Wiring Diagram for 13-Pin Trailer Socket Connection (Germany)

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I am urgently looking for a diagram of connecting the 13-pin socket (Germany) to the trailer. Please help.

Heroses · Answer

To be honest, I've never seen a nest like this before. As a rule, they all have the same descriptions of the pins, so in order
30 > Weight
58 L > left parking light
58 R > Right parking lamp
54 > STOP
L > Left turn signal
R > Right turn signal
+ or 54+ > Auxiliary lamp (fog lamp)

These are the basic lights that entitle you to move on the roads.

k3048 · Answer

here you have 7 and 8 pin, but 13 ?? and yet there is such a thing, it can use an adapter from 13/7

staszekel · Answer

13 pin socket connection:
pin. no. - description
1. 44L - left direction indicator,
2. 52 - rear fog lights,
3. 31 - common ground for terminals (1-8),
4. 44R - right direction indicator,
5. 58R - right position light,
6. 54 - brake light,
7. 58L - left position light,
8. 62 - reversing light,
9. (+) -plus from the battery terminal,
10. (+) -plus after switching the ignition switch,
11. free - reserve,
12. free - reserve,
13. 31 - common ground for terminals (9-12).

This is how the 13-pin socket with tin-plated wire ends should be connected.
Wire colors vary from country to country.
With us, I suggest black or brown for a mass with a larger cross-section than the others, because the mass is common and a greater current flows through this wire than in the others.
I suggest (0.75mm^2) and for mass 1mm^2. With smaller cross-sections, there will be greater voltage drops and the cable will work as a resistance, which can be seen in the form of oxidized wires. I think it's all about the socket.
It is good to protect them from getting water.
Kind regards.

borbet · Answer

I have 2 questions: 1. Can connectors 3 and 13 (mass) be shorted together in the socket? I connect the 13 pin volvo V70 socket (to the factory connector) and there is only 1 thick mass (approximately 4mm^2) and I will use the same cross-section for pin no. 4. It may be better to lead an additional cable from pin 13 (e.g. 2.5mm^ 2) and screw somewhere to the ground of the car? 2. What should pin 2a (anti-fog return) be connected to? Volvo did not provide such a pin in the hook cube, so maybe it will not be needed. Make a spare wire? Thanks in advance for your answers PZDR

viper555 · Answer

Of course they can be connected together, the only question is whether you will be driving with a caravan because pins 9-13 are intended for this, therefore such a mass cross-section, if not, these pins are unnecessary. Secondly, if you have a socket without a detachable fog lamp, the return will be unnecessary on the trailer and the car.P

borbet · Answer

I am improving the nest after the tinkers and I want to do it properly and developmentally. Maybe someday I'll pull a house on wheels... As for the cross-section of this 2nd mass, do 2.5 or 4mm^2? And as for the PM, it is somehow disconnected by the electronics of the car, but I would have to upload some soft in ASO or non-ASO. It will turn out after plugging in the fuse and the test with the PM turned on. PZDR

viper555 · Answer

If you want original, then 13-4mm², while 3-2.5mm² is the maximum and it's best to connect each separately to ground.P

borbet · Answer

Or is it better the other way around? I will mainly use the 7pin adapter, i.e. ground 3 will be in use. At the factory, the mass in the hook harness connector is 4mm^2 and there is only one mass. Or maybe for 3 and 13 give 4mm^2? PZDR

viper555 · Answer

Why correct the original.P

borbet · Answer

The original is for a plug with pins to which the hook harness connector plugs. I have the original hook, but the socket was poorly made. I've already made a mega-beam with pluses and one mass 2.5mm^2 the second mass 4mm^2 and the rest 1.5mm^2 (including 2 free pins). The cross-sections per eye are comparable to those in the original connector (not to be confused with the socket) of the hook. Now you have to pull it through the trunk opening and attach it to the hook connector. PZDR

Pejter_aggro · Answer

commercially available cubes that can be attached to the lamps and then everything looks elegant and professional. This is the solution I used in Sharan

Serwik · Answer

I am refreshing the topic, maybe someone will find the current link with the diagram and description of the euro socket useful:

viper555 · Answer

In what car.P

bjorn1954 · Answer

It was ok in Kangoo, but for some time it started to happen like this, and maybe the rear fog light has an impact on it, because when I turn it on, the front lights up and the back does not, I checked the bulb is ok, where to look, where to start

Added after 2 [minutes]:

it happens as if the current was missing a bulb because this is usually what happens when a bulb burns out, then other directions shine with a higher frequency

bjorn1954 · Answer

Can I ask someone who knows about electricity to tell me if it is possible to connect a bundle of wires from the hook socket directly to the wires at the lamp without the need to have a jaeger relay. It is practically unavailable, and I have a harness to the hook where this relay should be.

Zico63 · Answer

And what car is it?
In vehicles without a CAN bus, you can simply, and in new ones with such a bus (bus), there must be a controller, the computer will read the connection of an additional load as a "failure"

bjorn1954 · Answer

This is a French Renault Kangoo from 2000. I know that there is a place for the Jaeger driver in the bundle, but I don't know if there is a can rail.

Przemo9826 · Answer

In this vintage, you can go ahead and join the installation of lamps.

mgen · Answer

And I have another minor problem but also with the 13p dice ;)

Auto - OPEL VECTRA C (with factory module)
In the 13-pin cube, my STOP light disappears. i.e. when you press the brake and hold, the light in the trailer comes on and disappears after a second. The rest of the lights are ok.
Because I have to tow a trailer before I diagnose this module, do you think it will be very bad if I take the STOP itself from the rear lamp but only to control the relay coil, which will give + to the STOP of the trailer from e.g. the battery?
Such a car relay loads the installation in mA, so the vehicle's computer should not detect it.

Zico63 · Answer

It may be, I think: 42W of a trailer STOP is only 3.5A, and even a miniature relay that takes milliamps can handle that much. And the plus is in the nest!

mgen · Answer

Rightly! Thanks.

ziemek56 · Answer

And my question is:
I want to attach the "old" 7 pin socket next to the 13 pin socket (factory in Renault Kangoo) so that I can tow a regular trailer. I have both pins.
Can I just connect the taps to the back of the socket?
Won't the computer growl. because he senses the "stranger"?

Sorry to revive an old topic but a new one
Thank you very much, Ziemowit.

Zico63 · Answer

If there is a computer - the socket should be connected via a module to the CAN system (or with a different name, but separating the socket from the installation) and then connecting the next socket will be "ganz egal" to the computer; when there is no computer on board - it is all the more indifferent. However, a note applies to both cases: you should pin the load ( read . trailer) to only one at a time socket, for reasons of electrical strength of the wires.
But I have another suggestion: "adapter-adapter - 13pin/7pin" - after putting these words by a friend in Google, everything will be clear.

ziemek56 · Answer

I've heard about the adapter, but a typical blonde will drive and that's why I prefer to do it in a peasant way. Of course, only one plugin at a time.
Beautiful thanks. I'm doing it tomorrow or Monday. After checking, of course, I will send a message in the subject. Ziemowit.

Zico63 · Answer

I will supplement my previous post. Well, someone might think about my post: "Is he crazy? What does he write, what two trailers at once?”
Well, I recently saw (I drove past several intersections) a Fiat Doblo pulling a trailer with a load covering the factory trailer lamps. The owner came up with a similar idea, he set up two sockets - to the second one he connected the so-called "beam", i.e. lamps mounted on a beam made of a board or some profile, repeating the factory trailer lamps. He had a good idea, but he executed it tragically: he probably hooked "live" to the wires to the lamps of the vehicle, already powered by threadlike Fiat wires - instead of professionally making new, thick cables, power sockets and on relays (something like a module for CAN ). As a result, nothing shone as it should: car lamps, trailers and beams barely glowed (e.g. when braking + direction indicators) and what happened to the vehicle's cables - scary to think.
Hence my comments.

ziemek56 · Answer

I also often use the beam, especially when you need to quickly and ... poop in the trailer. But then only a beam - obvious to me. Thank you again.

PKi · Answer

Hello, what fuses to protect the permanent plus and plus after the ignition switch?

Zico63 · Answer

Depending on the equipment used and the connection method (e.g. contact 15 is it through a relay; in fact, it should always be like this!) - I would recommend not to exceed 20A per thirty - constant plus and 15A on 15 plus after the station. More is not needed and it will not stand the socket / plug either!

goliat777 · Answer

what is this gray contactor with two gray cables for. when i put the plug in what does it turn on.???

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