At the outset, I will introduce myself:
I helped with the installation of Air-conditioning, currently, I help in its sale, I do not know the regulations, so the company does not provide (possibly advertising is prohibited), while I trained with an air-conditioning installer who has more seniority than certain age people, which does not mean that he knows everything.
Witam
Potrzebuję podłączyć splita 12kBTU. W komplecie jest 3m rurek, a mi potrzeba ok. 6-7m. Taka jest w przybliżeniu odległość w pionie między jednostkami. Tutaj kilka pytań:
1. Czy wystarczy fabrycznie załadowanego czynnika ?
2. Czy pompa jednostopniowa wystarczy do "odessania" ?
3. Czy rurki połączeniowe to "zwykłe" miedziane rurki, które można nabyć w sklepie z takimi produktami ?
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It is easy enough to 15+ meters, you can risk each meter weakening the device. I know that for some it sounds unreasonable, but one client requested such an assembly, I assumed that the air conditioning would not start, I hope that a skimpy ham has already been poured.
You can weld tubes if you are just a few meters away.
The problem is that the minimum quantity that comes out cheap is 25 meters and the cheapest wholesaler is probably in Warsaw. Normally the price is 300% higher in such shops. And the tubes are really expensive.
I wrote again, not everything I write is perfectly professional
The factor is always selected and checked with clocks that cost a little and you need to know how to do it when someone assumes in advance that the air conditioning at such and such a distance has as much as you need, then you enter a mistake. I would only risk in the case of self-assembly air conditioning, but it will be 200 PLN more expensive.
Do grzania zestaw zimowy jest niepotrzebny - rozłączany automatycznie w momencie wejścia w tryb grzania. Wystarczy zwykła grzałka opasowa 30W na sprężarce.
It is not enough to have an adapted fan rotation speed.
Incorrectly performed operation will significantly shorten the life of the device. You can invest, but the difference will be, that is, it is equal to the additional payment that the installer will take for the modification

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:shocked!: a do czego jest zestaw zimowy ? Wyłącza się w trybie grzania ?! Sorry, ale nie rozumiem...
In fact, it is about the possibility of cooling down to -15 degrees.
With this operation in negative temperatures, it is very differently better if the installer assembles the air conditioning from the beginning or puts his own brand on it, it will definitely be cheaper than the companyow
Chciałem założyć ZIBRO S1233, bo ma opcję grzania z zestawem zimowym, a ja bym z tego chętnie korzystał, bo mam ogrzewanie tylko kominkowe. W okresie przejściowym gdy na zewnątrz +5 do +10 stopni, to kominek daje za dużo ciepła, a bez niego jest za zimno.
Czynnik R410A
The business of life, as they say, the thrifty loses twice.
I have to start cheating people too
Przeczytałem ten temat i zauważyłem że nikt nie doradził koledze o pułapkach olejowych .W montażu pionowym muszą być pułapki olejowe.Przy długości 6m minimum 2.POZDRAWIAM
check with clocks check the device work properly change the plastic tube to alum pex give a small slant to the indoor unit + rubbers for the outdoor unit sometimes they are not there
you also have to take into account sometimes a bender, a device for making collars, and for cutting tubes, let's not forget about clocks and a sensible pump, it will come time to buy everything cheaply, it guarantees that Allegro is not enough!
And in order to handle certain gases you need to have a license.
The same as with a current with certain properties.
in addition, a decent SDS MAX drill costs PLN 2000
In total, there are no decent books or courses for climate installers and the training can be hilarious.
Has anyone in the store who sold the air-conditioning system told you that you would lose your WARRANTY even if it was for self-assembly, they will also not recognize your work.
If the air conditioning installer does not perform the inspection once a year (which is an absolute minimum) you risk an asthma attack, not to mention that the equipment will not last. All in all, the inspections are simple, but let's take the risk ratio to the fact that you will 100% check the correct operation of the device without equipment and, more importantly, knowledge.
And now you are being killed by the people who will press the air-conditioner and tell you that if you have fun, you will install it yourself, they probably have a good deal in it.
1 0 warranty.
2 repairs will earn more than on installation.
3 the air conditioning is working incorrectly, the fault of the wrong installation, disassembly and re-installation, guarantees that the cost is higher than the equipment in question.
That's not all, if you order an installation with air conditioning, you can charge 7% VAT for the whole thing.
And perhaps the worst, the Air Conditioning Installer gets huge discounts when buying air conditioning, provided that you take over the warranty repairs

40-50% is the norm !!! and even 65% if they know that you are a proven seller. The problem is that no Installer Seller wants to repair a badly serviced and, what is worse, a badly installed air-conditioning unit, everyone will blame themselves for a change.
In Polish law, you are entitled to only 12 months for complaints in which you must prove possible fault after 12 months for the next 12 months you will probably have to order an expert opinion.
There is a long warranty for good air conditioning. But sometimes the equipment is not always guaranteed, but the repair has already been included.
It is funny to give here the compressor from the company company x and we have no company. Decent companies often change the type of compressors and the only reason this equipment is mentioned is the fact that decent companies due to the stinginess of customers have to install something cheaper.
If the X company were decent, it would definitely make a name for itself.
Of course, there are devices that you probably have not heard of, these are brands known only for air conditioning, e.g. LENNOX MCQUAY
Again, I prefer to have 2.5kW than 5kW than some companies.
I mixed up a bit but I hope that I will convince a few people to think because, interestingly, you recommend branded refrigerators and air conditioning, eee ...
1. There is no idea cheap KLIMA
2. THERE IS NO KIND OF TAN INVERTER
3. There is no idea how cheap to use air conditioning
4. Energy-saving only if the air conditioning really has the specified power.
5. The cheapest Air-conditioning is a duct, taking into account comfort, etc.
6. Usually the air conditioning installer will get the equipment you want to mine much cheaper, you will get a full discount only if you install it.
7. Air conditioners from brands you haven't heard of are loud 98% of the time.
8. Installers of air-conditioning companies delete sharply.
If someone wants to set up air conditioning in Warsaw, I can advise for free with a friend who professionally installs on this subject, of course, for free in his spare time, provided that he reports on the forum.
The bad scenario we go along with is:
We go to the air-conditioning company
they put us in the air conditioning for 1800 GLANC GANY GANC
it costs them PLN 500
power is selected without reserve, we have to install air conditioning because of the attic
and because we were stretched on air conditioning, we will get a great promotional messy assembly for 700 PLN
Klima has aluminum tubes included

well, unbearable noise, and since we do not use it, we do not need to maintain ...
This ends up with an asthma attack, of course.
After less than three years, the equipment breaks down.
Even if we wanted a warranty repair, with this poor operation and cooling, we only want to get rid of the furniture.
A good scenario is that we choose a good air conditioning where they sell almost and only good air conditioning

in the end, what a man sells becomes so and the assembly will be quite a net 600-700 PLN
and Klima is 10 years without failure after 10 years something spoils you but because the equipment is decent it will pay off to repair it :)
I remind you I will gladly help with the installation for the report

of course you would have to find the time gap.
And one more thing The air conditioning installation is relatively easy, it is much more difficult to repair it, replace the compressor, etc.