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Dell Inspiron M5030 Not Powering On - Voltage Readings for PL4301, PU4301, PU4502, PU4601

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  • #1 14054533
    molanos
    Level 12  
    Hello.

    I am writing a new topic because the ones that are already on the electrode did not wake up the album.
    The intel board
    No reaction on the ON button, nothing shines nothing works.


    PL4301 gland is approx

    PU4301:
    S - 19.6 V
    S - 19.6 V
    S - 19.6 V
    G - 3.2 V
    D - 19.6V
    D - 19.6V
    D - 19.6V
    D - 19.6V

    PU4502:
    S - 19.6 V
    S - 19.6 V
    S - 19.6 V
    G - 1.7 V
    D - 19.6 V
    D - 19.6 V
    D - 19.6 V
    D - 19.6 V

    PU4601 - it does not get power.
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  • #2 14054679
    marci4
    Level 31  
    Enter the motherboard symbol. Do you have ALW5 and ALW3 voltages after connecting the power supply?
  • #3 14054742
    molanos
    Level 12  
    Plate:
    CN-091400 DELL INSPIRON N5030

      Dell Inspiron M5030 Not Powering On - Voltage Readings for PL4301, PU4301, PU4502, PU4601

    ALW - ??? I can not locate on PCB. Please brighter ...


    Is it about U4201 and U4202?
  • #4 14054817
    boro1234567
    IT specialist
    molanos wrote:
    P
    ALW - ??? I can not locate on PCB. Please brighter ...
     

    With PL4602, PL4601 voltage supply.
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  • #5 14054897
    molanos
    Level 12  
    boro1234567 wrote:
    molanos wrote:
    P
    ALW - ??? I can not locate on PCB. Please brighter ...
     

    With PL4602, PL4601 voltage supply.


    I do not have PL4602 and PL4601 on the record .... it's about converters?
    I have a PU4601 which gives 19.6 V and PU4602 which does not indicate anything on the meter ...
  • #6 14054921
    boro1234567
    IT specialist
    molanos wrote:

    I do not have PL4602 and PL4601 on the record .... it's about converters?
     

    These are the main converter coils.
    Upload disc images in higher resolution on both sides.
  • #7 14054971
    molanos
    Level 12  
    boro1234567 wrote:
    molanos wrote:

    I do not have PL4602 and PL4601 on the record .... it's about converters?
     

    These are the main converter coils.
    Upload photos in higher resolution on both sides.
    Dell Inspiron M5030 Not Powering On - Voltage Readings for PL4301, PU4301, PU4502, PU4601 Dell Inspiron M5030 Not Powering On - Voltage Readings for PL4301, PU4301, PU4502, PU4601


    I already found it.
    PL4602 and PL4601 - No power supply
  • #8 14054987
    boro1234567
    IT specialist
    Sorry but the quality of the photos does not allow you to identify components.
    Remove the coil images of the coils around the inverter coils.
  • #9 14055001
    molanos
    Level 12  
    boro1234567 wrote:
    Sorry but the quality of the photos does not allow you to identify components.
    Upload coils around the converter coils.
    Dell Inspiron M5030 Not Powering On - Voltage Readings for PL4301, PU4301, PU4502, PU4601 < br /> Dell Inspiron M5030 Not Powering On - Voltage Readings for PL4301, PU4301, PU4502, PU4601 Dell Inspiron M5030 Not Powering On - Voltage Readings for PL4301, PU4301, PU4502, PU4601


    I already found it.
    PL4602 and PL4601 - No power supply
  • #10 14055036
    boro1234567
    IT specialist
    Is the battery charging?
  • #11 14055048
    molanos
    Level 12  
    No Loading ....
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  • #12 14055084
    boro1234567
    IT specialist
    We're flying from the beginning.
    How did the fault occur?
    Are you 100% reliable in the power supply?
    Does the battery behave the same way?
  • #13 14055117
    molanos
    Level 12  
    boro1234567 wrote:
    We're flying from the beginning.
    How did the fault occur?
    Are you 100% reliable in the power supply?
    Does the battery behave the same way?


    After finishing work and switching off, the laptop has not started again.
    On the battery exactly the same symptoms. The battery currently has 11.72v

    power supply:
    Mass
    19,6v
    ID pin middle 0V

    I also checked on the HP power supply without changes ...
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  • #14 14055135
    marci4
    Level 31  
    Measure the resistance between each coil and ground with an ohmmeter. Search for short circuits.
    Apply the voltage from leg 16 to PU4603.

    Do you use the diagram when looking for a problem?
  • #15 14055137
    boro1234567
    IT specialist
    molanos wrote:

    I also checked on the HP power supply without any changes ...

    The HP power supply is not suitable for this board, it can cause damage.
    CMOS reset made?
    Connect the board with the battery and give the measurement results from PU4503, pin 16,17,8, PU4603, pin 8, bones, bios.
  • #16 14055288
    lisek
    Service technician RTV
    After all, on this photo. from Oct 19, 2014 14:57 you have the left side (in the white border) like "ox on the plot written"
    Quote:
    48.4EM24.011
    * and something else ....

    that is DJ2 MV MB platform
    - North GM45
    - KBC NPCE781BA0DX

    close
    Quote:
    WISTRON DJ2 Montevina UMA
    (91.4EM01.001, 48.4EM25.0SA, 10240-SA (X00), 2010-06-02)


      Dell Inspiron M5030 Not Powering On - Voltage Readings for PL4301, PU4301, PU4502, PU4601

    In the annex you have SM for this platform.
  • #17 14055295
    molanos
    Level 12  
    boro1234567 wrote:
    molanos wrote:

    I also checked on the HP power supply without changes ...

    The HP power supply is not suitable for this board, it can cause damage.
    CMOS reset made?
    Connect the board with the battery and give the measurement results from PU4503, pin 16,17,8 PU4603, pin 8 bios bone.


    Reset CMOS - done
    Bios pin 8 on the bat has 0.09
    power supply + bat has 3.31

    PU4503 on the bat has

    D-11.74v
    D-11.74v
    D-11.74v
    D-11.74v
    S-11.74v
    S-11.74v
    S-11.74v
    G-0v

    PU4603 can not locate on PCB where is it?
    pin 16,17,8 I do not understand.
  • #18 14055349
    boro1234567
    IT specialist
    molanos wrote:

    PU4603 can not locate on PCB where is it?
    pin 16,17,8 I do not understand .

    I have clearly written out the outputs with such numbers of the PU4603 inverter controller.
    The layout looks like on a photo.
  • #20 14055601
    molanos
    Level 12  
    lisek wrote:
    After all, a "similar topic" was practiced on Link_ forum from 2013.

    Przistarz wrote clearly in the first post " I am writing a new topic because those that are already on the electrode did not wake up the disc."

    I have read this topic too.
  • #21 14055613
    boro1234567
    IT specialist
    What about measurements?
  • #22 14055643
    molanos
    Level 12  
    boro1234567 wrote:
    What about the measurements?

    I'm already looking for PU4603 ... I was not there for a moment ... I have found on pcb ...

    PU4603

    On the power supply:

    pin 17 - 4.97v
    pin 16 - 19.58v
    pin 8 - 3.31v

    On Battery:

    pin 17 - 4.97v
    pin 16 - 12,122v
    pin 8 - 3.44v

    I will add that this element heats up very well after a few seconds. He's in his fingers!
    I guess it should not be so ...
  • #23 14055966
    lisek
    Service technician RTV
    It's about the tension on this system
    pin.8 LDO or nap.3.3V (it powers min KBC)
    pin.16 and the rest as was written in previous posts

      Dell Inspiron M5030 Not Powering On - Voltage Readings for PL4301, PU4301, PU4502, PU4601

    If you do not have voltage on pin.8, then it's fault> charger or NCB (not counting "compact" ceramic capacitors, R in TPS51xxx environment
    Then measure to mass: VREG5 (17pin) and VREG3 (8pin)
  • #24 14055982
    boro1234567
    IT specialist
    molanos wrote:

    I will add that this element gets very hot after a few seconds. He's in his fingers! [/ U] I guess it should not be like that ...

    You need to determine the cause of the system's heating.
    Resistance from pin 8 of the controller and coils PL4602 and PL4601.
    Do you have a service power supply?
  • #25 14056697
    molanos
    Level 12  
    I do not have a service power supply yet, but I was thinking about buying it yesterday. Can you recommend something ??? Made in China enough or something else some model?

    I drove to the furnace and I probably damaged the PU4603. As I checked again the voltage on it, my paws twitched and I closed the terminal pin 17 with pin 16 :(
    And now I have on pin 17 - 0.21v the rest of the tide is unchanged.
    I'm looking for lumber or I do not have somewhere 51125 And because he's sitting there.

    I found on another record as 51125 but without "A"
    Can I boldly solder it?
    Or does the letter "A" have any meaning?


    The system replaced by an efficient 51125.

    Pin 17- 4.93v
    Pin 16 - 19.57v
    Pin 8 - 3,27v

    The system does not heat up, but the board does not start ...
  • #26 14058182
    lisek
    Service technician RTV
    You can exchange.
    Look at
    Link_ TPS51125A
    Link_ TPS51125
      (' :!: ')
    The difference (in the value of electrolytic capacitors on the pin ...) is described on the 1st page. datasheet TPS51125A
    As you have on pins ... ok.
    Quote:
    ENTRIP1-1.44V
    ENTRIP2-1.55V


    This should appear nap. output for controlling and opening keys (both channels should work)
  • #27 14058210
    boro1234567
    IT specialist
    I asked for some measurements, I do not see the results.
  • #28 14058570
    molanos
    Level 12  
    boro1234567 wrote:
    I asked for some measurements I do not see the results.


    Meter set to 200K oops

    PL4601 - 10.5
    PL4602 - 01.5

    Meter set to 2M

    PIN8 - 591
  • #29 14058606
    boro1234567
    IT specialist
    molanos wrote:

    PL4601 - 10.5
    PL4602 - 01.5

    Do not give these results to you?
    Keys checked?
  • #30 14059715
    molanos
    Level 12  
    lisek wrote:
    You can swap.
    Look at
    Link_ TPS51125A
    Link_ TPS51125
      (' :!: ')
    The difference (in the value of electrolytic capacitors on the pin ...) is described on the 1st page. datasheet TPS51125A
    As you have on pins ... ok.
    Quote:
    ENTRIP1-1.44V
    ENTRIP2-1.55V


    This should appear nap. output for controlling and unlocking keys (both channels should work)


    ENTRIP1-0V
    ENTRIP2-0V
    There are no tensions ....

    I have now checked the short circuit to the mass of the coils.

    I have a short on:

    PL4901
    PL4702
    PL4701


    So damage to the inverter or powered system like that?
    I am asking for a hint because I already have a confusion in my head and I'm not too good at repairing power failures ... that's why I am asking for help in order to improve my skills ...

Topic summary

The discussion revolves around a Dell Inspiron M5030 that is not powering on, with users analyzing voltage readings from various components including PL4301, PU4301, PU4502, and PU4601. The motherboard model CN-091400 is identified, and users inquire about the ALW voltages and the presence of power at specific points. The absence of voltage on PL4602 and PL4601 is noted, leading to suggestions for further measurements and checks for short circuits. The conversation also touches on the importance of using a proper service power supply and the potential damage caused by using an incorrect one. Users share their findings regarding voltage levels and resistance measurements, indicating issues with components like PU4603 and PL4901. The need for a clearer understanding of the circuit and component testing is emphasized, particularly regarding the identification and testing of transistors.
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