Connecting a new Cyfral Smart-5P intercom in place of the old one

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Hello, as in the topic, I have a problem with connecting the new Cyfral Smart-5p handset in place of the old one. I attach a photo of the old connected one that worked and the new handset, please help with the diagram. greetings [/ img] .................................................. ...........

artur s · Answer

It should be written something more about the old handset, or draw a diagram. Unless you count on the help of an expert

spinacz · Answer

Just what is. Green -> RING White -> Mass Red -> SPK Blue -> MIC ZW1 removed ZW2 founded ZW3 founded

grab0s · Answer

After connecting in such a scheme, the call button from the outside works, but after entering the blue one on the MIC, the bolt at the door is still working and you cannot hear the conversation.

spinacz · Answer

Ok so it will be like this:
Green -> RING
White -> Mass
Red -> SPK
Blue -> SW1
You connect one capacitor contact to the MIC (the cylinder in the old uniphone) and the other to SW1
You connect an additional cable with GROUND to SW2
ZW1 removed
ZW2 removed
ZW3 removed

Was the old uniphone working properly?

grab0s · Answer

Unfortunately, I do not know because I have not checked and I do not have it anymore, and what capacitor to use because I did not read from the old one?

spinacz · Answer

The photo is not very legible so I am not sure either, you have to combine try 2.2 u or 10 u at 50V.

artur s · Answer

Or maybe it is enough to install the ZW2 and ZW3 jumpers in this configuration?

spinacz · Answer

In my opinion, it does not make sense because the standard 4-wire installation does not need an additional capacitor in the uniphone. The bolt is opened by direct shorting the microphone line to ground. At the author of the topic there is some strange installation where an additional capacitor was used, I have not encountered such an installation myself.

grab0s · Answer

I connected without a capacitor and there is a call and the bolt button works, I can also hear, but very poorly, to the interlocutor from the outside, but he cannot hear me, I also tried to put the ZW2 jumper on and then the bolt worked all the time. When it comes to connecting the capacitor, is the polarity important in this case?

spinacz · Answer

This does matter, unless you buy a bipolar electrolyte. Nobody at the bottom can hear you because you do not have a microphone connected, and as for the audibility from the bottom up, it is only possible to increase it on the central electronics.

artur s · Answer

From the photo it looks like the previous one had a + in blue

grab0s · Answer

I used a 4.7uF 50V capacitor and connected in different polarity, then the bolt opening button did not work

spinacz · Answer

Insert a photo of how you connect it, because something does not suit me here. Can you hear you downstairs?

grab0s · Answer

Except that I had to extend the cable and the colors are different Heaven -> Heaven -> MIC Red -> Bronze -> SPK Green -> Gray - RING White - white -> ground

spinacz · Answer

You connect incorrectly, read my second post where I wrote how to connect.

artur s · Answer

This, in the photo, is a bit different. Connect the same and check.

grab0s · Answer

after correcting now, the interlocutor can hear very poorly both ways, maybe the value of the capacitor or its polarity can change?

spinacz · Answer

You can try, however, I do not know if it will do anything, so that you can hear what someone says downstairs you have a potentiometer on the disc that clearly describes the sensitivity of the microphone. As for the volume from the bottom up, you can do nothing yourself, only administration.

grab0s · Answer

I tried to manipulate the potentiometer, but it did not work, I was at my neighbor's and it works ok, I also took a photo of its connection

spinacz · Answer

From this you could think that you had a wrong uniphone connection from the beginning. Try this Green -> GROUND Blue -> MIC Orange -> SPK White -> RING ZW1 removed ZW2 founded ZW3 founded

artur s · Answer

And how long was the handset removed? And did you have the wires insulated before assembly? Perhaps the intercom service disconnected something due to short circuits.

grab0s · Answer

I connected as follows:

Heaven -> Heaven -> MIC
Red -> Bronze -> SPK
Green -> Gray - ground
White - white -> ring

Now you can hear the call inside, I can hear the interlocutor well from the outside, but I feel weak outside and when you try to press the opening button, the receiver starts to squeak and the bolt does not work. After hanging up the handset and pressing the button, the bolt works.

spinacz · Answer

My friend, there are no standards in your installation, try to swap white and orange and see what happens. If it doesn't help, call someone from the administration who deals with it and connect it as needed.

grab0s · Answer

I changed and nothing, but I looked into the box where all the wires are and it looks like this: blue to all blue, white to all white, orange to orange and green individually goes to the cassette

spinacz · Answer

Well, the only thing that is certain is that the green one should be connected to the RING, and the rest of the three should be combined. When you have good audibility up down down take the bolt.
Try this again:
Green -> RING
blue -> Ground
Red -> SPK
white -> SW1
You connect one capacitor contact to the MIC (the cylinder in the old uniphone) and the other to SW1
You connect an additional cable with GROUND to SW2
ZW1 removed
ZW2 removed
ZW3 removed

grab0s · Answer

In this configuration, as shown in the picture, the call works, you can hear it both ways, but I do not know why the bolt button works only when the receiver is hung up?

spinacz · Answer

Buddy, too many contradictory things, see how you described the connection on the staircase and how it is at the neighbor's. It does not match that the neighbor's green one is connected to ground and on the vertical it looks like a generator. Go to the administration and they will connect you, without knowing which, as I can see, you won't do anything, and someone who knows how it works will be able to do it in 5 minutes.

zybex · Answer

This is probably out of date, but I would like to add from myself that the capacitor that was added to the old uniphone is not installed, because the new uniphone has it already built in. You just need to put on the jumper as for opening the handset (loudspeaker) line.

Ircys · Answer

The Smart 5p uniphone does not fit into a system with a 2-wire installation. greetings

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