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Free Energy: Exploring and Discussing the Searl Generator's Magnets, Rings & Rollers

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  • #151 15268398
    RADASSS
    Level 15  
    Colleagues have probably read and know the concept of an autonomous house.
    Link
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  • #152 15268426
    Artur k.
    VIP Meritorious for electroda.pl
    And how many such houses are there in the world and in what geographic regions?

    In addition, it is worth reading for yourself what is being linked:

    Quote:
    Since electricity is expensive, the first step to saving it should be to adjust your lifestyle and home design to reduce energy requirements. Fluorescent lighting (fluorescent lamps), laptops and gas absorption coolers save electricity and therefore money.

    It follows that, unfortunately, living in such a house should seriously reduce electricity consumption.

    Quote:
    During periods of low electricity demand (e.g. at night), excess energy may be stored in accumulator batteries. Unfortunately, the batteries need to be replaced every few years because of their gradual wear. In many areas, it is possible to avoid the purchase of batteries by connecting the building to the power grid, which will allow surplus energy to be sold to the grid. Such a building will be less autonomous but cheaper, requiring less sacrifice on the part of the residents. At the same time, when selling overproduction of energy to the grid, there is no loss in battery efficiency, which saves more fossil fuels.

    In areas with no access to the electricity grid, the capacity of the battery bank may be reduced when a generator is installed in the system to recharge the batteries during the period of insufficient electricity supply from the wind turbine and photovoltaic cells. Such generators can run on gasoline, diesel oil, larger devices also run on natural gas. One hour of charging the batteries is usually enough for a full day of energy use.

    So, after all, for a comfortable apartment and a peaceful night's sleep, it would be useful to connect to the power grid, or to install a diesel generator.

    Such a building is more of a curiosity than something in which you can actually live and function normally.
    You might as well become a hermit.
  • #153 15268521
    RADASSS
    Level 15  
    I use the combustion unit just for the sake of peace, because Enea does not provide it, especially around the holidays. This week he was already working :(
  • #154 15268548
    Artur k.
    VIP Meritorious for electroda.pl
    Well, you are unlucky or you are too demanding. 99% of people in Poland do not have a problem with electricity supply.
    In the last 10 years, I had no electricity three times, and twice a storm damaged a transformer in a substation. Recently, in November, there was no, because the building administrator was modernizing the installation. :)
  • #155 15268632
    _jta_
    Electronics specialist
    The average energy consumption in Poland is about 700W per person - and a 1m2 panel will probably give an average of 25W, so a 28m2 of roof for panels is needed per person. The roofs of farm buildings in the countryside must be used, because the roofs of the houses themselves will not be enough, although, on the other hand, the village still lives more economically, maybe enough for them. In the city, for example, my building has a roof of 600 m2, and 400 people live in it, so the energy from the panels on the roof could cover several% of the demand; a further few% could be achieved by panels on the wall (unfortunately, a large part of it is covered by trees).
  • #156 15269362
    saskia
    Level 39  
    _jta_ wrote:
    The average energy consumption in Poland is about 700W per person - and a 1m2 panel will probably give an average of 25W, so a 28m2 of roof for panels is needed per person. The roofs of farm buildings in the countryside must be used, because the roofs of the houses themselves will not be enough, although, on the other hand, the village still lives more economically, maybe enough for them. In the city, for example, my building has a roof of 600 m2, and 400 people live in it, so the energy from the panels on the roof could cover several% of the demand; a further few% could be achieved by panels on the wall (unfortunately, a large part of it is covered by trees).


    You must have confused something, because I can see that you have not marked where it is about Wh, but where only about W.
    700W per person, it is rather about 700Wh / day, and not about continuous 700W power consumption.
    If the panel gives an average of 25W, it will give about 600Wh / day, that is, about 1.2m? of the panel per person is needed.

    On the occasion of a Happy New Year!
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  • #157 15269541
    _jta_
    Electronics specialist
    I mean 700W per person, or 25 GW (gusts up to 30 GW) for the whole of Poland. We use so much. This is still not much compared to many other countries, e.g. from the USA.
  • #158 15270377
    saskia
    Level 39  
    _jta_ wrote:
    I mean 700W per person, or 25 GW (gusts up to 30 GW) for the whole of Poland. We use so much. This is still not much compared to many other countries, e.g. from the USA.


    You still do not specify what is going on, do you mean that each consumes 700W power non-stop? What would be 16.8 kWh per day and 6132kWh per year.
  • #159 15270598
    Anonymous
    Level 1  
  • #160 15270930
    RADASSS
    Level 15  
    I wrote about 500 W on average for the whole house. It is inhabited by 3 people + a cat. The cat consumes an average of 100 mW. More cats at home could increase the consumption of an average Pole :D
    In addition, in another thread I wrote about measuring the wind over my roof. It also does not pay off, because the average power of a ? 3 m windmill is 50 W. However, these values of power from renewable household sources should not be rejected, because they are important just like utopian electric cars.
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  • #161 15270977
    Artur k.
    VIP Meritorious for electroda.pl
    RADASSS wrote:
    I wrote about 500 W on average for the whole house.

    And in what unit of time? Because it will surely be much more daily, unless someone does not have a refrigerator, for example.
    For example, I took the first better refrigerator, just from Samsung, energy class A +++ - energy consumption 172kWh / year, which gives about 470W per day. There is still the question of under what conditions these 172kWh / year were measured and whether such a result can be obtained during normal use. Let us trust the manufacturer that it is so, it is still impossible to use less than 700W per day. Unless someone is watching TV, listening to the radio, or having a telephone, you wash yourself in a bowl with warm water by the fire, and use candles for lighting.
    Then your 500W is real.
  • #162 15271013
    RADASSS
    Level 15  
    Exactly for the last two months, after simple calculations, I get 406.4 [W] of non-stop power consumption. I will not do a scan of the EE bill because my colleagues know better how much energy / power I use. Immediately, I fabricated it. The omniscience of some is irritating. This is probably called hatred and is to be exterminated by the moderators, and here what flows freely on the wave of unnecessary kilobytes.
  • #163 15271033
    Artur k.
    VIP Meritorious for electroda.pl
    Perhaps you made these calculations too simple, or the house was empty ...
    Maybe, however, make a scan of this invoice and describe how it really was. :)

    This is not any omniscience buddy, only logical reasoning and some life experience.
  • #164 15271093
    RADASSS
    Level 15  
    I could only make a mistake by a day for the calculation. And discussions on how long the house is inhabited are for children from the sandbox. I didn't build to wander anywhere. Scan attached. After an in-depth analysis of the truthfulness, I wait for the interested person to politely correct his guesses. Multiplication, division mate, but not just anything by anything. Most likely, the colleague is confusing kWh for kW. However, in a colleague it is not important because it is enough to count the number of light bulbs and boxes with speakers. Life experience ... not counting. I squeal with laughter :D :D :D

    For example: 172 kWh / year; 1 year = 365 days = 8,760 hours
    172: 8760 = 19.63 Watts non-stop
    So if we connected a refrigerator with a power consumption of 19.63 W, it will use 172 kWh for a year.
  • #165 15271202
    Artur k.
    VIP Meritorious for electroda.pl
    RADASSS wrote:
    For example: 172 kWh / year; 1 year = 365 days = 8,760 hours
    172: 8760 = 19.63 Watts non-stop

    So, Mr. mathematician, how much will you use during the day? Exactly as much as you would use by connecting one 471W device for one hour.

    And you used 556kW for two months, so 278kWh per month, divide by 30 days gives almost 10kWh per day which is about 400W per hour.
    And where are your 500W per day for the whole house?
    Yes, I know, you will write in a moment that you meant just about an hour, not the whole day.
  • #166 15271242
    RADASSS
    Level 15  
    Where did I write
    Artur k. wrote:
    500W per day for the whole house
    Whereas
    RADASSS wrote:
    1/2 kW is just as much as the average I use non-stop in a large hut
    No sir buddy, you still get stuck, I don't know what. When considering power, we ignore the time factor. If you can't understand it, it's hard. Ask, head a head, maybe something will flash. With energy and power, it is not so hopping despite your misconceptions.
    Write, buddy, please, the result of this quotient, the calculation of units
    [kWh]: [h] = [??]
  • #167 15271930
    Artur k.
    VIP Meritorious for electroda.pl
    And who wrote:
    RADASSS wrote:
    I wrote about 500 W on average for the whole house.

    and next:
    RADASSS wrote:
    So, according to me 1/2 kW, if it was available from inexpensive panels, it would be ok. At the peak I charge an order of magnitude more (for max 1 hour), but that's what the batteries are for.


    From this it is clear that you say that such power is enough for you to power the entire house, which is obvious nonsense. As it turned out that nonsense, you started to wade in kilowatt-hours and accused me of miscalculating, while you calculated exactly the same, only presented differently to disguise the obvious.
    I am not surprised - you had to accept some defense of your theory, and that it was just pointless ...

    You have a 500W set ready here:
    http://www.ekoland.shoper.pl/pl/p/500W-Elektr...-fotowoltaiczna-Zecja-sieciowy-500W-230V-/309
    In your opinion, it is enough, and the road is not - less than PLN 2,200. Install yourself and enjoy the free energy, we will see how long you will enjoy and whose calculations are correct.
    You will save that much cash, with bills of PLN 200 for two months, it will pay off after two years, then you will be self-sufficient. :)
  • #168 15271941
    RADASSS
    Level 15  
    You're raving. You are constricted. Stop hating is pathology. This is not an industry for audio professionals.

    Moderated By ANUBIS:

    3.1.9. Don't offend the other side of the discussion. Respect the dissenting opinion and other opinions in the forum.

  • #169 15272029
    _jta_
    Electronics specialist
    At the same time, this is a rather far-fetched statement because a lot of this power of 25GW is perceived by companies whose products are later not used by Poles at all.
    But we also buy products that are produced with energy that does not come from us (we pay for them with products that we produce using our energy). Perhaps the only thing that should be done is that people have to generate energy for their homes, and let their owners and managers worry about factories.
  • #170 15272066
    Artur k.
    VIP Meritorious for electroda.pl
    RADASSS wrote:
    This is not an industry for audio professionals.

    For machine builders, as you can see, not really.

    I found you a complete 500W solar power plant - as you wanted, you declared that it would be enough for your purposes and what? Somehow I do not see you refer to it, as I understand it - you do not buy. You will probably find an excuse and say that PLN 2200 is too expensive.

    You know very well that something like this is not enough, so why write:
    RADASSS wrote:
    So, according to me 1/2 kW, if it was available from inexpensive panels, it would be ok. At the peak I charge an order of magnitude more (for max 1 hour), but that's what the batteries are for.
  • #171 15281961
    wnoto
    Level 34  
    atom1477 wrote:
    But the other energy cannot be counted much anymore.

    Example ?

    Added after 1 [minutes]:

    atom1477 wrote:
    that at least 20% goes to transmission losses.

    Not more than 7-8% - data from probably 2 years ago. It should have been better since then.
  • #172 15282032
    Anonymous
    Level 1  
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  • #173 16601454
    pskal32
    Level 13  
    Hello. In my opinion, Searl's device works on the principle of the simplest frame in a magnetic field. As the ring rotates, the copper rod changes position in relation to the poles of the magnet, which causes EMF and current flow through the commutator slices and copper rings in the circles. As they alternate positions, one goes to the right and the other goes to the left and the rings will move.
    I attach a drawing, it looks terrible, but I have a problem with drawing.
    Free Energy: Exploring and Discussing the Searl Generator's Magnets, Rings & Rollers

    Best regards.
  • #174 16601676
    _jta_
    Electronics specialist
    SEM has a sign that it inhibits the movement that caused it - Lenz's rule - wasn't at school?
  • #175 16738267
    pskal32
    Level 13  
    In a compact conductor in an alternating magnetic field, an alternating electric field is created, which creates a magnetic field and vice versa. See what a copper rod looks like above the magnets on electric rails. Moves.
    A copper pipe with a steel core will not detach from the magnet, it will contain the outer tracks.
    As in a Faraday disk, a copper object moving in a constant magnetic field (the outer part of a magnet) will create a high intensity current. A rotating magnetic field is created around a current conductor. Like the frame, the cable wants to rotate.
    This is the case according to the laws of physics presented everywhere.
    I didn't make it up.
  • #176 16738546
    _jta_
    Electronics specialist
    See # 174 - the sign is important!

Topic summary

The discussion revolves around the Searl Effect Generator (SEG), a device purported to generate free energy using magnets, rings, and rollers. Participants express skepticism about its feasibility, citing a lack of credible information on its construction and operation. Some contributors mention the need for specific materials and designs, such as the use of neodymium magnets and the importance of magnetic fields. Others argue that the device is a scam, pointing out that no successful prototypes have been demonstrated despite decades of claims. The conversation also touches on the principles of magnetism, energy generation, and the challenges of creating a working model. A few participants suggest theoretical approaches to powering the generator, while others emphasize the necessity of scientific knowledge and practical experience in building such devices.
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