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Replacing Damaged Fuses Before the Meter: Handling Faults & Seal Breaking Costs Explained

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  • #1 3461681
    niedzwiedz77
    Level 17  
    Hello
    Namely, in the morning I found out that I had a fault in front of the meter, so I called the power company and described the symptoms that my neighbor has electricity from the same pole, I don't have it. The lady said that my fuse in front of the meter is damaged and that they can come to me the day after tomorrow because they have a lot of failures but if it turns out that it is actually a fuse, the plant will charge me for an unjustified call, so I ask the woman if I can remove this fault myself "I just have to report that I am breaking the seal and someone will come and seal it for PLN 29" so, continuing the topic, I ask how I have to remove this fault so as not to break the seal and not to call electricians. The lady was unable to answer my question.
    So the question is how is it that I have fuses that are mine but to replace them I have to pay PLN 29 to the plant?

    I will add that after breaking the seal, it turned out that the fuses are good and the wire from the pole is burnt.
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  • #2 3461702
    waldekel
    Level 28  
    If the wire from the pole is burned, you should not pay anything.
  • #3 3461870
    notoron
    Level 12  
    No one has won in the power industry yet, unless it has its own power supply, for my part I can say that these vertical fuses are actually sealed and the fitter's arrival is paid (I have 25.40). If you break the blombe and then tighten it with pliers, you can pay about PLN 150 at the next inspection, on the other hand, these fuses contain the power supplied to the recipient and no one can change these fuses or rewire them because the bigger the fuse, the greater the power and what hence the higher price of energy. It is always best to call the power engineers and the reason for the lack of electricity is to give the statement: "Ma'am, there is no electricity at my place" and they must come ....
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  • #4 3462051
    Pawel1812
    Level 26  
    I do not recommend anyone to tighten seals with pliers - it shows. In addition, aluminum seals cannot be bent. There are other methods - you have to think - I will not write, because the post will go to the trash and I will get a warning. Break the seals by cutting the wire, and figure it out.
    Before breaking the seals, carefully examine the cables and check with the indicator whether there is a phase in the neutral, if so, then the neutral is definitely broken. If you have a ladder high enough, check if there is voltage in the wire from the pole.
    It is your responsibility to maintain the wires from the cable connector, or at the overhead line from the connector to the building. No other fault will be removed by free energy. But if the fault was after the winds and nothing in the installation looks like a short, then it may be a damaged connector at the building in the case of an overhead line.
  • #5 3463480
    ekaand
    Level 22  
    Quote:
    If you have a ladder high enough, check if there is voltage in the wire from the pole.

    Pawel1812 you wonder what you write? Maybe he still has a hand to grab the wire?
    As for who is responsible for maintaining the connection, it depends on how the boundary of the parties is defined in the contract. The best solution here is to call the power engineers. If you have a burnt wire on the pole, you will probably only pay for the seal you broke.
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  • #6 3464715
    stomat
    Level 38  
    The pre-meter fuse may blow ONLY due to the recipient's fault. Therefore, the costs of its replacement and resealing should be borne by the recipient. If you replace it yourself, you incur the cost of resealing. There is no other way. I don't understand your irritation. You blew your fuse and the supplier is supposed to be a good samaritan and come to you for free and seal. Or maybe you would like to drive around people for free and fix them.
  • #7 3468743
    and61
    Level 27  
    stomat wrote:
    The pre-meter fuse may blow ONLY due to the recipient's fault. .

    not necessarily, I got high due to the fault of the fuse clamp not being tightened, and it was the fault of a specialist in the area,
  • #8 3471837
    stomat
    Level 38  
    The wires, fuse base and terminals are your property and were tightened by the electrician you hired. It is possible that he was also an employee of the energy supplier. However, he did the installation himself.
  • #9 3474337
    and61
    Level 27  
    stomat wrote:
    It is possible that he was also an employee of the energy supplier. However, he did the installation himself.

    it was an employee of the energy emergency service, which came to my call due to a large voltage drop, and if it wasn't for the seals, I would have done the replacement of the pre-meter excess and the wiring myself and would not have bothered them :D
  • #10 3475941
    stomat
    Level 38  
    You mistook effect for cause. The cause of the large voltage drop was the loose connection of the terminal by the electrician doing the installation for you. YOUR Clamp. So in general, due to the damage to YOUR installation, the energy supplier had to send a fitter to you, incur travel costs and seals. And for this he pays a lump sum of about PLN 30. I don't see anything strange here.
    If it wasn't for the seal, everyone would replace the pre-counter surplus on their own. For a bigger one!
  • #11 3476046
    macha
    Level 19  
    What are you arguing about?
    As easy as a hundred meters of wire in your pocket.
    It belongs to the power company, including the protection against the meter. Even if the installation was done by an electrician employed by the recipient, the energy specialist who came to put the seal is responsible for the correct execution, because he is obliged to check whether everything is done correctly.
  • #12 3476477
    domelfm
    Level 16  
    I don't get you somehow.. :) Installations are made in the following way: pre-counter protection, meter, and then all the rest. And no seals are used for pre-meter protection in the boxes :) And on overhead lines, if this is the case, the replacement is the responsibility of the user and there should be no seals because the pre-meter protection is also a main circuit breaker and it must be possible to disconnect it, e.g. during maintenance work related to the installation. In other words, it's hard in this profession and I replace such fuses myself and no one complained to me that he would get a penalty from energy :) And I'll add what my colleague said TO THE COUNTER EVERYTHING BELONG TO THE PLANT AND THEIR BROCHA SO THAT EVERYTHING WILL BE AS IT SHOULD :) If you have s25 fuses at the entrance at home, you can deny yourself and pay them nothing :) Because after all, it would work and not the pre-counter fuse. For home lines, 25A is most often used :)
  • #13 3476786
    macha
    Level 19  
    Pre-meter protection depends, among other things, on the power for which you have a contract with the power company, I have, for example, 50A. It has been like this since I had my own company, now it is useful because I have a high power consumption.

    domelfm you are right most often 25A is used but it is sealed together with the meter so that there are no thefts as the main switch you have security behind the meter
  • #14 3479020
    and61
    Level 27  
    in terms of clarification, I live in a new block, C20 in front of the meter and the meter were installed by employees from RE, they sealed not a box upstairs but access to overflow and meter terminals as my friend wrote waves
    macha wrote:
    ......so that there are no thieves as the main switch you have security behind the meter

    and as it is their property they removed the failures for free
  • #15 3479096
    Enpro
    Level 22  
    No installation inside the building belongs to ZE and no one does it, repairs inside the building belong to the building administrator and he is responsible for repairs, and ZE seals and charges the administrator of the facility.
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  • #17 3479631
    macha
    Level 19  
    Currently, meters and protection against meters are mounted in boxes, so-called blocks on the border of a private plot or in a block inside. Once they were all mounted inside and that's why the energy company repairs even inside, i.e. up to the meter, because it is their property and they charge a lot of money for it, so every recipient has it guaranteed in the contract. Only when they fail, you have to wait for them because they have another serious failure and all fitters are on this failure, so you take an electrician and pay him and they will only come check and put a seal.
  • #18 3480285
    Anonymous
    Anonymous  
  • #19 3480838
    Zbych034
    Level 39  
    I've seen sealed so-called esys. How deprived you are, you can turn it on again without calling a specialist from the power plant. Maybe install one on the occasion and you won't have to call them again
    Pos
  • #20 3480898
    macha
    Level 19  
    In my area, they used to be installed and later when I wanted to have them, they said that they could not be installed because the regulations had changed. So before you install, find out because you will incur unnecessary costs.

Topic summary

The discussion revolves around the issue of replacing damaged fuses located before the electricity meter. A user reported a fault where their electricity was cut off, while a neighbor remained connected. The power company indicated that the user's fuse was damaged and that they would charge for an unjustified call if the issue was not related to the fuse. The user inquired about the process of replacing the fuse without breaking the seal and incurring additional costs. Responses highlighted that the responsibility for maintaining the connection lies with the user, and breaking the seal incurs a fee for resealing. Various opinions were shared regarding the legality and safety of self-repair, with some suggesting that the power company should handle repairs for free if the fault was due to their equipment. The conversation also touched on the differences in regulations among various power companies in Poland.
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