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Free Energy: Exploring and Discussing the Searl Generator's Magnets, Rings & Rollers

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  • #31 12979266
    jamtex
    Level 23  
    e8500 wrote:
    The Russian's latch is impossible.
    Interestingly, everyone wants to build this generator, there is a catch, if it existed, space shuttles would be built on it. true.



    Not only is the latch impracticable, and this "catch" is known to the initiated and even has its own name .
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  • #32 12980164
    Radd
    Level 13  
    e8500 wrote:
    Hello
    I am in the process of looking for a company that will make magnets for the order. I'm going to check if it works like others. The Russian's latch is impossible.
    Interestingly, everyone wants to build this generator, there is a catch, if it existed, space shuttles would be built on it. true.


    Don't waste your time and money. To build it, you need to have a bit of a head in your head and it is not enough to watch the movie on the Internet, you need quite a broad knowledge of physics and electrical engineering. The fact that it looks so nice and simple on the outside does not mean that it is everything and that it is built that way. There are a lot of things hidden inside. There is no magnetic wave there, as some movies show. It's all for a fake. Listen carefully to what Searl tells - sometimes very interesting information happens between the lines. I have been following the topic for over 7 years and only this year "historical thinking began to dawn on me" and I honestly say that a few more pieces of the puzzle are still missing. I think 98% it might work, but that it will pick up speed when loaded, it seems to be quite a stretch to me. I've counted 5 hooks so far. Space Shuttles? It is probably not a coincidence that such an interest in space by corporations has emerged (it seems that eventually some movement is emerging in this direction, even our Polish universities have started to introduce space directions). In any case, you will not build it on your knee, and even having machine tools is almost a miracle.
  • #33 12980218
    jamtex
    Level 23  
    Radd wrote:

    Don't waste your time and money.


    In all this statement, only this sentence is true :)
  • #34 12980326
    _jta_
    Electronics specialist
    Listen carefully to what Searl tells - sometimes very interesting information happens between the lines.
    This is what the cheat method is all about, so that a potential victim will count on listening carefully to catch enough interesting information to obtain something - as a result, they focus so much on listening that they do not notice the fraud and allow themselves to be cheated for many years. And Searl is skilled at it.
  • #35 12981135
    Radd
    Level 13  
    _jta_ wrote:
    Listen carefully to what Searl tells - sometimes very interesting information happens between the lines.
    This is what the cheat method is all about, so that a potential victim will count on listening carefully to catch enough interesting information to obtain something - as a result, they focus so much on listening that they do not notice the fraud and allow themselves to be cheated for many years. And Searl is skilled at it.


    Well, such a big excitement after what I wrote. Why no one spoke like a friend before e8500 he wrote that he was looking for a company that would make him magnets?
    I do not feel cheated at all, I still take it with a grain of salt, and the fact that I wrote that 98% maybe To work does not mean that I say it will work.
    However, I argue that first you have to confront it with scientific knowledge and then only build it when you have a solid foundation, that something will come out otherwise is money wasted.
    And so over and over again, Maciej, your chort and pop yours, and finally move people's mind in their posts, let your mind shake, and you will see that something will start to appear - so hard to think, every day at least a little? Nothing comes right away.
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  • #36 12981319
    Anonymous
    Anonymous  
  • #37 12981366
    Radd
    Level 13  
    Ferdynand_K wrote:
    The future and new discoveries in my opinion cannot be enumerated, it is impossible to imagine in my head!

    It is hard work, a lot of experience that directs you to something new.
    Neither over a beer nor being a super mathematician or physicist will come up with anything new.

    What is "new" is unknown to us, and respect for all who do anything, look for something new.

    Sorry for the lack of Polish Letters, I write from a computer in which they are not ;)


    You will probably be surprised when I tell you that all this is already known and nothing new is invented, but only what is available in one whole is associated. This is why I wrote that nothing comes right away.
  • #38 12981990
    _jta_
    Electronics specialist
    Radd, you described something about your perception of Searl's activities, and I associated it with the victim's perception of the scammer's actions - I noticed and pointed out an important common element, notice him, then maybe you won't get fooled.

    Perhaps Kapica counted discoveries from the period of 200 years, which were not predictable - he found from 10, that is one in 20 years; others have been made knowing where and what to look for - and a thorough knowledge is needed for that.
  • #39 12982184
    Grzegorz740
    Level 37  
    e8500 wrote:
    Hello
    I am in the process of looking for a company that will make magnets for the order. I'm going to check if it works like others. The Russian's latch is impossible.
    Interestingly, everyone wants to build this generator, there is a catch, if it existed, space shuttles would be built on it. true.


    If you have a lot of cash, you can look for it. But will you find a company that will produce the appropriate magnets for you? That is the question.
  • #40 12982196
    saskia
    Level 39  
    There are a lot of companies in China, they do whatever you want and how you want.
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  • #41 12982221
    Grzegorz740
    Level 37  
    Radd wrote:
    _jta_ wrote:
    Listen carefully to what Searl tells - sometimes very interesting information happens between the lines.
    This is what the cheat method is all about, so that a potential victim will count on listening carefully to catch enough interesting information to obtain something - as a result, they focus so much on listening that they do not notice the fraud and allow themselves to be cheated for many years. And Searl is skilled at it.


    Well, such a big excitement after what I wrote. Why no one spoke like a friend before e8500 he wrote that he was looking for a company that would make him magnets?
    I do not feel cheated at all, I still take it with a grain of salt, and the fact that I wrote that 98% maybe To work does not mean that I say it will work.
    However, I argue that first you have to confront it with scientific knowledge and then only build it when you have a solid foundation, that something will come out otherwise is money wasted.
    And so over and over again, Maciej, your chort and pop yours, and finally move people's mind in their posts, let your mind shake, and you will see that something will start to appear - so hard to think, every day at least a little? Nothing comes right away.


    That's it. You wrote well. I think that it is not feasible at home. For this you need scientific knowledge, and not just any kind. In addition to knowledge, a lot of money is still needed for further research and the possible implementation of this device.

    For me, such a thing does not make any sense, because it is not known whether the author of this venture did it and checked the operation of his work. And since there were supposedly some witnesses, it could be different.

    Added after 3 [minutes]:

    saskia wrote:
    There are a lot of companies in China, they do whatever you want and how you want.


    Agreement. But does it make sense?
  • #42 12982271
    saskia
    Level 39  
    You cannot look for meaning in individual whims and needs.
    For example, I am crazy about processing machines and so far I have too many of them for a double garage and one-person use.
    Do you see the point in having 21 lathes, 3 milling machines and all accessories for them without using them for profit?
    Certainly not, but I am. :-)
  • #43 12982334
    Grzegorz740
    Level 37  
    saskia wrote:
    You cannot look for meaning in individual whims and needs.
    For example, I am crazy about processing machines and so far I have too many of them for a double garage and one-person use.
    Do you see the point in having 21 lathes, 3 milling machines and all accessories for them without using them for profit?
    Certainly not, but I am. :-)


    If someone has a lot of money for research on the construction of a generator from the topic of the post, I see no obstacles. He can hire appropriate physicists and scientists, and let them conduct such scientific work. For sure the author of the topic and other people speaking on the forum will not understand it themselves. I don't see any sense in this. But I do not defend anyone to make such a generator.

    If you have a hobby of collecting lathes and milling machines, have it. Everyone has a different hobby.
  • #44 12985655
    saskia
    Level 39  
    I would put it more bluntly. :-)
    The definition of deviation is a deviation from the general rule, and that each person is different and has different requirements-criteria, that is, that each of us is deviant. :-)
    How does it now have to do with the so-called human standards, i.e. generally accepted principles. :-) :-) :-)

    Something about these general schemes is probably not compatible. :-) :-) :-)
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  • #45 12985719
    Grzegorz740
    Level 37  
    saskia wrote:
    I would put it more bluntly. :-)
    The definition of deviation is a deviation from the general rule, and that each person is different and has different requirements-criteria, that is, that each of us is deviant. :-)
    How does it now have to do with the so-called human standards, i.e. generally accepted principles. :-) :-) :-)

    Something about these general schemes is probably not compatible. :-) :-) :-)


    Like this way I don't think like you. But you have the right to think and write like that.

    As for me, this generator design is written with a stick on the water. This kind of thing is and is not there.
  • #46 12986846
    saskia
    Level 39  
    If someone here on the forum asks for anything, it would be appropriate to give him a hint, at least about some individual details, how to make them, and leave the question of the sense of building any device without comment, unless the author of the question specifically asks for an evaluation.
    Any other responses, ridicule and referral to school, should be removed by the Moderators.

    As an example, it may be that someone would like to make such a generator as an exhibit-decoration for the apartment and would like it to be made as accurately as possible according to the original.
  • #47 12987144
    Grzegorz740
    Level 37  
    After all, there were already links with descriptions and photos, the author of the topic can use them and make such a generator. Nothing stands in the way. I don't know why you raise such a Saskia scream :) .

    Only it is not known if such a generator will work for him.

    I do not know about the others, but I do not plan to do such a generator because in my opinion I do not see the point. But if someone wants to do it, let him do it. If he has time and money, I don't see any obstacles.
  • #48 12987289
    saskia
    Level 39  
    I don't raise an alarm, and I have nothing against you.
    I meant the general approach of forum users to this type of topic, where instead of explanations, for example, how to process magnets, or explanations, for example, magnetism or gravity is sent the questioner to primary or secondary school (where nothing specific was described), and the theories taught had no factual evidence, or the topic was completely unknown.

    I think that even with such exotic topics one can normally answer humanly, instead of assuming ignorance or ignorance about a topic that few have any idea whatsoever. :-)
  • #49 12987291
    Radd
    Level 13  
    Grzegorz740 wrote:
    After all, there were already links with descriptions and photos, the author of the topic can use them and make such a generator. Nothing stands in the way.


    The author of the topic simply and I do not want to offend anyone, built stupidity without deeper reflection. He only built it so that the tubes with magnets inside would hold onto the magnetic circle and that's it. If you only want a magnet to attract a magnet, and you have no idea about electricity or physics, and you don't look at what is happening during motion and how it is set in motion, you only get it.
    Therefore, I think that it makes no sense to build something that you do not know until you understand the principle of operation of all gears, and you only know the external appearance.
  • #50 12987324
    saskia
    Level 39  
    Radd wrote:
    Grzegorz740 wrote:
    After all, there were already links with descriptions and photos, the author of the topic can use them and make such a generator. Nothing stands in the way.


    The author of the topic simply and I do not want to offend anyone, built stupidity without deeper reflection. He only built it so that the tubes with magnets inside would hold onto the magnetic circle and that's it. If you only want a magnet to attract a magnet, and you have no idea about electricity or physics, and you don't look at what is happening during motion and how it is set in motion, you only get it.
    Therefore, I think that it makes no sense to build something that you do not know until you understand the principle of operation of all gears, and you only know the external appearance.


    All these gears are all about. They must first be explained or recognized, each separately, and then all together to claim that it makes no sense.
    Those who assume in advance that it makes no sense should not speak up, because then it will be pointless to speak up. :-)
  • #51 12987408
    Radd
    Level 13  
    Exactly saskia If you could find willing and honest people with passion, maybe I would give a few tips about which gears are going and what I was able to deduce, but I know that you should look for such gears.
  • #52 12990679
    _jta_
    Electronics specialist
    With Free Energy devices, as a rule, some scammer has figured out a way to convince people that he has a device that gives energy for free; and someone who has been deceived expecting that such a device can be built, only one needs to know a few details - so he asks about them; but this device is a fiction and attempts to build it have no chance of success - what you build can meet many conditions, but not one that works as the scammer claims. A separate thing is that those who ask such details generally have very little knowledge, do not know many elementary concepts, do not even understand what they want to ask - and formulate questions so that it is not known what they mean - so how to answer here? What to say to Pinocchio asking for directions to the Field of Miracles, about which the Cat and the Fox told him that it would be enough to bury a coin there to grow a tree of coins? That there is no field, that he has been deceived? He doesn't want to believe it - it's too hard to part with the dream that he will get rich easily and quickly.
  • #53 12990738
    saskia
    Level 39  
    I think the forum is not to convert people from the wrong path, but to explain to them the details they ask about.
    In the course of such, even stupid questions, you can learn a lot on other topics, and at the same time everyone broadens their knowledge on various topics.
    The whole device may be a fiction, but checking and investigating details often leads to a better understanding of other accompanying phenomena, and thus to their use in completely different fields.
    So generally speaking, such topics are not completely meaningless.
    Provided that factual answers are given.

    Based on my own experience in construction work, I know that often an apparently stupid idea may have an ideal application in a completely different field or situation.
    You would be surprised if you had the opportunity to test at my construction sites how a combination of several different "stupid" ideas and pain simple ideas can facilitate the work and achieve long-term results better than professional and standard methods.

    Added after 17 [minutes]:

    Don't write that something is impossible. Provide your version or calculations and at best add that according to the current available knowledge, the calculations do not match, and if you see any arc that can be checked, then a hint, where to look for inaccuracies or disagreements with the way of calculating the detail.
    there are often combinations of phenomena that cannot be calculated with known formulas, but one could, for example, modify these formulas, if only by trial, to see what will come of it.
    You have a lot of knowledge, but as if you are afraid of the results of its exploitation. :-)

    As far as Pinocchio is concerned, you have to decide whether rapidly taking his dreams away from him is better than teaching him gardening slowly. :-)

    Added after 31 [minutes]:

    If this forum is to serve as an advisory board, it means that it has an educational form, so any non-educational statements should not take place.

    There are no stupid questions, but there can be stupid answers. :-)
  • #54 12990953
    _jta_
    Electronics specialist
    saskia - In general, I try to give factual answers, but it is only possible when: (1) you know what someone is asking about - if the question is unclear, I need to clarify it, and if the author of the question himself does not understand it, then maybe there is no chance of it; (2) the question is about reality, not imaginations.

    Modification of a known formula usually results in a contradiction with known (although sometimes not very commonly) facts. I have already written many times where these contradictions appear and how they show that something cannot work. And I am already too tired to want to describe it again or look for it.
  • #55 12991003
    saskia
    Level 39  
    If you don't have the strength to repeat, just skip what you don't have the strength to do.
    Nobody requires you to hurt yourself and answer all questions. :-)
    I know there are sometimes responses that force response-answers, but if everyone adheres to writing solely about the subject of the question, not the writer and his or her level of education, we will all have a clear topic and easier answers.
    Any personal mention causes an increase in the number of posts in the topic in which the important ones are lost.

    I'm writing with you right now, but this applies to everyone, so don't take it too personally.
  • #56 12991631
    e8500
    Level 15  
    Hello
    I did not think that I would raise the subject so much. If this generator existed, the authorities of various countries would make such a generator in order to, for example, fly into space or fight with other countries. Iran has enough money to build hundreds of these generators.
    I found a company in Poland, the largest magnet they can make for 200mm and that's what I order. Anyone reading the article knows that the number 12 or higher must be used. I made a small applet in exel in which the number 12 is entered and what magnets are supposed to come out for. I am in the process of creating an infostki.pl website with information about this generator. It's not about money or if it's some fake, I know that a magnet is a magnet and each magnet has its own magnetic points, it is enough to calculate the number of points on the ring for each of the rollers. I was able to make a mini version at around 30mm but the speed was such that it made a hole in the monitor and I was lucky that I was not there. magnets must be made to the finer micron. The rollers must not touch the ring, it must be 0.3mm away from it. the rollers will be mounted on a solid ceramic bearing.
    below is a cross-section of the generator that I made and drew quickly.

    Free Energy: Exploring and Discussing the Searl Generator's Magnets, Rings & Rollers
  • #57 12991650
    saskia
    Level 39  
    With this 200mm magnet, be careful with your fingers as they can get too flat to be used for something.
  • #58 12992369
    e8500
    Level 15  
    I added a gnerator pic that I made and someone will delete it with the message.
  • #59 12992439
    saskia
    Level 39  
    Correct the post, because this one will also disappear.
  • #60 12994891
    zimny8
    Level 33  
    Known forces delete posts to stop progress, moderators have nothing to do with it :) .
    There was a time when I only used free energy (in my father's house) but that was over quickly :( , because of some conspiracy (of course), I had to go on my own.

Topic summary

The discussion revolves around the Searl Effect Generator (SEG), a device purported to generate free energy using magnets, rings, and rollers. Participants express skepticism about its feasibility, citing a lack of credible information on its construction and operation. Some contributors mention the need for specific materials and designs, such as the use of neodymium magnets and the importance of magnetic fields. Others argue that the device is a scam, pointing out that no successful prototypes have been demonstrated despite decades of claims. The conversation also touches on the principles of magnetism, energy generation, and the challenges of creating a working model. A few participants suggest theoretical approaches to powering the generator, while others emphasize the necessity of scientific knowledge and practical experience in building such devices.
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