?
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  • #8 21869002
    Homo_toxicus
    Level 27  
    As for me, I would be afraid to use this Chinese "contraption". Metal casing and no protective wire in the mains supply. It's asking for trouble.

    EDIT: I didn't see that - sorry.
    You can connect the earth to yourself.

    Bottom of a black metal enclosure with a power cable and a blue crimp terminal on a screw
    I can already see users buying cable in bulk, crimping the end and connecting it to earth....
    Typical Chinese disregard for regulations and common sense.

    It may have been designed in Poland. The Chinese man was on remote work.
  • #9 21870002
    siewcu
    Level 35  
    William Bonawentura wrote:
    What voltage does the PoE supply have?

    Since PoE is something between 47 and 52V. Although I have a 60W PoE switch(4 ports + 2 uplinks) on my desk, but a gigabit and it has a 53V power supply. Just a brand a bit more (u)known.
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  • #11 21870267
    p.kaczmarek2
    Moderator Smart Home
    Bottom plate:
    White label on black device with model and Zenwire manufacturer details, plus CE and crossed-out bin symbols
    Why such a question?
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  • #12 21870285
    gregor124
    Level 28  
    >>21870267
    I think the nameplate is an important description of any product, so it should be in the product description.
    I notice that a Polish company is listed as the manufacturer, only that there is no mention in the KRS that it produces anything ;)

    I don't know if it might be the photo that's deceiving, but it seems to me that there's something wrong with the proportions of that CE standard mark.

    Grid diagram with red axes comparing proportions of the “CE” mark.
    https://pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oznaczenie_CE
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  • #13 21870331
    p.kaczmarek2
    Moderator Smart Home
    A small correction as to the first post - I have updated the pictures of the box so that it is shown from both sides. The box on one side shows the 1024 model with 4 PoE and the other side shows the 1028, with 8 PoE. I have the 1024 one, thanks to the person who pointed this out to me on PW for this, good to have someone who pays attention to detail.
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  • #14 21874726
    heposlaw
    Level 10  
    I have a switch on the intercom system.
    I don't know what the switch is for, sometimes the blue LED lights up. The manufacturer has stated that it is used to switch off the device. whether the switch is on or off, it works.
    The problem that has arisen is that it has a built-in PoE watchdog which cannot be switched off. They state that the device is suitable for voip telephony, but when I described the problem they said it was not suitable for intercom or voip. With the function where the device goes to sleep it states that it has hung up and restarts.
    They also state that it works on ext at 250 metres but do not know how. no switch.

    I got all the answers from gpt chat, I don't even think they read what they spit out and sent it on.
  • #15 21874729
    speedy9
    Helpful for users
    heposlaw wrote:
    For chrissakes I don't know what this switch is for

    You're probably talking about the one on the front with the description "EXTEND". This is the "range extender" providing an increase in range from the standard 100m to about 250m. So much for the theory. Does it work in practice? I don't know. You would have to test
  • #16 21875172
    siewcu
    Level 35  
    speedy9 wrote:
    providing an increase in range from the standard 100m to approximately 250m.

    With a concomitant drop in data speed to 10Mbps. Quite significant information.
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