Disassembling Electronic Heat Allocators: Removing from Radiators & Reattaching for Reading

Hello, question to the experts on the subject

I have electronic heat allocators in my apartment, they are glued to the radiators with glue.
I have been saving more and more on heating for 4 years and every year the bills are higher.
I have an apartment on the 5th floor, it is the last floor in the building, additionally a corner apartment, due to savings, I only turn on the heating on frosty days and only two radiators, the other 3 are not turned on.

and this is my question, can I peel off these allocators from the radiators, the seals are on the housing, so they will probably not be damaged, and then stick them on the reading, nothing will happen to them.

I know it's a scam, but I don't have enough energy for the bills and it's even more impossible to save, and as you know, you can read allocators online and their settlement does not work properly, and the cooperative does not want to agree to billing the heating according to the area of the apartment.

Allocators are made by MINOL MINOMETR M6
I have studied the entire network and electrode and there is no similar topic.

Thank you in advance

There is no similar because it is against the law, and no one will give such advice here.
Even where you have radiators turned off, the apartment is heated through the walls from the neighbor.
Do you think that counting the heating per meter, it would be cheaper for you than now that you don't heat almost anything?
The allocator does not calculate, but divides the indication of the main heat meter into individual apartments.
If you dismantle the allocators, you will not deceive the cooperative or even the supplier, but your neighbors because a greater amount of heat will be divided by a smaller number of units from the allocators, which will increase the price of the unit.
This will raise heating bills for everyone.

You are right in what you write, Heating from the subway would be cheaper at my prices, and in addition I could heat to have the temperature in the apartment at 24-25 degrees, not 18 degrees as now, when saving.

I understand that this is against the law, I wrote it myself in my first post.
But taking it to the peasant mind, why does someone else, for example in the same building, not save heating and have heat and will pay the same as me, because the costs from the main allocator in the building will be broken down to all apartments anyway. That's what I think but I could be wrong.

Anyway, thank you for speaking out.

lukasz13ns wrote:

Heating from the subway would be cheaper at my prices

Yes? How do you know that if the cooperative does not settle the area of the apartment?

lukasz13ns wrote:

does not save heating and has heat and will pay the same as me, because the costs from the main allocator in the building will be broken down to all apartments anyway

First - they will not be divided evenly.
Secondly - depending on the method of calculation, the one who does not save will pay too little or too much in relation to consumption. He may also accidentally pay exactly as much as he should :D

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lukasz13ns wrote:

and this is my question if I can peel off these allocators from the radiators - the seals are on the housing

99.99% sure you won't peel it off without damaging it, but you can try.

How do I know? Because before they installed the allocators, it was much cheaper. In the neighboring housing estate, they are billed for the subway and it is also much cheaper, of course, in a different community.

But I think I'll give it a rest, grit my teeth and pay, because it may cost me more to damage this crap.

lukasz13ns wrote:

How do I know because before they set up allocators it was much cheaper,

Before they installed the allocators, there were other costs of thermal energy, which are getting more expensive every year. Winter is not equal to winter. Much cheaper is how much %? Another community may be cheaper because they have a better insulated block.
If in your community majority lost instead of gaining, you can vote to return to subway settlement

Settlement with the subway is better for those who have extreme apartments and those who do not save.
The introduction of billing per m2 causes the building's heat consumption to increase - then people regulate the temperature by opening the window :(

See on your bill what percentage of heat falls on your apartment from all the heat supplied to the building - maybe something is wrong.

Often extreme apartments are cheaper just because of the higher costs of its operation ....

wnoto wrote:

people then regulate the temperature by opening the window

I have already written in another topic - a 4-story house, a pre-war "tenement house" in a row with others. Windows to the north and south, insulated with polystyrene (10 cm) only on the north side a few years ago. We pay per m?. We all ventilate the apartments, some more than others less but there are no idiots regulating the temperature by opening the window
The result - PLN 2.32/m? per month (PLN 30,460 for the entire building and the entire season) last year.

lukasz13ns wrote:

I have been saving more and more on heating for 4 years and every year the bills are higher.

Write, as the previous speaker said, how much you get out of zlotys/m2, then you can approximately assess whether you are overpaying.

Hello

I have a top flat, I also have heat allocators - half of the costs are settled from the meter and the other half from the allocators. As for the cost of allocators, a simple comparison of two indicators: 1. indication of the allocator in my apartment in relation to all units in the block and 2. the area of my apartment by the total heated area in the block. I get 2.5x more than the "statistical" meter in the block. Throughout the heating period, I had a temp. max. 21'C and sat most of the day in a fleece. I understand that I have peak - although this is also theoretically taken into account by the conversion factor (respectively smaller), but 2.5 times is a slight exaggeration.