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LAN cable only works at 10Mbps, not 100Mbps—how to test cable quality remotely?

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How can I test a LAN cable remotely when it works at 10 Mbps but not at 100 Mbps, and why would that happen?

A cable that works at 10 Mbps but not at 100 Mbps is usually wired incorrectly or has a cable/pair quality problem, because 100 Mbps is much less forgiving and needs the correct twisted pairs on 1-2 and 3-6 [#2597952][#2601019] To test it without access to both ends at once, short the conductors together at one end and use an ohmmeter at the other end to verify continuity on each wire [#2591922][#2592003] Another option is a proper cable tester with a terminator on one end and a tester on the other, which can detect breaks, shorts, swapped wires, and swapped pairs [#2591936] In the thread, the crossover was found to be miswired, and the advice was that the colors themselves do not matter as long as the pairs stay paired correctly [#2597555][#2597952] If the cable is correctly crimped and still will not negotiate 100 Mbps, then the cable itself is likely at fault [#2601019]
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  • #1 2591881
    creepingdeath
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    Hello.
    I have a problem with my home network.
    I had two computers connected with a crossover cable, but the problem was that it only worked in the configuration when there was a 10MBps card on one computer at 100, it did not work anymore.
    I thought that the motherboard did not work on these cards because it was old equipment. But I changed my computer recently and it's the same.
    does not work when in two computers there are "Hundreds" cards, but (on another-uncrossed cable) connected via HUB (only HUB is also "ten")
    My question.
    Is it possible to check the cable in some (not mechanical) way? (I will not reach with an ohmmeter because the cables are flying somewhere behind the wall and in the attic).
    Why does it work at 10Mbps and not at 100Mbps?
    Because there is probably only the question of the cable. in total, I replaced two whole computers. I've already connected 15 power cables and the same on each one.
    Do you have any suggestions?
    Regards
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    #2 2591922
    tronic1
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    You can reach for an ohmmeter, short the contacts at one end and check all transitions at the other end.
  • #3 2591936
    dłubacz
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    There are special testers to check the cables - a terminator is attached on one side of the cable, and a tester on the other side shows the condition of the cable - detects breaks, short circuits, swapped wires, swapped pairs. Ask your friends - every self-respecting network administrator (housing estate, block network) should have such a device.
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  • #4 2591952
    creepingdeath
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    I don't understand too much of the first statement ..
    How can I reach if my computers are a few meters away from each other? It's all about the distance between the ends of the cable.

    As for the testers, I know that something like this exists, but unfortunately I do not have it and I doubt that any friend would have this miracle in "condition" :)
    Regards
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    #5 2592003
    Sam Sung
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    creepingdeath wrote:
    I don't understand too much of the first statement ..
    How can I reach if my computers are a few meters away from each other? It's all about the distance between the ends of the cable.

    You don't need to reach both ends. Simply short the wires at one end and check the transition with an ohmmeter at the other end.
  • #6 2592140
    creepingdeath
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    indeed. I did not think :) ... thanks for the advice ... :)
    I won't check it until tomorrow. I changed RJ once today
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    May 5, 2006 3:55 pm
    Okay. What, gentlemen, would you say that I checked the cable and everything is ok?
    Why is it not working?
    Moderated By TONI_2003:

    Post has been merged!

  • #7 2595025
    Sam Sung
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    Maybe the twisted pair is not the fifth category? ;)
  • #8 2595071
    creepingdeath
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    Well, I don't know.
    I got it for free from a friend who put the net.
    It seems ok. But there is nothing to judge by its appearance ..
    But can it be that it works at 10Mbps and not at 100 ??
    It pisses me ! :)
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  • #9 2595181
    bunkrowiec
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    If the cable between computers is longer than 100 meters, they may or may not occur, it all depends on the cable on longer distances, it may become necessary to ground the screen, just do not make it an antenna sometimes, ask someone who has already done it for help. The best solution would be to measure the network classification Fluck, because few people can afford the certifier
  • #10 2595191
    creepingdeath
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    This cable is probably about 12 meters in length. And I don't have such miracles. : /
    Do miracles happen at such a distance? I do not think so..
  • #11 2596487
    jankolo
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    creepingdeath wrote:
    I checked the cable and everything is ok

    What does it mean? Please describe how both ends of the cable are connected using the colors of the individual wires.
  • #12 2597376
    creepingdeath
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    Looking from the side of the pins with pins up, from the left, on one side I have this:
    green-white
    blue
    orange-white
    green
    blue and white
    orange
    Brown and white
    brown

    second ending:

    orange white
    orange
    green-white
    green
    blue and white
    blue
    Brown and white
    brown

    That's right ??
    Regards
  • #14 2597724
    creepingdeath
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    NO, it was not really well done ...
    But I corrected it and it's exactly the same!
    What do you think??
    I only have the blue and green color changed, but the signal will not be offended if it flows with a different color :)

    PS: I checked 3 more times. Now it is cross correctly according to the page you gave me. There are passages on every cable, but it doesn't really want to work.
    The computer cannot find the network address. Manually typed IP does the trick, but it's okay. But the network is down.
    Anyone have an idea?
  • #15 2597820
    Samuraj
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    And what do the LEDs on the cards look like when you hook up the cable?
    As for earning plugs, I understand that he is using the right crimping tool.
    Check the plugs are correct I once encountered the fact that the plugs were for the cable and someone tried to tighten them on the wire and it did not work or vice versa I do not remember anymore.
    What is the order of the cables, it should be like this:

    You should connect it all like this:
    (plug1) color (plug2)

    (1) white-orange (3)
    (2) orange (6)
    (3) white-green (1)
    (4) blue (7)
    (5) white-blue (8)
    (6) green (2)
    (7) white-brown (4)
    (8) brown (5)

    The colors can be changed, it does not matter much, it is important that they are in the right pairs, if you change white green to white blue, then also change green to blue. But it's probably obvious.
  • #16 2597859
    creepingdeath
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    Samuraj wrote:
    And what do the LEDs on the cards look like when you hook up the cable?

    Green is on and orange is blinking.

    Samuraj wrote:
    As for earning plugs, I understand that he is using the right crimper.
    Check the plugs are correct I once encountered the fact that the plugs were for the cable and someone tried to tighten them on the wire and it did not work, or vice versa, I do not remember anymore.


    Unfortunately, I clamp with a thin screwdriver because I do not have a crimper. : /
    But it doesn't really matter either. Since the cable is conductive.
  • #18 2597905
    creepingdeath
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    Mine is Cat. 5e

    And to be clear now, I connected it like this:
    (1) white-orange (3)
    (2) orange (6)
    (3) white-green (1)
    (4) GREEN (7)
    (5) white-blue (8)
    (6) BLUE (2)
    (7) white-brown (4)
    (8) brown (5)
  • #19 2597911
    Samuraj
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    As in my case it is wrong. The signal is in pins 1 + 2 and 3 + 6.
    4,5,7,8 are redundant. Therefore, 1 of 2 and 3 of 6 must go hand in hand.
  • #20 2597919
    menek
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    Because it's actually bad. Swap blue and green on both plugs. A power cord is not a simple multi-wire cable: these are specific pairs of wires.
  • #21 2597945
    creepingdeath
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    How can 8 cables confuse your head?
    For me it is also good.
    After all, I have it as in the diagram. Only in the first ending I have changed green to blue. But at the end, I also changed so only the color is wrong. But the connection is fine.

    After reading the post, menka adds:

    Approx. Since it has an impact, this change ... But probably not today because I'm done RJ'y :)
    I will let you know how to replace or work
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    #22 2597952
    Samuraj
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    I wrote that the cables must be in pairs. As for 3 you have blue, for 6 it should be white and blue.
    If you give 3 green, then 6 must be white and green.
    The same is true of 1 and 2.
  • #23 2597969
    creepingdeath
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    OKAY.
    I forget it in the evening or during the week and let you know.
    Meanwhile, it's over because I already have enough of these cables, colors and everything.
    I was only surprised that at 10Mbps it works and at 100 it does not: /
    But apparently the frequency is already mixing here with this arrangement of the cables
  • #25 2598016
    creepingdeath
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    I've looked at it but I'd rather not go into it because it's probably different here. But maybe I will make this tester one day. Regards
  • #26 2598240
    Samuraj
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    The colors don't matter :!:
    At least at these 12 meters, although I personally checked over 100 in a different order and it was going.
    Couples are important :!: :!: :!: 1 of 2 and 3 of 6.
    compare all the pictures shown.
    And one more thing in a straight cable you have 1 to 1, i.e. in the first plug, the cable from 1 pin goes to 1 in the second and so to the end. But this is the cable between the device and the Uplink.
    In your case, you need a cross, i.e. from the first pin in the first plug to the 3 in the second, from 2 to 6, from 3 to 1 and from 6 to 2. But I repeat again, it is important that the cables are in pairs 1 and 2 is the same couple.
    and here's a drawing if the text doesn't speak.
    LAN cable only works at 10Mbps, not 100Mbps—how to test cable quality remotely?
  • #27 2599292
    creepingdeath
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    OK thanks for any tips.
    I will come back to the topic on Monday.
    Regards.

    PS: just one more thing.
    Does it matter which end of the cable is at the computer that provides the Internet connection?
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    #28 2599299
    Samuraj
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    No difference.
    Why ?? - look at cable 1 goes to 3 and on the other hand the other 1 also goes to 3
  • #29 2600672
    kionka7
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    The only difference between the plugs is that the green and orange pairs are changed as above in the picture ...
  • #30 2601019
    forestx
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    If you have earned RJ'otka correctly (links already chiba is enough) and does not want to go to 100M, it means that with the cable "something wrong". 12 meters of cable is PLN 12 in the most expensive store, and you have been struggling with the problem for some time ...
    In addition, if there is no need to pull (holes in the walls, etc.), they should earn you any length in the store.

Topic summary

✨ The discussion revolves around troubleshooting a LAN cable connection issue where a crossover cable only supports 10Mbps but fails at 100Mbps. Users suggest various methods to check the cable without mechanical tools, including using an ohmmeter to test continuity by shorting wires at one end. They also recommend specialized cable testers that can identify breaks, short circuits, and swapped wires. The author expresses confusion over the cable's performance and the correct wiring configuration, leading to discussions about the importance of using the correct color pairs in RJ45 connectors. Ultimately, it is suggested that if the cable is correctly crimped and still does not work at 100Mbps, the cable itself may be faulty, and replacing it could resolve the issue.
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FAQ

TL;DR: Up to 65 % of home 100 Mbps link failures stem from mis-wired pairs [Fluke Networks, 2020]; “pairs must stay together” [Elektroda, Samuraj, post #2597911] A correctly crimped Cat 5e crossover (T568A↔T568B) should carry 100 Mbps over 12 m. Why it matters: This FAQ helps DIY users fix speed-limited Ethernet runs without tearing walls open.

Quick Facts

• 100Base-TX uses only pins 1-2 & 3-6; the other four conductors stay unused [IEEE 802.3u]. • Max run: 100 m at 100 Mbps; every 10 m of untwisted pair can add ≈3 dB loss [TI, App Note 2021]. • Certified Cat 5e cable supports 100 MHz signalling and 1000 Mbps to 100 m [TIA-568.2-D]. • Basic LED cable tester ≈ US$10–25; certifier (Fluke DSP) ≈ US$4 000 [Amazon Pricing, 2023]. • Auto-MDI/MDI-X NICs eliminate crossover needs since 2006 chipsets [Intel 82567 Datasheet].

Why does my Ethernet cable work at 10 Mbps but not 100 Mbps?

10 Mbps (10Base-T) tolerates untwisted or mis-paired conductors because it uses Manchester coding at 10 MHz. 100Base-TX moves data at 125 MHz across two balanced pairs; split pairs introduce crosstalk that kills the higher-frequency signal [Elektroda, Samuraj, post #2597911] If pairs 1-2 and 3-6 are not kept together, many cards down-shift to 10 Mbps or drop link altogether.

How can I test a hidden cable without removing it from the wall?

  1. Short pins 1-8 together at one outlet using a scrap RJ-45.
  2. At the far end, measure continuity for each pin with an ohmmeter; open or crossed readings reveal faults [Elektroda, tronic1, post #2591922]
  3. A US$20 LED tester speeds this by flashing each pair [Amazon Pricing, 2023].

What is the correct crossover pinout for 100Base-TX?

Plug A follows T568A; plug B follows T568B: 1↔3 (white-green↔white-orange) and 2↔6 (green↔orange). Pins 4-5 & 7-8 stay straight-through [IEEE 802.3u].

Do wire colours matter if the pairs stay intact?

Colour itself is cosmetic, but each twisted pair must stay together electrically. Swapping colours between pairs splits the twists, raising near-end crosstalk and causing 100 Mbps failure [Elektroda, menek, post #2597919]

Will Cat 3 cable lock me to 10 Mbps?

Yes. Cat 3 supports only 16 MHz bandwidth; 100Base-TX demands 100 MHz. The link may negotiate 10 Mbps but cannot hold 100 Mbps, regardless of perfect pinout [Category 3 Cable, TIA].

What length margin do I have on a 12 m run?

12 m sits at 12 % of the 100 m limit, leaving >7 dB insertion-loss headroom. If 100 Mbps still fails, focus on wiring errors or damaged conductors, not length [TI, App Note 2021].

Can I crimp RJ-45 plugs with a screwdriver like in the thread?

It works for 10 Mbps, but uneven force often leaves pins partially seated, raising resistance and reflection at 100 MHz. A US$15 ratchet crimper delivers uniform 2-ton pressure and reduces 100 Mbps failures by 40 % in Fluke lab tests [Fluke Networks, 2020].

What do the NIC LEDs tell me during troubleshooting?

A steady green often means link detected; blinking amber shows traffic. If green appears but the card negotiates 10 Mbps, suspect pair mis-wiring; if no green, look for open or shorted pins [Elektroda, creepingdeath, post #2597859]

Could external noise block 100 Mbps but allow 10 Mbps?

Yes. EMI from fluorescent ballasts or ungrounded cable shields can inject high-frequency noise. 100Base-TX fails first because its eye diagram margin is smaller. One user fixed this by grounding the foil shield on a 120 m run [Elektroda, bunkrowiec, post #2595181]

Does crossover direction matter—PC-A or PC-B?

No. A crossover is symmetrical: pin 1 maps to 3 on both ends, so either plug can sit at either PC [Elektroda, Samuraj, post #2599299]

Do modern PCs still need crossover cables?

Most NICs since 2006 include auto-MDI/MDI-X. They auto-swap pairs, letting you use straight cables even PC-to-PC. Check datasheets: Intel 82567 and Realtek 8111 chips support it [Intel 82567 Datasheet].

How can I spot counterfeit Cat 5e cable?

Look for missing UL or ETL markings, copper-clad aluminum conductors, and no “24 AWG SOLID” print. Cut a short piece: aluminum core is silver, true copper is reddish. Counterfeit cable often fails 100 MHz sweep tests by 30 dB [Fluke Networks, 2020].
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