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Enabling Optical Output on Samsung UE40ES6100 TV for Sound Connection with HT-TZ215 Home Theater

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  • #1 12789570
    arab_123
    Level 9  
    I had a problem with connecting the home theater to the TV using an optical cable, the so-called. Toslink, because the sound was not reaching the cinema. The problem has been solved because I connected the TV with the cinema with the Euro->chinch cable and the sound is there, but it still bothers me. So yes: the TV is Samsung UE40ES6100 and the cinema is Samsung HT-TZ215. The TV has an output and the cinema has an optical input. The cinema is definitely well connected, the cable is also functional (when they were connected to a desktop computer, everything worked), but when connected to the TV, nothing can be heard. Hence my question now: Does anyone have this or a similar TV model and could tell me how to "turn on" this optical output on the TV, because I have already tried various combinations in the TV menu and either the sound was only from the TV speakers or not at all. Thanks in advance for your answers.
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  • #2 12789621
    maystero
    Level 24  
    Check on the TV that the SPDI/F lights up red. As far as I know, SPDI/F always works regardless of the settings. If it does not work, it was usually the SPDI / F transmitter that needed to be replaced.
  • #3 12789699
    arab_123
    Level 9  
    The socket is red and so is the cable. When I plug the cable into the socket on the TV, the other end of the cable also glows red.
  • #4 12789736
    kry1972
    Level 18  
    Hello, after pressing SOURCE on the remote control, the source of the connection on the tv is shown?
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  • #5 12789750
    maystero
    Level 24  
    arab_123 wrote:
    The socket glows red, so does the cable. When I plug the cable into the socket on the TV, the other end of the cable also glows red.


    In my opinion, the SPDI / F socket on the TV is damaged
  • #6 12789811
    arab_123
    Level 9  
    kry1972 wrote:
    Hello, after pressing SOURCE on the remote control, the source of the connection on the tv is shown?


    No. When I press SOURCE on the remote control, it does not appear that there is something new connected.


    maystero wrote:
    In my opinion, the SPDI / F socket on the TV is damaged


    I've already begun to suspect that the socket is damaged. If so, what should be done?
  • #7 12789823
    KOCUREK1970
    Network and Internet specialist
    maystero wrote:
    Check on the TV that the SPDI/F lights up red.

    maystero wrote:
    If it does not work, it was usually the SPDI / F transmitter that needed to be replaced.

    arab_123 wrote:
    The socket is red and so is the cable. When I plug the cable into the socket on the TV, the other end of the cable also glows red.

    maystero wrote:
    In my opinion, the SPDI / F socket on the TV is damaged

    If these questions and answers were taken at least on "peasant reason", it doesn't hold together, let alone when you think about it :) .
  • #8 12790057
    arab_123
    Level 9  
    KOCUREK1970 wrote:
    If these questions and answers were taken at least on "peasant reason", it doesn't hold together, let alone when you think about it :) .


    And what is it about these questions and answers "doesn't hold together"? Tell me what you don't understand and I'll try to explain it differently :)
  • #9 12790064
    maystero
    Level 24  
    KOCUREK1970 wrote:
    If these questions and answers were taken at least on "peasant reason", it doesn't hold together, let alone when you think about it :) .


    A friend is smart and knows how it works (and I'm not talking about the dolby digital spdif standard) SPDI / F?
    NO?
    I'll explain this to you in a peasant way:
    the element that glows red has three pins. Power, weight, date. The power supply is usually +5V in the TV (3.3V in some STBs). And on PIN date through a 1-1.5k resistor comes a digital signal from the CPU or encoder.
    If SPDI/F does not work then:
    - for example, there is no short circuit on the Pins (free from the factory)
    - lights up and does not work (90% damaged) socket
    - once I had a case that the 1.5k resistor was damaged
    - otherwise CPU or encoder
  • #10 12790221
    arab_123
    Level 9  
    Colleague Kocurek is probably the type of person to whom everything needs to be explained very carefully from A to Z and preferably "by book and definition" because otherwise it is incomprehensible. Just like my cousin. I will never forget how once he wanted to buy a BluRay player and asked me how to connect it (except for the fact that he is a bit dummy when it comes to electronic devices). I tell him, just connect the hdmi cable to the tv and it will work. He bought it, plugged it in, calls me that it doesn't work and that I come to see what's going on. I tell him turn on the tv and player. He turned on terrestrial TV. I say to him "Change the input on the remote control, click SOURCE and select the source" and he to me: "See, you didn't tell me that you have to press anything, just plug it in". No, my hands fell off :) And back to the topic, what do you propose to do in such a situation maystero? Did you say something about a transmitter? I don't know that much about these things, so maybe you could shed some light on it for me. Thanks in advance.
  • #11 12790406
    KOCUREK1970
    Network and Internet specialist
    arab_123 wrote:
    Colleague Kocurek is probably the type of person to whom everything needs to be explained very carefully from A to Z and preferably "by book and definition" because otherwise it is incomprehensible.

    I meant the logicality of the statement, which not only describes everything, but is also incoherent.
    By the way, mister know-it-all, if you know everything so well, what's the point of this topic?
    Making personal attacks on another user is against the rules of this forum.
    With the scope of my knowledge, my colleague does not match my heels, so spare yourself such accusations.
  • #12 12791031
    arab_123
    Level 9  
    But I didn't mean to offend anyone. If you feel offended, I'm sorry, but it's just comments like yours that make me laugh. I wrote what the problem is and that's it. maystero and kry1972 somehow had no problems understanding what I meant, and I had no problem with maystero's answers either. And I admit my knowledge in this area is not too great, that's why I started the topic, wanting to get an explanation, and you started mocking instead of trying to help or at least understand the essence of the problem. And I know that sometimes my translations may not be written in a super way, but I always thought that it's not about writing dot by dot and step by step when something doesn't work because the most important thing is the very essence of the problem. And as I wrote earlier, others were able to understand my statement and you started mocking, and I immediately associated it with a funny story because my cousin also needs to have everything explained from cover to cover. So, as I wrote at the beginning, if I offended you, it was really unintentional.
  • #13 12791279
    KOCUREK1970
    Network and Internet specialist
    We still don't understand each other in statements, but that's not your problem.
    You didn't offend me - cool.
    But since the audio port on the TV generates a "light", and the cable was checked, because:
    arab_123 wrote:
    the cable is also functional (when they were connected to a desktop computer everything worked),

    and with KD everything is connected correctly, it can be assumed that from the technical side everything is ok, so this 1% can only be that something has not been turned on/started somewhere in the menu of one or the other device.
    Please check in the tv menu if the SPDiF socket is enabled, and the tv sends a data stream to this socket (sometimes when this socket is activated, we automatically turn off the speakers in the tv), please also make sure that this port is is running in KD.
    It is also worth connecting something else to the optical cable coming to the KD, e.g. a DVD with this port, and check if it works.
    Modern TVs more and more often force you to specify the connected equipment under the TV, i.e. the TV must first detect what is connected to a given port, accept it, and only then allow you to run the appropriate functions for this port.
    arab_123 wrote:
    and you started laughing

    Not ridiculing, but I indicated in that statement that the information provided already allows you to exclude certain conditions, dependencies that mutually already indicate what can be rejected.
    arab_123 wrote:
    Colleague Kocurek is probably the type of person to whom everything needs to be explained very carefully from A to Z and preferably "by book and definition" because otherwise it is incomprehensible.

    The friend himself is not without fault.
    arab_123 wrote:
    And I know that sometimes my translations may not be written in a great way, but I always thought that it's not about writing dot by dot and step by step when something doesn't work because the essence of the problem is the most important thing.

    If you expect a precise hint, then present the problem as precisely as possible!
    I, for my part, consider the exchange of opinions, which brings nothing to the subject, as closed.
    Let's get back to the problem, arguing and teasing will not help anyone, and even discourage further statements.
    I apologize to the moderators and users.
    Kind regards.
  • #14 12791871
    arab_123
    Level 9  
    KOCUREK1970 wrote:
    Please check in the tv menu if the SPDiF socket is enabled and the tv sends a data stream to this socket (sometimes when this socket is activated, we automatically turn off the speakers in the tv), please also make 100% sure that this port is is running in KD.


    I set the home theater so that the word "D.IN" was displayed on the display. And when I connected the optical cable to the optical output on the desktop computer and plugged the cable into the optical socket in the cinema, there was sound, so I decided that the TV was the culprit. As for the menu on the TV: in the "Sound" menu there is an option for the SPDiF socket and I can choose PCM or Dolby Digital there, but it does not work on any of the options. There is also an option to choose TV speakers or external speakers, but after changing to external, the TV speakers turn off and only silence flows from the cinema.

    KOCUREK1970 wrote:
    It is also worth connecting something else to the optical cable coming to the KD, e.g. a DVD with this port, and check if it works.


    As I wrote above. I connected this cable to the computer to the cinema and it works. I also wanted to try other devices, but unfortunately in my house only the computer and the TV have such optical outputs.

    KOCUREK1970 wrote:
    Modern TVs more and more often force you to specify the connected equipment under the TV, i.e. the TV must first detect what is connected to a given port, accept it, and only then allow you to run the appropriate functions for this port.


    If I understand correctly (if wrong, please correct me :) ) that the point is that if I connect the cable to the tv, it should be "visible" to the tv if I press SOURCE on the remote control and select the appropriate option. If that's the case, I'd say no. After connecting this optical cable, the TV does not see it and other devices, such as a satellite tuner, see it as HDMI.

    KOCUREK1970 wrote:
    If you expect a precise hint, then present the problem as precisely as possible!


    This is actually partly my fault. I probably described the problem a little more thoroughly in another topic the day before and I didn't write everything precisely in this topic and probably hence the misunderstanding. But as you wrote, I am 99% sure that the TV is to blame and that either something is wrongly set or I cannot turn on the appropriate option or that the optical socket on the TV is damaged (I have ruled out other possibilities but I am not an expert so I may be wrong I can :) ).

    And in order not to write a post under a post, I will ask one more question. With the connection of the cinema to the TV that I have now, i.e. Euro->Chinch (sound output from the euro on the TV, input on chinchaches via aux to the cinema) I noticed that when watching terrestrial TV, I have sound on the cinema, but there is no sound when I want to play something from a pendrive connected under the TV. Is it possible to change it somehow or it just has to be like that because the sound via Euro is sent to the cinema only when watching terrestrial TV? Thanks in advance for your answers. I wrote this post a bit too quicklyso now if something is incomprehensible, I ask for understanding and at most I will try to explain again what and how :)
  • #15 12792044
    KOCUREK1970
    Network and Internet specialist
    From the user manual (I hope Colleague read!?).
    "The available digital audio output format (SPDIF) depends on the input source."
    Perhaps it is so that it does not work, because nothing in DD is broadcast on TV, because my colleague does not count on the fact that anything is broadcast on terrestrial TV in 5.1.
    Do such an experiment, connect the computer to the TV with an HDMI cable, and then try to check with this sound, also remember that what you check (audio or video material) should be with DD, 5.1 sound.
    There is also new software for this tv!.
    You can also reset the TV to factory settings and then try again.
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  • #16 12792077
    arab_123
    Level 9  
    KOCUREK1970 wrote:
    "The available digital audio output format (SPDIF) depends on the input source." Perhaps it is so that it does not work, because nothing in DD is broadcast on TV, because my colleague does not count on the fact that anything is broadcast on terrestrial TV in 5.1.


    Also at first I thought that maybe it's because nothing is broadcast from terrestrial in Dolby Digital and therefore it doesn't work, but then I plugged in a USB flash drive with a movie that was 5.1 (Dolby Digital) and still nothing from the sound.
  • #17 12792107
    KOCUREK1970
    Network and Internet specialist
    arab_123 wrote:
    then I plugged in a USB flash drive with a movie that was just 5.1 (Dolby Digital) and still no sound.

    But here there may be a problem of this type, that the USB port does not read 5.1 sound, and converts it only to 2.0.
    Also try this:
    Press the RETURN button for about 10 seconds. and the "Internal Diagnostics" menu appears, press ok and wait. Write what came out of it.
    Also reset the tv, try to upload the latest soft, maybe there is a bug in the old software.
  • #18 12792185
    arab_123
    Level 9  
    KOCUREK1970 wrote:
    But here there may be a problem of this type, that the USB port does not read 5.1 sound, and converts it only to 2.0.


    Hmm, maybe I'm wrong, but since the USB port converts the sound from 5.1 to 2.0, then at least two front speakers should not play? And I also tried movies with two-channel sound (2.0) and it didn't work either.

    KOCUREK1970 wrote:
    Also try this: Press the RETURN button for about 10 seconds. and the "Internal diagnostics" menu appears, press ok and wait. Write what happened. Also reset the tv, try to upload the latest soft, maybe there is a bug in the old software.


    I'll try what you say tomorrow because I don't have the strength for this cinema today.

    All in all, this sound via the Euro cable does not bother me because if I set the CINEMA mode on the cinema, the sound is still satisfactory to me (then all speakers play :) ) but simply this optical output intrigued me a bit, hence my questions. Only now is that when I turn on the movie from the pendrive, after Euro->chinch I do not play cinema. I also tried to connect the jack->chinch cable (to the headphone output on the TV and to the chinch input in the cinema), but one forum member wrote to me not to connect it like that because the sensitivity of the socket on the headphone output is different or something like that. What do you think about it? Can you hook it up like that or rather not so much?
  • #19 12792266
    KOCUREK1970
    Network and Internet specialist
    arab_123 wrote:
    I also tried to connect the jack->chinch cable (to the headphone output on the TV and to the chinch input in the cinema), but one forum member wrote to me not to connect it like that because the sensitivity of the socket on the headphone output is different or something like that

    He probably meant the resistance of such a socket in relation to the headphones, and in relation to the connection for other equipment.
    arab_123 wrote:
    What do you think about it? Can you hook it up like that or rather not so much?

    Feel free to connect!
    I also have a headphone output in the monitor, supposedly only, and for 2 years, a set of computer speakers has been "flying" under this socket and nothing is happening.
    arab_123 wrote:
    I'll try what you say tomorrow because I don't have the strength for this cinema today.

    It was with this connection test that it was about tv!,
    you have to do the test there.
  • #20 12792307
    arab_123
    Level 9  
    KOCUREK1970 wrote:
    It was with this connection test that it was about tv!,
    you have to do the test there.


    Yes, I know, I made a typo. I was thinking TV and I wrote "cinema" :) And probably after these tomorrow's tests, if the optical output still does not surprise, I think I'll give it a rest. And since you write that it can run smoothly on the headphone output and there should be no problems, I think I'll stay with this connection. Anyway, thanks for your help and information. I'll try it tomorrow and let you know if it helped.
    Regards :)

    EDIT:
    So I did this diagnostic, (return for 10 sec) but it didn't do anything. A message popped up something like that everything is fine and that no problems were found. I also did a sound diagnostic from the TV menu (the test sound comes from the TV speakers, but after changing to external speakers, nothing is heard). When the TV asked "is the problem still there" I confirmed but only the message to "check the operation of the external device" popped up. As for changing the software: I've never done it on such a TV (smart tv), and I wouldn't want to spoil anything, so let everything stay as it is. And since my colleague Kocurek wrote that after the jack->chinch cable on the headphone output, he can work calmly and without fear, so I think I'll give it a rest and I won't do anything, because the sound as it is now is still satisfying to me. Thanks for all the replies, but if anyone else has any other ideas feel free to post. Many thanks again for your help :)
  • #21 12793508
    deus.ex.machina
    Level 32  
    This output will probably be active only when using the built-in digital tuner - you didn't write and from what I've read you didn't mention in what mode you receive programs - if it's cable and you receive analog services, the output will rather remain inactive.
  • #22 12794227
    arab_123
    Level 9  
    Well, then you must have misread my posts buddy deus.ex.machina :) I watch it all the time from the tuner built into the TV :)

    arab_123 wrote:
    And in order not to write a post under a post, I will ask one more question. With the connection of the cinema to the TV that I have now, i.e. Euro->Chinch (sound output from the euro on TV, input on chinches via aux to the cinema) I noticed that while watching terrestrial TV I have sound on the cinema, but there is no sound when I want to play something from a flash drive connected to the TV.
  • #23 12796543
    Anonymous
    Level 1  
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  • #24 12796575
    arab_123
    Level 9  
    _cheetah_ wrote:
    You wrote that the sound was from the PC - in what format was the computer transmitting (PCM or RAW (DolbyDigital)?


    Hmm, I don't remember now, but the sound was definitely coming from the front two speakers. Except that I think I tested it on some movie that only has 2 channels of sound. I'll check again, but it seemed to me that if at least these 2 front speakers were playing with the computer connected, it should also be so with the TV.
  • #25 12796646
    Anonymous
    Level 1  
  • #26 12796925
    arab_123
    Level 9  
    _cheetah_ wrote:
    The appropriate audio format for RAW must be selected on the TV by selecting the appropriate Audio track from the remote control. Different channels broadcast Dolby sound differently - either DD or DD+ or both.


    I mean after connecting to the TV and setting the Polsat channel where a movie in Dolby Digital was playing (I know it was in DD because next to the name of the channel instead of "Stereo" it was written "Dolby Digital") and after various changes in the "sound" menu, i.e. there was just something like you wrote PCM and Dolby Digital but after selecting any of the options nothing happened and there was no sound. I also selected "External Speakers" but still nothing.

    _cheetah_ wrote:
    Do you have the latest firmware on the TV?
    Have you contacted Samsung support?


    I don't think it's the newest one, and I didn't contact you because I thought that I would somehow solve this problem myself. Anyway, the TV is not really mine, but my father's, so if he can and will want to play it further, he may contact the service. :)
  • #27 12797011
    Anonymous
    Level 1  
  • #28 12797208
    Pablo1964
    Moderator
    Be sure to check in manual whether the optical output does not require additional activation in the tv menu. I do not know this receiver, but it may turn out that the selection of external speakers and the type of signal fed to the output is not enough.
  • #29 12797456
    Anonymous
    Level 1  
  • #30 12797947
    arab_123
    Level 9  
    _cheetah_ wrote:
    Anyway - check how you broadcast from the PC and you need to try to duplicate this setting on the TV.


    I'll check it out, but not until tomorrow. I thought I could manage today, but I was surprised by unexpected duties :)

    Pablo1964 wrote:
    Be sure to check in the user manual whether the optical output does not require additional activation in the tv menu. I do not know this receiver, but it may turn out that the selection of external speakers and the type of signal fed to the output is not enough.


    I'll check that tomorrow as well :)

    anmedia wrote:
    A question for the author, does the lack of an audio signal apply to every signal coming from the TV (tuner, pendrive) via SPDIF?


    Yes everyone. There is no sound after the optical output, both when watching terrestrial TV and when watching movies from a pen drive.

Topic summary

The discussion revolves around the issue of connecting a Samsung UE40ES6100 TV to a Samsung HT-TZ215 home theater system using an optical (Toslink) cable. The user initially faced problems with no sound output from the home theater despite the optical connection being functional when tested with a computer. Various troubleshooting steps were suggested, including checking the SPDiF output settings, ensuring the correct audio format (PCM or Dolby Digital) was selected, and verifying that the optical output was activated in the TV's menu. Users speculated about potential hardware issues with the TV's optical socket and discussed the importance of using a high-quality, short optical cable. The user confirmed that sound worked through alternative connections, such as Euro to chinch, but remained curious about the optical output functionality. Ultimately, the user decided to contact Samsung for further assistance.
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