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Buying a Vander Eccentric Sander: Comparing Performance, Quality & Reliability to Makita & B&D

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  • #1 9100592
    79rock79
    Level 10  
    Anyone used these tools? I am thinking of buying such an eccentric sander in connection with completing a handy kit for the renovation that awaits me. When it comes to performance, it looks surprisingly solid, I would even say that visually it does not stand out from Makita (!) And for example B&D beats the head. But how do these tools work in practice? The Vander website says that the company is Polish and produces them itself, but how much truth is there? I am asking for the opinion of people who have dealt with this company.
    Thanks.
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  • #2 9112227
    Sedac
    Level 16  
    http://www.vander.pl/ The company is from Rzeszów and when I was at a construction fair in that city, I saw its stand with electric tools. I do not believe that the products are of Polish production. They look like most tools from China.
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  • #3 9120617
    79rock79
    Level 10  
    To sum up. I bought a Vander screwdriver. The cost is PLN 80. Working time - could not withstand screwing in the first plug 8. Design and ergonomics 5/5. The rest - the bottom. No more trash. Apparently, even for amateur works, it is not suitable.
  • #4 9151319
    Sedac
    Level 16  
    I live 50 km from Rzeszów and I have not heard that there is a Vander power tool factory in this city. There is at most a service point and the tools could be bought at the market on Dołowa Street. I have not seen anywhere in the store. I had a welder from this company and sold it quickly
  • #5 9153016
    Jacek1983rr
    Level 24  
    It makes me laugh, they are popular in so many countries, and only now you hear about them in my home country. Migomat confusingly similar to Einchel :)
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  • #6 9158910
    vanderrzeszow
    Level 1  
    It just so happens that I am speaking on behalf of the Vander company :)
    Yes, the company is Poland, the production of machines is in many countries and I will not hide that 80% is Chinese production, but I would also like to point out that, for example, Makita, Bosch, B&D and many other companies of this level have their production in China. Production in the Far East depends primarily not on where it is made, but how and from what, some of our tools look similar to the "Chinese" common on our market, but it is important how they are constructed inside and what metal alloy was used for modes, what copper is used for the rotors, whether the switches are dust-proof, and much more. The appearance is what it is because of the costs, because admit that the price is attractive, but to maintain it we have to take into account that the original appearance is very expensive and would raise the price by at least 40%.
    The fact that Vander is little known on the Polish market is the result of a policy based on the sale of only exports for 9 years, only in 2 years sales appeared in Poland with a trial assortment.
    In summary, the quality of the tools can be compared to Skill, Ferm, because we often use the same factories. I would like to add that, as in every brand, not all models are successful, as for the previous speaker who mentioned the screwdriver, could I know what model it is, when it was commissioned and when it was bought. In cases like this, it is extremely rare, if ever, for screwdrivers that we are really happy with, we give back a new product if it has been used in a decent way.

    I will be happy to answer any further questions.
  • #7 9159073
    79rock79
    Level 10  
    Quote:
    Oh, I think the competition here gave its vote.

    Oh, probably not the competition, but the dissatisfied user.
    I also have a Vander eccentric sander (I bought it together with a screwdriver). It still works (one use), which I consider a plus, although the power declared on the plate has nothing to do with its actual possibilities. On the other hand, the screwdriver stopped working with the first screw.
    However, 50% efficiency is not the best result
  • #8 9159286
    gustawo321
    Level 1  
    Dear readers
    I have a welding machine and two grinders from the same company and I am satisfied. These devices are perfect for home workshops. Well, if someone at this price expects quality and durability like Makita, then good luck. Boy, you buy yourself - you will take care of it yourself - it will work.
  • #9 9159329
    Anonymous
    Anonymous  
  • #10 9159398
    79rock79
    Level 10  
    to taste321
    But what are you writing about? What caring? After all, I say clearly that the screwdriver did not manage even one screw.
  • #11 9160306
    Sedac
    Level 16  
    The guest writes about dust-protected switches. Maybe they are, but they get off anyway and users look for new ones at the seller at the market. In a moment someone will write that Topex is a Polish company and produces Graphite power tools.
  • #12 9466947
    anetgus
    Level 2  
    The fundamental and most important question - does Vander accept guarantees for the so-called professional work with a hammer drill :) if so, he buys 10 pcs. :)
  • #13 10382748
    jaśoFasola
    Level 1  
    I bought a screwdriver from this company, being guided, among other things, by the fact that at the auction they pretended to be a Polish manufacturer. The packaging of the screwdriver reads "Made in CRL for Vander". In my opinion, the company gives false information that it is a producer. The company imports Chinese power tools and sells under its own brand. It is therefore a distributor / importer and not a manufacturer. It is a trading company. As for the screwdriver, it works. I use it sporadically. Cons: burning smell with higher load and the motor vibrating making the characteristic sound of sliding bearings rubbing at higher revolutions.
  • #14 10382803
    Anonymous
    Anonymous  
  • #15 13517386
    LightOfWinter
    Level 38  
    Hello

    I would not exaggerate.
    I have a cordless drill from this company - Vander (without batteries) and I'm satisfied. I paid about PLN 75. I screw it with screws in furniture and walls occasionally, and drill small holes in wood and PCBs. For home use it is fine. Small, handy, contoured housing with good ergonomics.

    It is obvious that it is not a heavy-duty tool and, for example, it is not suitable for drilling in roofs.
  • #16 18683135
    Dolce
    Level 22  
    Old subject, but Vander tools are still on sale. I bought a Vander power screwdriver, 450W, two-speed.
    I DO NOT RECOMMEND.
    Equipment for ...
    In the first few months, I spent more time in the service than at work. Constantly breaking down speed control of the switch.
    However, this is not the worst thing, but the representatives' approach to the client. No honesty and even simple decency. After the fourth repair in a year, I asked for my money back because I knew it was just crap. There was no way to get such a deal, I didn't have time to box with these grandfathers. I only received a new screwdriver. Of course, the problem did not disappear, the speed controller went out in the next play. For the last 6 months the screwdriver has been practically unused, I have come to terms with the lack of speed regulation. A few days ago, I wanted to use a screwdriver to build a greenhouse. After a dozen or so minutes of work, the differential broke down. I mean, I don't know exactly what, I just hear a scratching noise and there is no drive to the head and the engine is running. Before I drink ... this "wonderful" equipment, first I will go to my friend who has the press and treat him with this press several times in a row.
    This is equipment made in China and in Poland they only have guests for squeezing this scrap.
    The trash, the trash and the goofing again.
    Hope I helped someone who was going to buy this junk.
    Thank you for your attention.
  • #17 18683196
    krau
    Level 24  
    I bought an eccentric sander from this company only because of the work with sandpaper of fi 150 (most of these types of tools use fi 125). She's already worked around 60 hours, has used up a lot of 240 and above sanding sheets, and a few felt and polishing pads, and it's still working. The attached dust bag is a misunderstanding - it falls off the machine due to vibrations, but when connected to an external vacuum cleaner, it is ok. I am happy for the money.
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  • #18 18718784
    lopezrob
    Level 11  
    As for the cordless drill, I recommend Triton TCU 300 It's nice and nothing is happening with it yet and I have it for 2 years and she has done some work And as for Vander, I was looking for information because I was thinking about the VANDER VUD 707 miter saw cool has a feed because it takes up less space and the 305 disc
  • #19 18718900
    Dolce
    Level 22  
    As I wrote, if it turns out that this is a failed tool, the website will ignore you. Take a risk.
  • #20 18720625
    lopezrob
    Level 11  
    I don't want to buy it either. I also have an Ewolution R255 SMS PLUS or Metabo KGS 254 M miter saw on my head. Metabo was in a supermarket for PLN 1099 two months ago.
  • #21 18720754
    Dolce
    Level 22  
    I have a Metabo KHE24 rotary hammer. This is an old model, quite successful. I am not crazy about this company, it's just ok. However, in my opinion, DeWalt's products are slightly better in a similar price range, they are simply more durable. It all depends on what and how much you will use the tool. If you can afford a good tool, I would not buy Chinese-Polish shit and similar trash. Too bad for nerves. If you want, I can send you my Vader. I wanted it personally and solemnly smash it against the wall of the house, but unfortunately I have an insulated one, so only this scrap would stick into the polystyrene. It can do that much.
  • #22 18721968
    lopezrob
    Level 11  
    I am also going to avoid this company. For the excuse, I will add that it can be like this with any thing. Some shitty equipment is bought for pennies and the other brand-name ones will be running out. The service did not even have parts for it and they returned the money, they did not give a new kettle, and at Vander even a bad service because they have so many staples that they only replace until one of them clicks and it will go on. They laugh that when you buy a Chinese LED bulb, the seller, when buying a container of light bulbs, gets from Two Chinese for exchange
  • #23 18722215
    Dolce
    Level 22  
    Well, it is exactly as you wrote! I have just replaced the screwdriver during the warranty period with another one. For exactly the same crap. This one broke too, but I didn't ask for repair anymore. The boys from Vander have beaten me up in this case, they may be triumphant :)
    However, I learned something. If I order another scrap in the future, I will do it directly from the manufacturer, i.e. on AliExpress :) Thanks to Vander, I've also become more pragmatic and patient. I order equipment in winter, it will come from China to Poland in the spring.
    I live according to the seasons.
    Regards.
  • #24 19058408
    gulon4
    Level 11  
    Hmmmm, maybe I'll warm up the topic a bit. I have a bush of this company, I practically plowed it. He walked with the giraffe to the plaster of that company. After three years of hard plowing, the bearings were burnt in the vacuum cleaner (it was rubbed off with dust). As it was already after the warranty, I replaced the bearings with new, better ones and still plowing :-) . I have another one just in case, hehehe. As it was written above: either you hit and it will be 10 years or you will shit .... all the time. What would some not say that I praise, I will add: I have been running a business for 10 years and I use branded tools, Makita Bosch and Metabo, I bought something for tests out of curiosity. I had two Kress vacuum cleaners and both (electronics) fell after the first year of use and they were supposed to be a well-known brand and were supposed to be so reliable and "something" lasted twice as long :P . Regards
  • #25 19099644
    Dolce
    Level 22  
    The vacuum cleaner is not a screwdriver. Maybe the vacuum cleaners have good sweeping brushes, and even better ones would certainly have sweeping brushes. However, screwdrivers have doopy and service too.
  • #26 19104898
    gulon4
    Level 11  
    Well, no, the vacuum cleaner is not a screwdriver, but nothing in the topic was about the screwdriver, the interested person asked if it was worth buying tools from this company, so I wrote what I use and how they behave (I do not have a screwdriver, hehehe), and when it comes to a screwdriver, if the machine is it costs 8 ten, so I would think about buying it, I've already dealt with this topic with enihels for 130 zeta, that's enough for me, and this was supposed to be German, hehehe
  • #27 19105554
    Dolce
    Level 22  
    The topic is about the Vander company, no matter what product. It is important that it is a Chinese company operating in Rzeszów. They do not produce anything themselves, they only order parcels from China and if it breaks down, they pretend to repair something. These are such repairs according to the instructions from the Chinaman, on his parts, his grants. Oh, a Chinese producer based in Rzeszów. Business like 99% of others today, with the difference that those in Rzeszów do not have honor and will not give you the money even if the tool broke every 3 days ... This is the truth about Vander and some.
  • #28 19135701
    toolpusher
    Level 23  
    I have a 2.5t jack for a Vander car. The piston pours after a few lifts of the car. Trash.
  • #29 19259720
    Mikrob
    Level 18  
    My friend, JasoFasola, almost every piece of equipment says that it is made in China, after all, the largest brands from the USA, Japan have their factories (and Chinese employees) there, and few Polish products are not wholly or mostly manufactured in China. I am surprised only by the compatibility and almost the same design and construction of this company as Makita power tools.
  • #30 19260043
    Topolski Mirosław
    Moderator of Electrical engineering
    Mikrob wrote:
    I am surprised only by the compatibility and almost the same design and construction of this company as Makita power tools.

    Compatibility ends with the appearance because the quality of both parts and work with these tools is a gulf.

Topic summary

The discussion revolves around the performance, quality, and reliability of Vander eccentric sanders compared to tools from Makita and Black & Decker (B&D). Users express skepticism about Vander's claims of Polish manufacturing, suggesting that most of their products are sourced from China. Many users report poor experiences with Vander tools, particularly with screwdrivers and sanders, citing issues such as low durability, inadequate performance, and unsatisfactory customer service. Some users, however, mention satisfactory experiences with specific Vander products, indicating that while they may be suitable for occasional home use, they do not match the quality of established brands like Makita. The conversation also touches on the compatibility of Vander tools with other brands and the general perception of Chinese-manufactured tools.
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