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How to divide the internet in an apartment into multiple sockets

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  • #1 14894810
    Dycu
    Level 8  
    Hello,

    I have the following problem in an apartment I bought two years ago. I have internet sockets in three rooms, but I only have internet from the provider in one. Originally, the internet was in the living room, but when we were signing the contract, we wanted it in a different room, so the installer changed it for us. In the third socket, from what I understand, all these cables connect, there is a cube and after a suitable switch, you can play the internet on one of the other two rooms, or simply unplug the cube and have a third in it.

    My question now is as follows. I would like to have internet in the room and in the living room with sockets at the same time. How to do it? The only thing that comes to mind is to connect a switch / router to the socket in which this cube is and then connect back to this cube by exiting this switch. But it would be a terrible solution, because I would have to just take the entire socket off and do it. Are there any input / output sockets to do this? Any other ideas?

    Thanks in advance for any help
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  • #2 14894854
    stachu_22
    Level 17  
    Since you have 3 internet sockets, one in each room, there must be a place somewhere where cables from each of these sockets go and they should be connected with a switch there. A cable that "leaves the apartment" with the Internet should also be connected to this switch :) Then the internet will appear on each of these sockets.

    You can also buy a WIFI router and plug it into a socket where you currently have internet. I think that you can fit in PLN 100 ;)
  • #3 14894880
    Dycu
    Level 8  
    It just seems to me that the problem with me is that there is no switch there. Just in one of these sockets, all these cables meet. One that goes outside and two cables to the other rooms. And there is a connector that you can simply connect any of these cables to the Internet.

    And now there is a problem, because if I would like to separate it, I have to put a switch there. And such a switch will not fit into this socket :) . And I would have to somehow go outside this socket with these cables and then come back inside with these cables. And here I have no idea how to do it sensibly / aesthetically, so as not to make a mess.
  • #4 14894881
    Samuraj
    Level 35  
    Dycu wrote:
    Just in one of these sockets, all these cables meet. One that goes to the outside and two cables to the other rooms.

    This is where put a switch or router depending on what is needed.
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  • #5 14894889
    Dycu
    Level 8  
    Yes, I understand it. But all these cables, along with what brings the internet from outside, are locked in this socket. And now I would have to go out with this cable with the Internet from the socket to the room, connect to the switch and all this contraption will lie under an open socket from which three cables will come out :) . Is there any possibility to assemble it sensibly?
  • #6 14894890
    stachu_22
    Level 17  
    Dycu wrote:
    I just think ..


    Then unscrew the socket housing and everything will be clear :)

    so it would turn out that you have 4 wires in one socket:
    1. Internet from the outside
    2. 1 room socket
    3. 2 room socket
    4 And the socket from the room where all the cables meet

    As I said, start it up and check, it's best to give a photo. You can always just extend the cables and lead them outside
  • #7 14894896
    Dycu
    Level 8  
    It is exactly as you say. I'll take pictures when I'm home.

    And I would have to do exactly as you say. Lead these cables outside, but are there any sockets for 3 cables at once, e.g.? I would not like to be left with a hole in the wall or some other DIY :) .
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    #8 14894909
    Samuraj
    Level 35  
    The cables can always be extended, the switch on the wall above the socket and the box closed with a lid, leading only the wires, making 3 holes in the lid.
    The box can also be covered by hanging a switch in this place and the cables should be placed underneath.
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  • #9 14894924
    Dycu
    Level 8  
    Ok, this already gives me a picture of how this can be solved. Thanks a lot!

    And to connect this, I need a switch or a router? Any specific? What should I pay attention to?
  • #10 14894933
    jprzedworski
    Network and Internet specialist
    Dycu wrote:
    switch or router?
    Exactly. We don't know the details. To this "internet" you connect directly to the computer, or is there anything else on the way. If directly, my grandmother also saw for two. It depends on whether the provider has provided one or more IP addresses for you. If several, a switch is enough. If one, you will have to give a router that will create a new network, because only one computer will work on the switch, and that's not the point.
  • #11 14894950
    Dycu
    Level 8  
    At the moment, in the other room, I have a router in the output and two computers connected to it. I assume that I have only one ip address provided.

    In that case, where I have internet in the socket, I would like to divide it into two rooms, so I understand that I have to put the router there. And then in one of these rooms I would like to split up into two computers again. Do I also need another router there or is a switch enough if it is already my network?
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    #12 14894958
    jprzedworski
    Network and Internet specialist
    Dycu wrote:
    At the moment, in the other room, I have a router on the exit
    This router is somehow called? Please provide all the details on the forum, because the answer depends on the details!
    Maybe this internet is via ADSL? How many pins do these sockets have?
  • #13 14894968
    Dycu
    Level 8  
    Ok rightly so. I will give you all the details as soon as I get home, I wanted to find out a little about the topic and have already found out a lot :) .
  • #14 14894975
    jprzedworski
    Network and Internet specialist
    Dycu wrote:
    I've already learned a lot
    Maybe yes maybe no. If it is ADSL, then it cannot be divided with the switch on existing cables, because it is probably telephone cables. We are waiting for details.
  • #15 14895117
    Samuraj
    Level 35  
    The main question that should be asked at the very beginning of the discussion. What cables are in the walls between this branch and the target places where the internet is supposed to be.
  • #16 14896417
    Dycu
    Level 8  
    Good question, unfortunately I have no idea. I took some photos, can you infer anything from them?

    How to divide the internet in an apartment into multiple sockets How to divide the internet in an apartment into multiple sockets How to divide the internet in an apartment into multiple sockets

    For some reason, there are three free cables inside. The Internet with the cable that goes to the room is connected with the connector as shown in the photo.
  • #17 14896487
    jprzedworski
    Network and Internet specialist
    Dycu wrote:
    with the connector as shown in the photo.
    The problem is that you can not see anything and the monitor is very good. It is impossible to photograph better?
    I also asked for the model of this router.
  • #18 14896498
    Ricoh_220

    Level 38  
    I think you have a problem under the title, first put the plugs in, plug the cables into the router. And you will see.

    more reliable version call the cables and describe which one goes, then put the plugs on the switch, then replace the switch with a router and write to us that it flashes.
    greetings
  • #19 14896532
    keychi
    Level 18  
    Dycu - get rid of cables and create a simple wifi network based on the mother router and access points (or a repeater in the simple language of amplifiers / intermediaries) from which you briefly connect the cables to devices that do not have wifi.

    An example solution is in the attachment
    How to divide the internet in an apartment into multiple sockets
  • #20 14896544
    hermes-80
    Level 43  
    What you proposed is the worst that it can do, and that's on the repeaters, with the cable in the wall. Buy yourself a cabinet, hang over the socket, extend the cables, put the router in a tin and everything will be fine.
  • #21 14896562
    Dycu
    Level 8  
    Hmmm, at the moment I can see that solving this problem with these cables will be terribly problematic.

    First, I would have to get out of the internet from this socket and connect it to the router and connect two cables going to the rooms. The problem is, these cables are very short, they barely come out of this box.

    I wanted to use this existing installation, but the cable is the fastest.

    @ hermes-80 the socket is unfortunately at the height of the bed, no cabinet is available there :) . is there any way to extend these cables without using those big RJ45 extensions? or some sockets with 3 outputs, but the size of the single ones?

    @jprzedworski router D-Link Dl-524
  • #22 14896590
    hermes-80
    Level 43  
    Soldering iron - and you solder without untangling more than 1 cm of the strand, not forgetting to insulate each solder.

    As for cables and cabinets - what is the problem with extending the cables, chaff some walls and install everything where it will be aesthetically?
    Since this socket is the convergence point of all the cables.
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    #24 14896620
    hermes-80
    Level 43  
    As a last resort, there may be this connector.
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    #25 14896645
    jprzedworski
    Network and Internet specialist
    Dycu wrote:
    @jprzedworski router D-Link Dl-524
    Luckily, it's not an ADSL router. But you have a problem with these cables. Still not sure if it's an Ethernet twisted pair as the pictures are very blurry. Soldering in this hole - good health.
    I would break it down and make separate sockets for each cable so that there is enough, then plaster ... but it's almost a renovation.
    Last minute news: As for the socket, I found something like this:
    http://www.morele.net/molex-pn-g Gniazdoo-podtynkowe-4xrj45-proste-568b-ftp-powercat-5e-biale-144218/
  • #26 14896669
    Dycu
    Level 8  
    Ok I think it's an ethernet twist. If so, what's my situation?

    I will definitely not solder, it is beyond my capabilities. There will also be a problem with this opening, there is a whole series of sockets, right next to the radio / TV and network ones, so everything would have to be redone and, as you said, we have a renovation :) .

    These connectors, which I threw earlier, will probably not work, because each cable has to be put on, if I do it on two cables, it will not get inside everything.

    The only thing that makes sense to me is to look for something like you uploaded (e.g. http://www.ceto.com.pl/shop/product/849/garówkae-dat-modul-kat-6-3xrj45-upk-btr ). But I don't know if I can find something like that in the size I have there. Then inside I would connect these three cables, put a router somewhere outside and it should not work?
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    #27 14896715
    jprzedworski
    Network and Internet specialist
    Dycu wrote:
    But I don't know if I can find something like that in the size I have there.
    These x4 and x3 sockets are probably standard sizes - they should fit into a regular box. The one from Morele.net looks a bit shallower. They have a pickup point in Wrocław.
  • #28 14896799
    Dycu
    Level 8  
    I am browsing these sockets and I have one more question. For example, in such http://taniaelektryka.pl/legrand-celiane/1850...e-gyszneo-multimeidalne-3xrj45-stp-kat-6.html, which means that it is used for the simultaneous transmission of TV, telephone and IT signals? Does it default to 3 outputs as I need?

    And one more question. If there were some specific cables in the wall, would it be possible without a switch / router outside? Do I have to get out of the box with these cables anyway and then come back? :)
  • #29 14897129
    jprzedworski
    Network and Internet specialist
    Dycu wrote:
    which means that it is used for simultaneous transmission of TV, telephone and IT signals? Does this default to 3 outputs as I need?
    It seems that is right. If you have a twisted pair network, you can connect various things.
    It is impossible without a router and a switch, but a router usually has several LAN ports, i.e. a four-port switch already built-in. Enough.
  • #30 14898214
    keychi
    Level 18  
    If repeaters are not an aesthetic solution, then why were they created - they work great in home networks. The only limit is Mb / s on wi-fi. Not to mention that the so-called "internet in galleries" are based on this and all users who want to take advantage do not complain.

    And the risk of damaging "all" appliances in the house is small. Because it will not go on lan cables, because there will be none. But it's a matter of choice. I have no power plant at home, and the cables are discreetly hidden. And most importantly, no holes in the walls.

Topic summary

The discussion revolves around the challenge of distributing internet access through multiple sockets in an apartment. The user has three internet sockets but only one is currently active. The proposed solutions include installing a switch or router at the convergence point of the cables to enable internet access in multiple rooms simultaneously. Suggestions include using a router to create a new network if only one IP address is provided by the internet service provider. The conversation also touches on the feasibility of extending short cables and the potential use of specialized sockets for multiple connections. Concerns about aesthetics and the complexity of installation are addressed, with recommendations for maintaining a tidy setup.
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