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How to determine if kitchen and bathroom sockets are on the same phase in 3-phase home?

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  • #1 2138647
    dgaleza
    Level 20  
    I have a simple and flimsy question, but a very interesting one.
    In my house there is a 3-phase installation. And I wonder how you can check if the sockets in the kitchen and bathroom are the same phase or different ???
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  • #2 2138696
    ion-tichy
    Level 31  
    maybe it's trivial, but the first thing that comes to my mind is to disconnect one phase and check which sockets are not powered
    and three times until we know everything about everyone.
  • #3 2138825
    dgaleza
    Level 20  
    I have already done so. I am interested in some way that does not require interference in the connection of phases
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    #4 2139037
    spros
    Level 17  
    he can, for example, refer to the project. or check if the voltage from one point is in phase with the voltage from another point. but it is more cumbersome than lowering the fuse and checking that the light is on :)
    greetings in the new year.

    PS. there is still a hardcore way, but I do not recommend it to my biggest enemies. namely, if the two potentials are equal (the same phase) then theoretically you should not fuss if you catch yourself with them and lift your legs up. the only problem is proper coordination of movements. and that usually the first mistake will eliminate you from the evolution of the species.
    to make it safer, you can use some volmeter. if there is no voltage between the "phases" (or it is small to a few volts) it is usually the same phase.
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    #5 2139566
    jony15
    Level 25  
    two 220V bulbs connected in series, one end of the phase in the bathroom, for example, and the other (via a long cable) to the phase in the kitchen. if it shines in other phases, if it doesn't shine it is the same. greetings
  • #6 2140346
    dgaleza
    Level 20  
    spros - your way is really hardcore and could certainly be used in the movie "Jacgaz - nuts in action" :)

    ions15 - your way is also very interesting and I will try it, only it involves a huge amount of conductor. I will most likely use your way if nothing more interesting is found.

    and it is impossible to solve it electronically ???
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    #7 2140517
    cymbi
    Level 27  
    Just remember two bulbs in series.
  • #8 2142050
    dgaleza
    Level 20  
    why in series ??
  • #9 2142205
    krzychol66
    Level 25  
    dgaleza wrote:
    and it is impossible to solve it electronically ???

    Can be.
    Instead of light bulbs, an electronic multimeter ;)

    Added after 1 [minutes]:

    dgaleza wrote:
    why in series ??

    and what if they don't get burned if they get 400 instead of 230 ;)
  • #10 2142321
    dgaleza
    Level 20  
    I understand.
    and how is it with this multimeter ???
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    #11 2142455
    killer
    Level 19  
    The method with a multimeter is to measure the effective voltage between the phase in the bathroom and kitchen.
    If you take a measurement between the kitchen phase and, for example, zero of the bathroom, you will get 230V.
    When you hit both phases during the measurement, depending on whether they are different or the same phases, you will get 0V or 400V (the meter will show the value resulting from the subtraction of the effective voltage vectors in individual phases - I recommend any electrical engineering book to learn the basics).
    For example, if you hit the neutral wires of the bathroom and kitchen, you will also get 0V - as long as the installation is correct.
    If you have never done such things, I advise you to skip this measurement and use ion-tichy's advice.
    400V is no joke anymore, in the worst case it is a threat death .
    Of course, you must have the appropriate multimeter.

    greetings
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  • #12 2143795
    dgaleza
    Level 20  
    I understand, but rather I will use the bulb method.

    Added after 2 [minutes]:

    PS. THIS THEME IS CONSIDERED CLOSED !!!

Topic summary

To determine if sockets in a 3-phase installation are on the same phase, several methods can be employed. One straightforward approach is to disconnect one phase and observe which sockets lose power. However, for a non-invasive method, users can refer to electrical project documentation or measure the voltage between the two sockets using a multimeter. If the voltage is 0V or close to it, the sockets are on the same phase; if it measures around 400V, they are on different phases. An alternative method involves connecting two 220V bulbs in series between the two sockets; if they light up, the sockets are on different phases. Caution is advised when using the multimeter method due to the risk of high voltage.
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