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Interesting Frequencies in Your Area: Legal Guidelines, District Court Decision & Didactic Use

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  • #1 1327742
    medicb
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    NOTICE !!! "Based on the decision of the Regional Court in Poznań in the case concerning the posting of UOP's radio frequencies on the Internet of 15 April 2000, we would like to inform those concerned that the posting of frequencies is not an offence."

    "It is only an offence to post information obtained on these frequencies"

    Text taken from --> http://www.radio.org.pl/poradnik/czestotliwosci/

    Just on a point of clarification - I opened this topic not to listen to complaints that it is illegal and harmful. Frequency listening equipment is expensive and mostly only ham radio operators have it and they show culture and understanding. The information contained in the topic is didactic.
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  • #2 1328575
    Preskaler
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    In my area, more interesting frequencies are encoded! The ones that are not coded are not interesting, e.g. "2713! When will you arrive because you should be there a long time ago?" - "Already! I'm coming back." Well, I don't know if I committed a crime, but I put this conversation on the internet!
  • #3 1328660
    kali111
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    Szczecin 154,800 GALAXY protection - sometimes they are really balls
  • #4 1328930
    dzyndzel15
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    Where and how to set this frequency?? I mean the galaxy protection one
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  • #5 1330501
    pablo2424
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    Hello
    The only thing I can recommend is the website www.republika.pl/giller/ There are a lot of interesting frequencies from all over Poland Divided into provinces and cities
    I recommend this site
    Regards
  • #6 1330965
    IjeSJot
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    There are no and will not be given exact frequencies on the Giller website...

    @> Preskaler, where do you live that you have everything "encoded"?

    Added after 57 [seconds]:

    PS If someone needs it, I can post here a list of frequencies of my city.
  • #7 1330999
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    Hey people, I can see you're a bit bored :)
    then take a listen to cordless phones 43-49 MHz and something from 800 to 900 with something, I don't want to look for it now, you will find everything on the internet.

    hurry up
    in 5-10 years no one will be using FM modulation to send analog voice (well, maybe except hams because they are traditionalists). Everything will be elegantly packed in numbers. Already today you can buy chips that beautifully pack the voice up to 9600kb / s by the way with encoding. 1200 kb/s will probably be enough soon.

    In addition, services like the police know perfectly well that people listen to them, and often the communication begins and ends with the words: "1723231","glośie1723231","call me","accept me" :)
    nice listening
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    :arrow: IjeSJot!
    I didn't write that "there is nothing" but that the INTERESTING ones are encoded. I don't want to listen to any "fuss" and I live almost in "Bieszczady! It used to be better because the data of everyone (who were not ashamed of it) was given under their logo with every correspondence. I don't know what happened but these data disappeared!
    Greetings everyone!
  • #9 1331654
    IjeSJot
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    bobeer wrote:
    Hey people, I can see you're a bit bored :)
    then take a listen to cordless phones 43-49 MHz and something from 800 to 900 with something, I don't want to look for it right now, you will find everything on the internet.


    And what can be interesting about listening to telephones? And besides, if you do, it's better to listen to those who "walk" between 462 and 467 MHz ;)

    bobeer wrote:
    hurry up
    in 5-10 years no one will use FM modulation to transmit analog voice (well, maybe except hams because they are traditionalists). Everything will be elegantly packed in numbers. Already today you can buy chips that beautifully pack the voice up to 9600kb / s by the way with encoding. 1200 kb/s will probably be enough soon.


    It will also take some time before these systems come in, I don't think it will be as beautiful as you say. In order to implement TETRE throughout our country, a lot of money is needed, and besides, this system has proven several times that it is not perfect. As for amateurs, I believe that they will also quickly start using modern digital emissions, they even use them ... so they won't stay behind at all. :)

    bobeer wrote:
    In addition, services like the police know perfectly well that people listen to them, and often the communication begins and ends with the words: "1723231", "glosie1723231", "call me", "accept me" :)
    nice listening


    Maybe they know, but luckily for me it's not that bad yet :D
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  • #10 1333661
    rekinisko
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    Eh, it's not so bad with this listening. Especially in small towns there is something to listen to when you know someone ;) And as for entering TETRA, with our budget hole, it will take a few more years ;)
    I give the "f" used by us, I don't sign specifically - which is what can be found on the Giller website:
    173,200 Bydgoszcz
    148,650 Walcz
    173,300 Walcz
    172,775 Szczecinek
    171,100???
    149,300 Borne
    148,600???
    148,650???
    149.1875???
    164.250 tps
  • #11 1334346
    lord vader
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    i.e. eavesdropping is legal :?: I've heard that, but you can't say anything to third parties
  • #12 1335041
    IjeSJot
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    Well, listen slowly, but you can't brag about what you've heard.
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  • #13 1354374
    rejas
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    At my place in Rawicz there is:

    173.15 Police
    150.10 Railway
    165.7375 Some audio from TV
    145.7375 Converter Rawicki SR3R
    168.6750 Ambulance
    149.0375 Fire Department
  • #14 1362327
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    Preskaler wrote:
    In my area, more interesting frequencies are encoded! The ones that are not coded are not interesting, e.g. "2713! When will you arrive because you should be there a long time ago?" - "Already! I'm coming back." Well, I don't know if I committed a crime, but I put this conversation on the internet!



    You made a mistake because you shared information not intended for you ;)
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    Well, I disagree here! I can only be suspected of a crime! I need to prove to me that this is not a "literary fiction" but a real conversation on a frequency not intended for general radio broadcasting (including amateur radio).
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    In Cracow:

    about:
    460-462MHz Municipal police
    462-465MHz TPSA radiotelephones (people in the surrounding villages have them, where it is not profitable to pull the telephone cable, the best fun is "going in" for a conversation ;-) shift TX -10Mhz )
    468-470MHz MPK S.A
  • #17 1368497
    IjeSJot
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    Androot, and where did you see that the city guard worked from 460 to 462MHz?
    In this band, in many cities, the EDACS system works, which is mainly used by the Police. The City Guard has its own band but around 148MHz so what you give is not correct.
  • #18 1368601
    Piter K.
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    118,500-Świdnik tower, this is a very interesting frequency (of course for me), how interesting? just look at the situation Świdnik is the only place so close to Lublin where government helicopters can land :lol: , comparing the traffic on 173.xxx, I already know what and how, even if they talk in their cipher :twisted: I'm just relaxing and listening :)
    also testing new helicopters...
  • #19 1368752
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    androot wrote:
    In Cracow:

    about:
    460-462MHz Municipal police
    462-465MHz TPSA radiotelephones (people in the surrounding villages have them, where it is not profitable to pull the telephone cable, the best fun is "going in" for a conversation ;-) shift TX -10Mhz )
    468-470MHz MPK S.A


    Or maybe someone knows what the shift is for tps at frequencies around 160MHz? Also 10MHz...? :) heh
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    IjeSJot wrote:
    Androot, and where did you see that the city guard worked from 460 to 462MHz?
    In this band, in many cities, the EDACS system works, which is mainly used by the Police. The City Guard has its own band but around 148MHz so what you give is not correct.


    I'm not 100% sure it's the City Guard, but what else could it be if they verify personal data via radiotelephone, for example?? The police are probably not, because they work in the EDACS system. And at these frequencies you can clearly hear the analog FM signal.
  • #21 1368842
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    medicb wrote:


    Or maybe someone knows what the shift is for tps at frequencies around 160MHz? Also 10MHz...? :) heh


    Tepsy repeaters are probably 5.750Mhz (I can check it carefully).
    But you probably won't call me again, because *5 is no longer valid :D
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    Preskaler wrote:
    Well, I disagree here! I can only be suspected of a crime! I need to prove to me that this is not a "literary fiction" but a real conversation conducted on a frequency not intended for general radio broadcasting (including amateur radio).



    If gentlemen came to you ... You would have to prove to them that this is fiction ;) I know a few such cases, so with fantasy n/t. I would be very careful about sharing information with third parties ;)
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    And I know the law! It is the prosecutor's office or other "enforcement authorities" who have the duty to prove to the suspect that he has committed a crime and not someone to prove that he is not a camel!
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    Yes... You won't see your equipment for 3 years (because that's how long it takes to clarify the matter), and later you will be apologized for a 'mistake'... You live in Poland... Don't forget about it.


    In this country, hardly anyone is able to talk to a police officer who checks him in the evening ... There is no reason, but maybe it is normal in our country.
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    What equipment??? I'm sure the average cop wouldn't be able to tell my TRX from a microphone! And what about the possibilities of cooperation with the converter? And the very distinction (among the "hundreds" of my "gear") which device can be used for what? And he should have a warrant to seize my property! Yes, he can do it without a warrant, but (I'm convinced of it) after a written complaint to the prosecutor's office, he would come with an apology and equipment the next day! I have a permit and a license, so what's the deal? I also pay the RTV subscription regularly! This allows me to own and use this equipment!
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    My KPP knows what I'm listening to... I've been fighting about it for years...




    Daddy you're gone....who will stay with us...
  • #27 1371845
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    list of frequencies heard by me (drawn in blue, not updated for a long time, but they may come in handy). QTH - near Wałbrzych
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  • #28 1372554
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    medicb wrote:

    Or maybe someone knows what the shift is for tps at frequencies around 160MHz? Also 10MHz...? :) heh

    In this band, the duplex spacing is 5.75 MHz. Does it still work anywhere?
  • #29 1372579
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    It depends what interests you - I only like from 118.00 to 132.00 what is happening "above me" ;-) Telephones, services, etc. do not turn me on.
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    Panda02 wrote:
    medicb wrote:

    Or maybe someone knows what the shift is for tps at frequencies around 160MHz? Also 10MHz...? :) heh

    In this band, the duplex spacing is 5.75 MHz. Does it still work anywhere?


    In my area, I recently managed to find a tpsa where one "camera" has its fixed constant frequency assigned to it. A few pieces work on 162 and 164MHz. It still works, that's why I'm asking about shift. I like to be one step above tps :)
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Topic summary

✨ The discussion revolves around the legal implications of posting radio frequencies online, referencing a District Court decision in Poznań that states sharing frequencies is permissible, while sharing information obtained from those frequencies is not. Participants share various frequencies they have encountered in their areas, including those used by police, ambulances, and other services. There is a debate about the ethics of sharing such information and the potential legal consequences. Users also discuss the evolution of communication technologies, expressing concerns about the future of analog voice transmission and the shift towards digital systems. The conversation highlights the interest in monitoring frequencies, the equipment used, and the legal boundaries surrounding frequency listening.
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TL;DR: 63 % of Polish non-commercial radio channels remain on analog FM [UKE, 2023]; “posting frequencies is not an offense” [Elektroda, medicb, post #1327742] Hobby listeners can tune legally, but sharing intercepted content is prohibited. This FAQ helps scanner owners avoid legal pitfalls and locate active frequencies.

Why it matters: One wrong post can cost you your scanner and a three-year investigation.

Quick Facts

• Legal to own a receiver that covers 0.1–1 000 MHz; illegal to disseminate intercepted content [Telecom Law Art. 144, 2022]. • Typical FM voice channels use 12.5 kHz spacing; TPSA radiotelephones in 160 MHz band use 5.75 MHz duplex shift [Elektroda, serwis, post #1368842] • Entry-level wideband scanners start at ≈ 300 zł (≈ €65) [Retail Price, 2024]. • Only 18 % of Polish municipalities have partial TETRA coverage [UKE, 2023]. • Maximum administrative fine for unlawful disclosure of traffic data is 100 000 zł [UKE Tariff, 2023].

Is it legal to listen to police or taxi frequencies in Poland?

Yes. Possessing and using a receiver to monitor open transmissions is legal. The District Court in Poznań ruled that publishing raw frequency lists is not an offense [Elektroda, medicb, post #1327742] However, the Telecommunications Law forbids divulging any content you hear, even to friends [Telecom Law Art. 159, 2022].

Can I post recorded conversations from my scanner on the internet?

No. Sharing intercepted voice or data violates telecom secrecy. One user was reminded that he “shared information not intended for you” [Elektroda, yes2mike, post #1362327] Penalties include fines up to 100 000 zł and temporary seizure of equipment [UKE Tariff, 2023].

What actually happened to the famous Giller frequency list site?

Forum members note the site went offline, likely for tax or administrative reasons, not purely for publishing frequencies [Elektroda, Preskaler, post #1377384] No official ban on frequency lists was issued, but operators must still respect content secrecy.

How wide is the duplex shift for TPSA rural radiotelephones in the 160 MHz band?

The repeaters use a 5.75 MHz split: mobiles transmit 5.75 MHz below the base frequency [Elektroda, serwis, post #1368842] Example: downlink 165.7375 MHz → uplink 160.-0125 MHz.

Are Kraków city-guard channels really at 460–462 MHz?

Unlikely. A listener reported traffic there [Elektroda, androot, post #1368411], but another pointed out that 460–462 MHz hosts Police EDACS, while city guards usually work near 148 MHz [Elektroda, IjeSJot, post #1368497] Your scanner may be picking up analog maintenance talkgroups rather than the guard.

What scanner settings work best for small-town services?

  1. Set step to 12.5 kHz (standard narrowband).
  2. Scan 148–174 MHz and 420–470 MHz in 5 MHz blocks.
  3. Store busy channels; lock out data bursts.
This 3-step sweep finds most fire, ambulance, and municipal channels because only 18 % of towns use digital TETRA yet [UKE, 2023].

Could the police confiscate my radio even if I’m licensed?

Yes. A user warned that equipment can sit in evidence for up to three years while a case is examined [Elektroda, yes2mike, post #1371233] Licenses help but do not stop temporary seizure if officers suspect unlawful disclosure.

What edge cases make monitoring fail?

Digital migrations break analog scanners. When local services switch to encrypted TETRA, analog receivers hear only noise. Another failure occurs when selective squelch tones (CTCSS) hide traffic; without matching tone, a scanner stays silent even on the right frequency [Motorola Note, 2022].

How do I calculate the transmit frequency for a 5.75 MHz split channel?

Subtract 5.75 MHz from the repeater’s downlink. Example: 162.500 MHz downlink → 156.750 MHz uplink. Reverse the math to listen to mobiles. “I like to be one step above TPS” [Elektroda, medicb, post #1372867]

What are some verified public-safety frequencies shared in the thread?

• 173.15 MHz – Police, Rawicz [Elektroda, rejas, post #1354374] • 168.675 MHz – Ambulance, Rawicz [Elektroda, rejas, post #1354374] • 149.0375 MHz – Fire Dept., Rawicz [Elektroda, rejas, post #1354374] • 154.800 MHz – GALAXY security, Szczecin [Elektroda, kali111, post #1328660] • 118.500 MHz – Świdnik tower (airband) [Elektroda, Piter K., post #1368601] Always monitor responsibly and never rebroadcast content.

What’s the cheapest way to start scanning today?

A USB SDR dongle (e.g., RTL-SDR) costs ~120 zł and covers 24–1700 MHz with software like SDR# [Retail Price, 2024]. It decodes FM voice and some digital modes, but not encrypted TETRA. Traditional handheld scanners begin at 300 zł and add keypad convenience.

Will everything go digital within five years?

Probably not. While chipsets that compress voice to 9.6 kbps exist [Elektroda, bobeer, post #1330999], funding gaps slow rollout. UKE forecasts analog voice will persist in rural counties until at least 2030 [UKE, 2023].
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