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Ferguson AF 5018 CI Antenna Setup: Boosting Signal Quality from 0%, Signal Strength at 92%

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  • #1 3603159
    swirek
    Level 11  
    I know it was on the forum but there are no rare suggestions to solve the problem that would help me.
    For the second day I have been struggling with setting up this antenna.
    Ferguson AF 5018 CI
    I turned the antenna sideways up and down, nothing helps.
    The strength of the signal is affected by the position of the converter, the position of the antenna is almost nothing, I set the strength to 92% (the converter looks at the bottom of the antenna) then I set the antenna according to the steps from the program, from the pages listed, according to satellites at nearby houses, according to the sun. I don't know if there are any other ways. I tried everything I found on the internet and nothing :(
    I will add that I have nowhere to check my fergusonik and I bought it on the Allegro, it was supposed to be 100% functional, but now I don't know myself. Blomba not broken
    I am asking for some advice
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  • #2 3603212
    john_t
    Level 29  
    If the antenna detector "looks" at its bottom, it means that the offset antenna and the angle (vertical elevation) of its orientation are different than in parabolic antennas. It has to be tilted more towards the ground. With gentle up and down movements, we move horizontally "scanning" the sky in search of the station set in the tuner. If that doesn't help, check the cable connection between the detector and tuner.
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  • #3 3603291
    GiGi7
    Level 12  
    Hello with fredki and cheaper fta tuners there are just such troubles. I know from practice that there is also a problem with Polsat tuners. The best solution to this problem is the number + tuners - but I must reserve that only on the original software. So the easiest way, if you have such an opportunity, set it on such equipment. If you do not have any of your friends who will share such equipment with you, then: Search in the options menu, restore to factory settings - the tuner will ask for sure and warn that you will lose data, do not worry, give it ok and then start setting it. It is unknown what is changed, so this operation is advisable. Then, as the previous speaker wrote, if you have an antenna on a vertical wall and you have a scale on the canopy mount, set it to 32-34 degrees as I remember correctly and the vertical should be ok. . Hotbird. If you do not find it, it means that something is wrong with the pawn, so move the pawn up or down as little as possible and then left and right again until it clicks, of course, constantly check the effect of your efforts on the test. If you have a good cable and converter it will be ok ... GREETINGS GiGi7 :D
  • #4 3603612
    Lidzia
    Level 28  
    First set vertically (elevation) you have to choose according to your town and then only the direction I guess you do not have strabismus, I do not write about the eyes now only about the antenna because if you have it, set the diseqc if you do not have it, just turn the antenna here you have the links, how to read and choose settings, elevation and azimuth in calculators
    http://jackysat.prv.pl/
    http://sci.pam.szczecin.pl/~pastupam/satel/az/index.html
    http://www.satkurier.pl/azel/
    http://sci.pam.szczecin.pl/~pastupam/satel/az/zez.html
    http://www.satlex.de/pl/azel_calc.html
    http://sci.pam.szczecin.pl/~pastupam/satel/4lnb.htm
    http://sci.pam.szczecin.pl/~pastupam/satel/index.html
  • #5 3604556
    swirek
    Level 11  
    the strength is 99% after the adjustments and the quality is still 0%
    I tried to move and nothing. 15 minutes ago I got off the roof and the trail hits me because how much can you shoot with; /
    after all, the quality should flicker a little.
    I have restored the factory settings.

    I have strabismus on the air and 2 converters, but I do not have disec / ta for now because I want to pick up from one and only combine with two; / Or maybe ferdki of this type have such tendencies and you need to search for something? Something with the head maybe. The seal is not open and I bought a fergusonika on the Allegro and it is said that it is 100% functional.

    Is it possible to have 99% strength and 0% quality?
  • #6 3604683
    Lidzia
    Level 28  
    Then borrow a second tuner from someone, preferably analog and check, you can have 99% and the quality is about globo if you do not set the diseqc or something with the installation. And with the meter you do these settings? if not, so much analog saves you
  • #7 3604698
    swirek
    Level 11  
    not a measure because I do not have one.
    I am on the roof, my brother in front of the screen and we shout to each other;]

    and such a basic question because I also cannot find the answer; p
    just don't laugh at me, please;]

    what is the difference between this signal quality and strength?

    Strength is what comes to the antenna from the satellite anyway?
    and the quality:> what does it depend on
  • #8 3606133
    jugo007
    Level 11  
    Hello, I also had such a problem, but I accidentally covered my finger with half the converter and it started to walk, then I taped the half of it and it worked for 2 weeks until I finally replaced it with a new one, you can have a converter released, replace or borrow from someone for checking greetings

    Added after 1 [minutes]:

    Hello, I also had such a problem, but I accidentally covered my finger with half the converter and it started to walk, then I taped the half of it and it worked for 2 weeks until I finally replaced it with a new one, you can have a converter released, replace or borrow from someone for checking greetings
  • #9 3606197
    tomarex
    Level 24  
    swirek wrote:

    what is the difference between this signal quality and strength?

    I will explain but not professionally.
    If you catch the signal from the satellite with the same frequency as you check, but with different parameters, it will only show the strength, and the quality will be zero.
    So conclusions:
    - set the antenna on the program that is sure to be broadcast
    - You may have hit the satellite, but the channel list is not up-to-date
    - You hit another satellite
    Realize that there is a different satellite every few degrees, so twitch the antenna :-(
    You have to do it non-nervous, wait a few seconds after each twitch.
    The quality additionally depends on the quality of the individual components of the installation
    But it has been written about it many times. If you followed these rules then you should look for the fault.
  • #10 3606614
    swirek
    Level 11  
    I have 2 converters and both have the same problem; (
    in a moment I go to the roof, take the antenna in my paw and try on.
    Wish me good luck. Thanks for clearing up this signal.
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  • #11 3607250
    WCHPikus
    Level 14  
    Hello!
    This is what happens as you do:
    - box set to another transponder (maybe it's not there anymore or you don't set the antenna to the satellite)

    Check the tuner settings

    Badly positioned antenna or damaged LNB.

    To check the connection of a different box, or preferably an analog, you will find what satellite you have set up.
    It's different without a meter

    greetings
  • #12 3607461
    swirek
    Level 11  
    I should set the elevation angle to 32 *
    but how am I supposed to calculate this angle exactly? from the vertical to the position of the antenna the handle will not allow me to raise the antenna so high; / that's probably something wrong.
  • #13 3608309
    tomarex
    Level 24  
    You can easily set this angle only in the case of:
    - there is a scale in degrees where this angle is adjusted (the condition of the antenna stand is ideally vertical)
    - the manufacturer provided the so-called antenna elevation angle (unfortunately this happens very rarely)
    - the antenna is not offset (very old antennas were parabolic - the converter was centered in relation to the dish)
    In the case of offset antennas, the angle of inclination from the vertical is usually in the order of a dozen or so degrees.
  • #14 3608414
    GiGi7
    Level 12  
    It looks like you have the opposite metal element on which you have the features-Exactly the element that has- one bolt hole and the other hole is such a stretched eyelet for adjustment - YOU MOST POSSIBLE YOU HAVE THESE PART REVERSE MOUNTED. The other side of this part has such teeth touching the mast tube. So try to reverse it and then the graduation will be in a different place. GREETINGS and wish you a lot of warmth when adjusting the weather, you have not come to the right place. GiGi7
  • #15 3608439
    qryszard
    Level 21  
    At 12-30 o'clock the boom of the converter is directed exactly towards the sun. Take only the correction for the geographical position. I am from Włodawa.
    Choose the height experimentally. Check if the polarity in the converter is set correctly. There were converters where the cable connector was directed to the side.
  • #16 3608633
    meloch
    Level 29  
    swirek wrote:
    I should set the elevation angle to 32 *
    but how am I supposed to calculate this angle exactly? from the vertical to the position of the antenna the handle will not allow me to raise the antenna so high; / that's probably something wrong.


    As colleagues wrote above - you are probably receiving a different satellite than you would like.
    If you don't have a meter, you can do this ("na feel"):
    1. Select the TvPolonia program from the list.
    2. Check the signal strength - if it is approx. 90% and there is no image, then:
    3. Rotate the antenna slightly to the left until you get "next%"
    4. If signal strength appears and there is still no image, turn slightly clockwise until successful.
    Your antenna should point like the antennas with the Cyfra + logo.
  • #17 3608663
    swirek
    Level 11  
    I set it up so that it only catches something on a few frequencies:>
    and not at all; (
    what could be the reason?
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  • #18 3608743
    tomarex
    Level 24  
    Well that's something :-)
    - Not accurate antenna alignment (now it requires precision - tightening the yoke, the antenna also shifts)
    - converter twist angle (about 6 ° from the vertical)
    - if you have restored factory settings, add new transponders manually and scan
  • #19 3610694
    swirek
    Level 11  
    what transponders to add because there are a lot of them?
    I uploaded the channel list it is not enough:]

    on the astra I also catch only a few frequencies :(
    on the 2nd convent
  • #20 3611455
    tomarex
    Level 24  
    The point is that there are changes to the satellites every now and then.
    If you have really uploaded the latest list, just scan the satellites to be sure to update any new program changes.
    But if the list, for example, from a year ago, there will be large shortcomings in the transponders (a new HB satellite was launched in the spring of 2006 and then there were very big changes, but I do not remember how it was with Astra).
    If the list is new, then a very precise setting is probably required (you probably receive only the strongest transponders). Unless there is a defect, e.g. lack of one polarity, band, etc.
  • #21 3611545
    swirek
    Level 11  
    Unfortunately, it only catches a few channels and I can't do other channels; (I don't have Polish at all. What can be played I move lightly and it doesn't do anything. Most of the frequencies are of 0% quality and only some of them (about 5 transcoders) are good
    maybe something is wrong in the tuner:>
  • #23 3611987
    mczapski
    Level 40  
    And my friend cannot be persuaded to take advice. We still don't know what list was uploaded. This may be a non-updated list. If the receiver is already catching some stations suitable for a specific satellite, I would scan the entire satellite again. But we don't really know many things except that our friend is spinning the antenna.
  • #24 3612056
    krzychupar
    Level 43  
    Check the coaxial cable connection from the converter to the tuner, whether the LNB is connected to the correct socket.
  • #25 3612064
    tomarex
    Level 24  
    Well, it's hard to find the reason so remotely.
    There may be many reasons for this.
    Just this list. You would have to analyze the data of received and unreceived transponders with satellite data lists.
    Settings not correct in the tuner - e.g. the converter is to be universal.
    Old type or damaged converter.
    Antenna - too small, damaged, incorrectly assembled, you wrote the converter is looking down the antenna - it should be looking into the center of the dish.
    The tuner also does not know if it is not damaged.
    At the beginning, scanning and this analysis may reveal some regularities.
  • #26 3612717
    swirek
    Level 11  
    the list is up-to-date just the one you gave above.
    on the hotbrida the converter is set in the middle and only catches some frequencies, on the astra I also have the center but then there is no quality, when it is directed downwards, the same as in the hotbrid it catches only some frequencies :( I have 2 converters but so far I do not have disec so I go to the roof and plug in the cable. nothing helps and I do not want to go there now because it blows there a little;]
  • #27 3615540
    meloch
    Level 29  
    meloch wrote:

    As colleagues wrote above - you are probably receiving a different satellite than you would like.
    If you don't have a meter, you can do this ("na feel"):
    1. Select the TvPolonia program from the list.
    2. Check the signal strength - if it is approx. 90% and there is no image, then:
    3. Rotate the antenna slightly to the left until you get "next%"
    4. If signal strength appears and there is still no image, turn gently clockwise until successful.
    Your antenna should be oriented like the antennas with the Cyfra + logo.


    Have you tried to adjust the antenna according to this description?
  • #28 3616511
    swirek
    Level 11  
    so I did and it did not help :(
    I get some music max
  • #29 3617183
    Lidzia
    Level 28  
    swirek wrote:
    so I did and it didn't help :(
    I get some music max


    And it won't help because:
    You are on the Israeli satellite Amos1 Telespazio Hungary package as the only free-to-air channel. Station parameters 11.260 GHz, H polarization, sr 27500, FEC 3/4. And where is the horbird.
    http://img130.imageshack.us/my.php?image=satylityrozmierzeniectp6.jpg.
    Enter the town, province, I will make some bearings and what kind of parabola or offset antenna
  • #30 3617973
    meloch
    Level 29  
    swirek wrote:
    so I did and it didn't help :(
    I get some music max


    You do not follow the description, you try something at random !!!

Topic summary

The discussion revolves around the setup of the Ferguson AF 5018 CI antenna, where the user struggles to achieve a satisfactory signal quality despite a signal strength reading of 92%. Various suggestions are provided, including adjusting the elevation angle of the antenna, ensuring proper alignment towards the satellite, and checking the connections between the antenna and the tuner. Users emphasize the importance of using an analog tuner for precise adjustments and recommend verifying the settings and transponder lists. Issues with the LNB (Low Noise Block downconverter) and potential cable damage are also highlighted as possible causes for the low signal quality. The conversation includes multiple troubleshooting steps and resources for calculating elevation and azimuth angles based on geographical location.
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