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Best Tools for Making Wall Furrows for Electrical Cables: Chisel, Wall Chaser, or Grinder?

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  • #1 3513677
    kedar
    Level 11  
    My next question:

    What do you make furrows in the walls for cables?
    Do you have any special devices or just a hammer and chisel?
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  • #2 3513766
    Anonymous
    Anonymous  
  • #3 3513802
    Nstan
    Level 31  
    1.With a hammer and chisel
    2. Diamond disc grinder
    3. Milling cutter on a large angle grinder with an additional trolley (driving on two wheels) - weight disadvantage and easier to make furrows vertically than horizontally under the ceiling.

    However, I try to use the connections between the brick and the block in place of the mortar.
  • #4 3513874
    marcino2000
    Level 24  
    a pneumatic "kango" hammer, a tinker and a hammer, a grinder with a diamond disc, or special equipment with a wall chaser.
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  • #5 3513965
    robokop
    VIP Meritorious for electroda.pl
    Hammer "Celma" :) with a specialized cutter, the so-called furrow chaser. The brick, hollow brick and plaster are going brilliantly. Concrete is just like my colleagues mentioned - a grinder with a diamond disc.
  • #6 3514578
    kedar
    Level 11  
    Thanks a lot

    The idea of a grinder, two notches and a cutter appeals to me the most :)

    What is the fastest technique (in your experience) to make siporex furrows?
  • #7 3514987
    Anonymous
    Anonymous  
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  • #8 3514991
    kleki
    Level 28  
    As in the plaster itself, I have a 500g locksmith's hammer with a slightly sharpened face on one side. Sometimes I hit with a hammer and that's enough. In other materials - flex + diamond, then tinker.
  • #9 3515438
    lechm56
    Moderator
    In the past, I used a hammer and an ax for concrete blocks and plaster.
    Greetings. lechm56 :D
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  • #10 3515682
    pablo^
    Level 11  
    Do you not plaster the walls? I usually lay the YDYp wires on hollow bricks and the crew plaster. If you need to punch something into the siporex, then after trying the above-mentioned techniques, the fastest way is with a bosh drill (set for drilling and chiselling), a drill bit 12 or larger, at an angle, I drill into the wall and straighten it with turns, and so on by another centimeters. The grooves may not be the most beautiful, but quickly made, the method leaves less dust than this sander without a vacuum cleaner of course. But in buildings in a rough or renovated (unused) state, the dust left by the drill is not so troublesome, unlike the dust left by the grinder (this one is much finer). Good luck
  • #11 3516412
    DonRomano
    Level 34  
    PABLO - what a professionalism !!!
    For me, you wouldn't have carved a dozen centimeters, I hate bunglers.
    Greetings.
  • #12 3516664
    kleki
    Level 28  
    In plaster, it goes anyhow. Who's in hand.
    :-)
    Stairs start around concrete etc.
    As for flex, if I have the option (later plastering / smoothing / painting ...) - I soak the wall with water. There is no such hustle and bustle. You have to wait 10 minutes for it to soak up a bit and drive.
    ;-)
  • #13 3516721
    ANDYW6
    Level 24  
    I saw a guy (an amateur) carve "beautiful" furrows in siporex by hand. The cables were completely hidden in siporku. Future plasterers applied 3 cm of plaster and hell took the "beautiful" layout. And the guy worked so hard.
  • #14 3516756
    kedar
    Level 11  
    ANDYW6 wrote:
    I saw a guy (an amateur) carve "beautiful" furrows in siporex by hand. The cables were completely hidden in siporku. Future plasterers applied 3 cm of plaster and hell took the "beautiful" layout. And the guy worked so hard.


    Now in my apartment I have in one room wires for wall lamps, about 1 cm under the plaster (3x1.5 cable), two years after painting, you can clearly see where the cable runs on the wall. So an "amateur" siporex forging under 3cm plaster deserves a medal for me :)
  • #15 3516768
    ANDYW6
    Level 24  
    But you have one plus, you won't drill into the cable if you hang something.
  • #16 3517583
    leboobel
    Level 2  
    I like diamond flex the most, it doesn't hurt. Of course, wearing a dust mask and glasses - otherwise I do not approach, such a deviation. Makita for forging with a special attachment is also good, but it is good to do flex cutting beforehand. The fact that you won't do it with someone who has beautiful carpets ... the trouble is terrible. Nobody does it by hand, except in ytong, because I can't imagine forging in reinforced concrete ...
  • #17 3517763
    andy1955
    Automation specialist
    recently I was working with a special grooving machine.
    It is basically an angle grinder with two diamond discs.
    The distance between them is adjustable (groove width).
    Everything on a trolley with adjustable milling depth and connection
    large, industrial vacuum cleaner (vacuum cleaner included).
    Milling in plaster - quite easy.
    Milling in concrete - I do not recommend using this machine on a daily basis :D (unless someone likes to do exercise sports)
  • #18 3540975
    pablo^
    Level 11  
    DonRomano, what's that comment? I wrote what it can be done, why don't you deny the ax described above? I think that you are exaggerating, the furrow may not have sharp edges, but it does not mean that I put the wires diagonally. And if the plaster thickness is right, the YDYp cable lies in this layer and nothing breaks. The methods with the angle grinder are ok. DonRomano, see what buildings I mean. You know, no one has complained to me about my installation yet, I am trying to predict how other installations can be run, e.g. what, how can curtain rods, cabinets, etc. be hung. ? Please read you carefully, and if you intend to offend someone, write a private message.

Topic summary

The discussion centers around techniques for creating furrows in walls for cable installation. Various methods are shared, including the use of a hammer and chisel, diamond disc grinders, and specialized tools like wall chasers and pneumatic hammers. Users emphasize the importance of the wall material, with concrete and plaster requiring different approaches. The most efficient methods mentioned include using a grinder with segmented discs for cleaner cuts and a wall chaser for speed. Some participants also discuss the practicality of using a Bosch drill for quick furrow creation in siporex, noting the balance between speed, quality, and dust management. The conversation highlights the need for proper tools and techniques to achieve aesthetically pleasing and functional installations.
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