Is the blind motor with slat rotation compatible with the PLC2011A0/PLC2011B0?

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Hello, I own a flat where I am installing a smart home system based on PLC controllers (PLC2011A0 and PLC2011B0). I’ve got the lighting and socket power supply sorted. I control the radiators using Honeywell actuators. The flat is mainly heated by radiators, though I also have underfloor heating...

Anonymous · Accepted Answer

They all work on the same principle. The only difference is in the speed at which they lift and rotate.

duddy · Answer

Window tilt actuator:

Anonymous · Answer

Firstly, roller blinds do not have slats. Venetian blinds have slats. Every Venetian blind has slat control, but this won’t work unless it’s possible to send a pulse within the range of 0.2–0.3 seconds.

jach49 · Answer

Of course, I’m talking about blinds I understand that every motor has this capability? Unfortunately, I don’t understand that.In the instructions for the blind controllers, I saw that three wires (up/down) (and N), just like with roller shutters. Does the controller for changing the slat angle send a signal – perhaps a modulated, digital one – to the mechanism? How does the mechanism know when to move the slats? I simply don’t know whether it’s possible to force a change in the slat angle by applying a voltage to the mechanism? And for both up and down movements, at that.

Anonymous · Answer

There’s nothing like that. The motor is connected to the mechanism, which both raises and rotates the slats. If the blind is in the lowered position and the window is covered, then when voltage is applied, the slats will first open (approx. 1 sec.) and then be raised. If the blinds are raised, when power is applied, the slats will first move to the ‘closed’ position and then begin to lower. Generally, the control is simple: a pulse lasting more than 1 second raises or lowers the blind, whilst pulses lasting less than 1 second rotate the slats.If it takes 1 second for the slats to move from the closed to the open position: 1. a 0.5-second pulse will set the slats at an angle of approximately 45 degrees.2. a 0.3-second pulse will set the slats at an angle of approximately 30 degrees.

jach49 · Answer

The control system looks really cool; now the only question is whether the PLC2011A0 can handle it (whether it can produce such short pulses).
Can you recommend a motor, or does it not matter and do they all have the same control system?

jach49 · Answer

I’m currently wondering how to create ‘leaving home’ and ‘arriving home’ buttons.
I’m wondering if it’s possible to do this so that, if I have more than one PLC2011A0 and B0, I can programme a single input on each A0, on which all outputs depend. However, could I programme the A0 responsible for the lighting so that, in addition to its ‘normal’ operation, when the input is set to ‘leaving home’, all outputs can be controlled, for example, by a solar calendar?
The idea is that when the ‘leaving home’ status is active, A0 opens the blinds, switches the lights on and off at the appropriate times (basically simulating a presence).

Anonymous · Answer

This will simply be a variation on lights and blinds. It has nothing to do with presence simulation. Presence simulation is meant to mimic your behaviour, not just switch the lights on or lower/raise the blinds at random.

jach49 · Answer

I don’t really understand why there’s a variation for the lights and blinds?
When I leave home, say for a week, I’d like the lights to switch on at a specific time, the blinds to close in the evening and open in the morning (to simulate someone being at home).

Anonymous · Answer

Do you switch the light on at the same time every day? Do you go to the loo at the same time every day?A presence simulation is meant to switch the lights on differently on Saturdays or Sundays than during the week. Differently in summer and differently in winter. At least, that’s how normal presence simulations work. To make it even more fun, in KNX the user does nothing apart from pressing a single button. To make it even more fun, the installer also does practically nothing and doesn’t have to programme any complicated functions or procedures. Of course, it’s good when the presence simulation can switch on the TV and change channels. Naturally, it can also switch it off at different times – at 23:45 on a Saturday and, for example, at 21:58 on a Wednesday.Burglars aren’t idiots.

jach49 · Answer

I didn’t reply for a while because I was away.
Yes, I get up at the same time every day and go to the loo at the same time every day. A bit of a bore, perhaps. I tried out this controller at a friend’s place – it’s really worth it. A brilliant bit of kit, and the PLC2011C0 with LED strip support is absolutely brilliant.

Anonymous · Answer

Well, the ID at PLC2011 is now a thing of the past. It lost out to the cheaper and more capable Sterbox.

neodym · Answer

To control the lighting, you’ll need a PLC2011C0: flat is on one A0 and one C0, without an alarm. The C0 also has more thermostats, outputs for controlling roller blinds, etc.

siwy337 · Answer

I’m also fascinated by the smart home system based on the PLC 2011A0 controller.I’m building a house and intend to use this solution; however, although the manufacturer provides examples of connections , I’m not sure how to connect this controller to bistable relays, such as this one bistable-relay-pbm-01-zamel .I’d need a wiring diagram for such a connection – for example, how to do it using, say, diagrams no. 4 or no. 7 from the website mentioned above.And one more thing: the diagrams suggest that five-core cables would be required; does anyone know how to make these connections using three or four cores?? Please help.

neodym · Answer

Run a 3x1.5 cable from the junction box to the light fitting
Run a 3x1.5 cable from the junction box to the first cross-switch, then continue with the same 3-core cable until you reach the staircase

http://www.elkom.com.tw/m/PLC2011A0_PLC2011B0_PLC2011C0_circuits.pdf

Diagrams 12, 13, 14 and 15. This is the same as 4

jach49 · Answer

The PLC manufacturer has been very helpful and assisted us in finding a solution.

Is the blind motor with slat rotation compatible with the PLC2011A0/PLC2011B0?

Can PLC2011A0/PLC2011B0 controllers operate a blind motor that both raises/lowers the blind and rotates the slats, and which actuator should be used for automatic window tilting?

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