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Squeaking Radiator Valves: Differential Pressure Regulator Installation in Open Systems

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  • #1 15060767
    Anonymous
    Anonymous  
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  • #2 15060825
    bartek1609
    Level 11  
    The so-called bypasses per pump, you can also use Wilo pumps with variable power, i.e. the more thermostatic valves are closed, the power gradually decreases.
    I would advise opening one of the radiators without a thermostatic head (a small radiator, e.g. a bathroom radiator, because it is always too cold there). The central heating circulation pump must have a small circulation.
    I also guess that you have 2 separate pumps - for CO and DHW ...
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  • #3 15060876
    Anonymous
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  • #4 15060888
    BILGO
    Level 38  
    Pumps with variable characteristics are used for thermostatic heads.
  • #6 15060966
    bartek1609
    Level 11  
    If you have gears with it, reduce it to 1 and see if the radiators are heating all the way to the bottom. The permissible difference between the top and the bottom of the radiator is 10°C. If the difference is greater then 2nd gear.
    It's all about having the pump run at the lowest speed possible, then the squeaking will be minimized.
    I would advise you to remove the head on one radiator and unscrew it to the max or replace the pump with variable characteristics ...

    Added after 4 [minutes]:

    1. Right now, this pump is probably with variable characteristics. So you should have some kind of potentiometer so turn it up a bit.
    2. Take a test. turn off the valve after or before the pump and watch these 3 diodes. As the power decreases on the LED indicator, the pump is with variable characteristics, do the tip from point 1.
  • #7 15061031
    Anonymous
    Anonymous  
  • #8 15061121
    bartek1609
    Level 11  
    And if 1 radiator is turned on to the max, it also squeaks / squeaks others?
  • #9 15061144
    Anonymous
    Anonymous  
  • #10 15061177
    bartek1609
    Level 11  
    What brand are the thermostats?
    Orifices on the valve under the head are set to max? Maximum number or N - neutral...
  • #11 15061179
    TvWidget
    Level 38  
    I have the same problem with these valves. If they're not fully open, sooner or later they wake up and start tapping.
  • #12 15061218
    bartek1609
    Level 11  
    Apparently that's the valves. Closing up and having a small gap, they start to vibrate with a high frequency (they have play) or hum (like an ordinary faucet). It all depends on the construction.
    Maybe the problem would be solved by a new pump with electronics, but whether it makes sense to invest is your business.
  • #13 15061242
    TvWidget
    Level 38  
    In my case, the valves close and open at a low frequency of about 2 Hz.
  • #15 15061372
    Anonymous
    Anonymous  
  • #16 15061385
    BILGO
    Level 38  
    Check that the head is touching the gland stem.
    Maybe the pre-adjustment knob needs to be set / unscrewed (too much play)?
  • #17 15061391
    Anonymous
    Anonymous  
  • #18 15062503
    BILGO
    Level 38  
    There seems to be some leeway in them ;) Possibly a worn spring. It just has to be something else for all the valves that work like this...
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  • #19 15062643
    Anonymous
    Anonymous  
  • #20 15062689
    BILGO
    Level 38  
    In general, for me, the use of thermostats is nonsense ... I prefer, for example, to maintain a lower temperature in the central heating system ;)
  • #21 15063769
    bartek1609
    Level 11  
    Of course, with a grain of salt :)
    the room controller is also good, it gives big savings at night..
    And are the squeaking of thermostats so annoying?
  • #22 15063901
    Zbigniew Rusek
    Level 38  
    BILGO wrote:
    In general, for me, the use of thermostats is nonsense ... I prefer, for example, to maintain a lower temperature in the central heating system ;)
    This is not always possible. When you live in a building heated from the municipal heating network, without thermostats you could even be in Saudi Arabia inside, even where there is weather automation (despite the automation, it often overheats a lot). Without such valves, in severe frosts, it can be hellishly hot inside (especially with a bad heating curve). It is different when you live in a cottage and have individual heating.
  • #23 15063974
    Anonymous
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  • #24 15065352
    Ptak3124
    Level 24  
    Noise in the valve is caused by too fast water flow and possible air in the system. If the pump is too "big", the phenomenon of noisy installation can arise anywhere... For example, sharp elbows, radiators or valves.
    Someone is giving good advice. You need a bypass downstream of the pump with adjustable flow.
    I remember the case that the investor "got used to" the noise in the installation. In his installation, the pump was replaced, some of the thermostatic valves and nothing helped. After some time, the decision was made to add underfloor heating. The 3D valve and the distributor pump have arrived. After this operation, the whole installation "quiet" ...
    The pump issue power adaptation looks like you have to delve into the manual. Adaptive pumps usually have the option of constant operation with different flow rates (gears) and automatic operation. Then the pump, after starting, needs from a few to several hours to "learn", i.e. adapt. After this period, her work stabilizes. It is not advisable to turn the pump off and on cyclically (e.g. room regulator).
  • #25 15065413
    BILGO
    Level 38  
    I have a WILO Pico yonos and it reacts almost immediately to changes in the flow resistance in the system. He does not need several hours to study.
    You only need to pre-set the expected head to which the pump optimizes its power ;)

Topic summary

The discussion revolves around the issue of squeaking radiator valves in an open heating system with an expansion tank. Users suggest that the squeaking may be caused by high-frequency vibrations in the valves due to improper flow rates or air in the system. Recommendations include installing differential pressure regulators, adjusting pump speeds, and ensuring proper valve settings. The importance of using pumps with variable characteristics, such as Wilo pumps, is emphasized to minimize noise. Users also discuss the impact of thermostatic valves and the need for potential replacements or adjustments to reduce noise levels in the heating system.
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