Setting Up Satellite Dish: HotBird & Astra, Ferguson FX-6600 Tuner, Golden Interstar GI-201 LNB

Hello!

I am currently setting up a satellite dish. Generally, I want to set up the antenna on Hotbird.
I have a Ferguson FX-6600 tuner and a Golden Interstar Universal Single LNB GI-201 Platinum X converter.

When setting up the antenna, of course, I chose the right angles. In the tuner, in the antenna configuration, I chose the Hotbird satellite, converter power supply - on, automatic search for transponders of the given satellite. Converter type - Universal LNB 1. Network search - turned on (searches for a given transponder, as well as other ones belonging to the network).
Then, I checked the signal strength and quality on weak, medium and strong signal strengths from the transponders, respectively. And so, on the transponder 11881 V (strong) Strength 100%, Quality approx. 80%, similar on the medium (12303V), Strength 100%, quality approx. 70%, on the weak (12597 V) approx. 50%. Then I chose Search Channels and it didn't find any channel.
Therefore, I chose Astra1 as the satellite and did not change other settings, except for the transponder on 11720H (signal strength and quality very similar to that above for a strong signal). Here I was able to find about 30 FTA channels (only those I gave to choose), and about 15 radio stations. I was quite surprised that when searching for channels, transponders from 1-44 had 0% quality, while those above had good quality, about 70%. On transponders from 1-44, he did not find any channels, while on those above, he searched for normal channels.

I thought to myself, isn't it because the converter works all the time on the upper band and does not switch to the lower band automatically? In the options I have a 0-22 kHz signal to choose from, but it is set to auto, but it is not possible to change this option.

What am I doing wrong when searching for these channels? Do I have any parameters from the ones I gave incorrectly set?

What do you think about the fact that with good signals on Hotbird it finds nothing and on Astra it finds nothing (without changing the antenna position)? Does it mean that Hotbird broadcast most of the channels, eg FTA, on the lower frequency? Is it possible to receive the signal from both satellites without changing the position of the antenna? Unless it's a completely different satellite, I haven't found any Polish channels, can you check it somehow?

Thanks for the answer
greetings

Peef wrote:

What do you think about the fact that with good signals on Hotbird it finds nothing and on Astra it finds nothing (without changing the antenna position)? Does it mean that Hotbird broadcast most of the channels, eg FTA, on the lower frequency? Is it possible to receive the signal from both satellites without changing the position of the antenna? Unless it's a completely different satellite, I haven't found any Polish channels, can you check it somehow?

Thanks for the answer
greetings

In short, your antenna is set to Astra and it is natural that the tuner will not find any channel with HB. The fact that it shows some percentages with HB does not mean anything, it just repeats some frequencies on different satellites and sometimes the tuners show nonsense. How do you want to watch channels from HB is move the antenna to this satellite.
In addition, restore it to its factory settings because you could have changed something unnecessarily.

Answering part of the question, you can watch the channels from two satellites on one plate using the so-called squint, one central converter for a hotbird, the other next to the right looking from behind the plate and a disec switch
good luck

Thanks for the answers!

I wanted to make sure that the signal quality on the Astra for transponders 1-44 is 0% (strength 30%, i.e. as if there was no signal), and on those above about 80% is caused by some incorrect settings or hardware may not support something?
Because I understand that in the vicinity of these transponders there is a transition between the lower band and the upper band controlled by a 22kHz signal?
Are the settings I wrote down correct? LNB power of the converter should be on?
When setting up the antenna, it is worth checking the signal on other specific transponders (broken down by signal strength)? Do you have any list of recommended transponders on which it is worth tuning the antenna? :)

Thanks

The lnb power supply must be turned on, I do not know this tuner for sure, but the easiest way is to connect the old analog tuner with, for example, tvn and hotbird set up within a few minutes, set the best reception and the digital receiver should also flash without a problem

Thanks for the answer!

I would rather put everything on a digital tuner. I think I will do as you say, i.e. I will take a Polish channel from Hotbird and tune the antenna to it.

And do you know a list of transponders, the signal to which is worth tuning the antenna to in order to have the best signal on a large number of transponders of a specific satellite?

Btw, is there a rule that, for example, Polish channels are on one or two transponders or, for example, 10 Polish FTA channels on Hotbird can be on 10 transponders? :)

Thanks

You're up to too much.
Just turn on Vive Polska and set the best possible signal quality. If this channel works well, the rest will not be a problem.

I have a similar problem myself and my friend has programmed a tuner and added a list of transponders from the page ... I'm going ... and I was looking for a renewal, there were a few channels

Thanks for the answers!

I wanted to know how to read channel settings, eg Viva from the list on
LyngSat .

For Ferguson, the following setting parameters must be entered:
Transponder, Video PID, Audio PID, PCR PID.

The following parameters are given on LyngSat for Viva:
Transponder: 11075 V, TP128 is also given - what does it mean?
In the tuner, as I look, an example setting is given, for example: 4194 / V / 4420 (this is the third position should be 128?).

I still don't know how to set these PIDs. SR-FEC SID-VPID -> 5 164, NID-TID Audio -> 96 Po is given. So for VivaPolska there is Video PID 164, Audio PID 96? And PCR PID 5? How to read this data?

Should I use a different page for channel setup at all?

Thanks

Quote:

For Ferguson, the following setting parameters must be entered:
Transponder, Video PID, Audio PID, PCR PID.

Transporder: 11075
Polarization: V (vertical)
Video PID: 164
Audio PID: 96
PCR PID: 164

Here are the specifics (I personally think this site is better) than LyngSat.
http://pl.kingofsat.net/pack-polsat.php

The transponder number (e.g. 128) has no effect. Names could be used, but who would remember?

The easiest way to find "VIVA" is to enter the manual search mode, select the 11075 V transponder and find all the channels that are broadcast on it.

Thanks for the answer!

However, I can't set the antenna to HotBird all the time. Choosing the transponder to be set as I wrote before: 11881 V I have almost max quality.
I checked found channels on KingofSat and they are from Sirius4 (4.5E). Then I turned the antenna slightly to the left (looking south).
I have a SatFinder meter. I set it to show 1 when there is no signal (the tuner has 30% strength, 0% quality). By turning the antenna, the signal disappeared from Sirius (standing behind the antenna I turn left), and then it rose again to a very good (this transponder all the time). So I searched for all Blind Scan channels, setting them to HotBird satellite. However, he found all the channels from Sirius for me again.
So I uploaded Polsat's list from the tuner (provided by Ferguson). I chose the radio. On Jedynka I have 100% strength and max quality. 30% (the rest of the channels mostly have 0% quality and a strength of 30%). I left it like this because turning the antenna sideways only reduces the signal.
I made a new BlindScan with this antenna setup - step 4, normal speed. He searched for all the channels from Sirius again, and he did not find a transponder from this Radio One at all.
What am I doing incorrectly because I don't know anymore? It looks as if both HB and Sirius were in one direction Is the setting of the antenna direction according to The sun is reasonably accurate (ie I saw a calculator at what time the satellite coincides with the sun)?
Could you please provide some strong HB transponders? Or other satellites with Polish programs (probably not on Sirius)? It also seems to me that I can't find Astra either, and these satellites are quite close to each other?
Btw, I still had something like that, that I had a strength of 100%, like HB, the quality of 10%, so for a few seconds and it dropped completely to 0. I do all tests and scans with the connected meter only suppressed, but it probably does not affect the reception?
Also, when I give automatic channel search and choose, for example, HotBird or Astra, it still finds these channels from Sirius (regardless of the choice)
Can 2-3 degrees of antenna elevation play a role (I have about 33 and it should be 30)?
Could it be that, even if I visibly change the direction of the antenna, I have at least half of Sirius channels (about 250 TV and 80 or more radio) for each of them.

Thanks

Currently, I have the antenna set to Astra2 because I cannot set up HotBird all the time :)

By the way, I loaded the list of programs provided with the tuner (I chose Polsat channels).

Having an antenna on Astra2 (I have about 500 channels), going to channels from the Polsat list, e.g. Zet radio or a few TV programs, I have 100% signal strength, and 50-70% quality, but I cannot hear anything in the case of radio, and There is no picture and sound at all for TV channels (all FTA channels).

I don't really understand why this is so? Am I really not getting a signal from these programs? Is the tuner reading something?

By the way, by setting the signal to a strong HB transponder, e.g. 11881V, I have a very good signal, changing the transponder to a strong one, but with a frequency of 10758V there is no signal. Could it be so, can I have something wrong with the converter and its lower frequency range? By the way, when I do a Blind Scan, I usually find 80-90% of transponders in the upper range and 10% in the lower frequency range on the Astra or Sirius. Is that usually the case? :)

Thanks

Tuners all sorts of crap shows, don't worry about it.
Finally, switch the antenna to Hotbird and perform automatic channel search.
If you think about each frequency, you will never set up the antenna.

Hello.
I am asking LAIK for help in the Astra to Hotbird satellite alignment. I have an analog noname tuner and a digit + platter (60cm dish) set by a specialist on the Astre, and I am going to buy a Ferguson FX6600 + TNK.
After a short reading of the forum, I see it blatantly like this:
-connect the antenna to the tuner
-fire tuner
- set the tuner parameters
-turn the plate approx. 6 degrees to the right
-check the signal
- activate the TNK
-to watch
May it be so easy I am asking for opinions.
THANKS

Everything should be fine. After starting the tuner you will have a board with the signal level, set it to max! Good luck !

It worked without any major problems. So far, everything is fine
Signal Level:
Level + -90
Quality + -80
I think it should be ok

Hello. Searching for programs on Hot Birda, and it is mainly about NTV, I do not catch low frequencies in the vertical polarization. I live in Germany and I am going to buy a package of Polish programs. Is it just a problem of millimeters in the setting and maybe I have to set DiSEqc accordingly. In the moment I receive all the programs on Astra and Sirius, I will add that I have a flat antenna from the Selfsat company.

Hello again. As I wrote earlier on Hot Birda, I can not receive all channels. I found that if I change the 0 / 22KHz switch from automatic to 22 KHz, it searches for almost all programs for me, but there is no picture. I would advise or a good tip. Thank you in advance and best regards

As an inexperienced self-taught person, my advice is as follows.

Having a satfinder and a decoder at your disposal is extremely simple.

My proven way is:

He manually punches the transponder and all the data of any Astra program and saves it on the first channel, then I do the same with any HotBird FTA. I am set on the 2nd channel. Now I set up the antenna. Sure you will ask why astre, when it comes to HB ?? And because the astra has a stronger and easier signal to catch. I set it on the astra channel and initially set the antenna. I am looking gently until I have a signal from asters. Regulates the elevation angle to obtain the best power and quality. In this way, I have a strong point of reference.
Then I go to the FTA program with HB. And now I gently, even very gently, turn the antenna to the right. Not a whip so as not to catch even a weak signal from HB. As there is already a poor signal, but with HB it is regulated by the right-left and the elevation angle. In this way, it will give a signal that is satisfactory for the program to turn on. Then, a slight correction of the converter's position. I already set up a few antennas and it was always done within 1 hour. The method works for me. Recently, he has been practicing the first zone setup on an analog tuner. It's so convenient that even if you move the antenna too sharply, the image will appear for a fraction of a second. Then you know what you are up to. Then you just need to connect the digital decoder and set the signal. Not valid on which transponder. If you choose 100% of the quality on the strongest, it should not fall below 60% on the weakest.

PEEF when you catch Sirius, while standing behind the antenna, turn it to the left, just remember that you have to move it vertically up slightly, the meter will show you the signal as to the combination in the decoder menu, do not mix there, everything is set for asters, put on a monoblock just say what your name is .
ARCIBAL in my eye you have a damaged 99% converter

Hello.
I am asking you with a problem, maybe someone could help.
I got an N-Ke, connected it and everything is fine, almost.
the point is that it only receives programs from the hotbird, and I would like to have access to those that are on the astra.
I am using an antenna that was previously used for the plus digit.
As I mentioned from HB, it receives elegant, quality details cannot be found - I turned the antenna left and right and nothing. do something need to be set on the coventer? if so how?
below is a photo of the convent settings

Thanks in advance for your help.
greeting, p

When it was well positioned, there was no need to fumble with the antenna.
Check disqc settings.

diseqc set ok
hotbird lnb1 - strength 89%, quality 92%
astra lnb2 - strength 89%, quality 0%

does it make any sense to turn with a konwentem?

Which converter is ASTRA and which is HB because it is very important. You have two handles white and black.

white is HB, black attached

sitetzky wrote:

white is HB, black attached

Hello
This converter is operational?
If it is a digital antenna (it is small), this converter may not see the Astra, it does not "catch" the beams, because its diameter is quite large.

Hello
I have a similar problem, I was switching from Digits (I watched C with HB and A) to NTV and to enjoy the signal from HB and A, I had to make a maneuver by turning the converter (I have a Twin Monoblock) by 180 about its axis - i.e. in the main holder of the converter mounting . All in all, I never had a problem with aligning the antenna, I always had a strong signal on both satellites. After this treatment, I see HB and A on NTV. Today I just took out the old C + decoder, because I want to install it on the plot and the problem has returned - surely to check the tuner I will have to fight the converter again - I will add that all the time I pay for C, so the card should be active. Cyfra works on fergusonie fx 6600 and the max signal is now 30%. I messed up the antenna settings a bit in the menu but it is not in a rare configuration.

Diller write clearer because NTV or C HB and A say nothing and no one will answer guesses.
What do you see, I don't know.

I had the antenna tuned to HB. I bought a monoblock twin converter and I receive HB and Sirius without turning the antenna. What to do to receive HB and Astra?
Thank you in advance and ask for advice.

What size of the antenna?