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[Solved] Best Condensing Clothes Dryers: Heat Pump vs. Economical Options, Brands & Features

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  • #1 15073709
    Xerxex
    Level 16  
    Hello, I would like to buy a clothes dryer, but I cannot decide which brand to choose. Certainly condensing, but is it profitable to buy with a heat pump or not? The dimensions of the dryer are not important because I have a large apartment. The dryer will be standing in a closed room. I would like to adjust the price to the capabilities of the dryer in order to focus on the economy class and functions. There are a few forum posts about buying dryers, but from earlier years. Thanks in advance for the hint.
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  • #2 15094963
    Ryski
    Level 20  
    Previously, I had the basic BEKO model for about PLN 1,300 - she was able to shrink clothes - from the beginning there were problems with water evaporation on the display - now it was completely dead.

    Bought now ARISTON AQC9 4F5 T Z1 - condenser with heat pump - longer drying time, e.g. for towels and heavy laundry, approx. 4 hours. It does not shrink clothes and is much more energy-efficient.
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  • #3 15148487
    Xerxex
    Level 16  
    Thank you for the information. I am waiting for further entries.
  • #4 15305123
    Jericho24
    Level 20  
    Have you already bought a dryer?
  • #5 15342602
    Xerxex
    Level 16  
    I am not reading yet and I am thinking which one to choose.

    Added after 4 [minutes]:

    How should I choose a dryer for a washing machine, i.e. I have a washing machine 8 kg Samsung Eco Bubble WF1802WFVS, should I choose a dryer 8 kg or larger?
  • #6 15343789
    Borutka
    Level 29  
    Xerxex wrote:
    I am not reading yet and I am thinking which one to choose.

    Added after 4 [minutes]:

    How should I choose a dryer for a washing machine, i.e. I have a washing machine 8 kg Samsung Eco Bubble WF1802WFVS, should I choose a dryer 8 kg or larger?

    When you look at the labels of your clothes, you will notice that relatively few items can be tumble dried. Well, unless you wash the entire load of the washing machine at once, e.g. bedding and towels - but it probably doesn't happen too often
  • #7 15344600
    Xerxex
    Level 16  
    I did not think about it and thank you for the advice. I thought everything could be dried regardless of the type of clothes :-? . I am surprised because I checked the labels of my individual clothes and it turns out that even sweatpants cannot be dried in this type of devices :oops: Do any of you use a dryer to dry clothes, regardless of the prohibition on the label?
  • #8 15344893
    Borutka
    Level 29  
    1. Drying in a standard program is a very high airflow temperature.
    2. Every 2-3 drying times you should clean the filter, on which there will be a lot of fluff ... that is the fibers from your clothes.
    I only dry bed linen, towels and cloths, inferior cotton underwear and some cotton clothes "around the house". Sometimes I throw on jeans - if I have to.
    But it's worth buying a dryer anyway - I can't imagine drying it on a string :)
    But I would not be too excited about top models ... each one will dry out, and the simpler ones will be more reliable.
  • #9 15360869
    Xerxex
    Level 16  
    Thank you very much for your answer.
  • #10 15364749
    Maciej82k
    Level 9  
    Xerxex wrote:
    Thank you very much for your answer.


    So yes, there is a difference when it comes to dryers.

    In Poland, you mainly have Condensing dryers (i.e. those that do not need to be connected to the drain because the water collects in the tank) as a group. They include so-called dryers with a "heater" and a dryer with a heat pump.

    As I read when someone generalizes without knowing the topic and says that not everything will be washed in the dryer, well. . . he did not keep up with the technologies, he just stopped buying his first dryer and then the companies probably did not develop :) and did not introduce new solutions. Just like people, they have no idea what is the difference between a fan heater and hot air in cookers / ovens.
    To the point :)

    Heater dryer, as I call them (someone probably stopped on them before), you cannot dry everything in them because there is a risk of damage to clothes, especially clothes made of artificial fabrics.
    As for why this is so, you can easily find out why it is so in such and such drying technology.
    Heat pump dryers, well, we dry what we want with what we want without the risk of damaging clothes from what they are. There is a small exception, but now I don't remember what kind of fabric it is.

    Of course, the main argument for buying a Heat Pump Condenser Dryer is that it uses MUCH smaller amounts of electricity.
    Heater 8kg about 3.6 to 4.5kwh even per cycle
    8kg heat pump approximately 1.4kwh per cycle

    The difference in purchase is big because the A +++ Beko or A ++ Electrolux heat pump dryer is around PLN 2,500 and a heater dryer, e.g. Bosch B class, PLN 1,800.
    However, calculate the difference in electricity bills per year and you will quickly find out in how quickly you will pay for the purchase of a heat pump dryer in your bills.

    As for the types, for me Electrolux and Beko (A ++ or A +++)

    When it comes to viability, someone else has to comment. But it's best not ONE person whose ONE equipment broke down, and he generalizes that such or such break down more because it broke down for him, only a person who passed between 2005 and 2015 some number of such devices. Preferably a service technician.

    Best regards and enjoy your shopping :)
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  • #11 15365286
    Borutka
    Level 29  
    Maciej82k wrote:

    Heater dryer, as I call them (someone probably stopped on them before), you cannot dry everything in them because there is a risk of damage to clothes, especially clothes made of artificial fabrics.

    What does the heater have to do with it? What is the temperature of the iron you iron e.g. with artificial tobacco?
    The content of the artificial fabric does not limit the possibility of drying in the dryer. An example is (according to the markings on the label) medical clothing, polyethylene down and every piece of clothing, without exception, which I bought in Canada. From your statement, I understand that the clothing manufacturer, while sewing a label with a prohibition on drying, did not know that there are super modern heat pump dryers that do not damage fabrics?
    It is more about the quality and technique of fabrication and impregnation of the fabric, and not about the content of artificial fibers. The result of improper treatment is, for example, a reduction in the fabric's resistance to subsequent staining, and not only some physical damage. The same applies to the care labels for the washing instructions.
    Maciej82k wrote:

    Heat pump dryers, well, we dry what we want with what we want without the risk of damaging the clothes from what they are. There is a small exception, but now I don't remember what kind of fabric it is.

    Did you read it in the advertisement or in the user manual? Waiting for a quote from the manual !! Because I always use the equipment in accordance with the instruction manual, and not based on the assumptions of home-grown experts.
    Maciej82k wrote:

    Of course, the main argument for buying a Heat Pump Condenser Dryer is that it uses MUCH smaller amounts of electricity.
    Heater 8kg about 3.6 to 4.5kwh even per cycle
    8kg heat pump approximately 1.4kwh per cycle

    But the drying cycle time is at least twice as long.
    With the difference in power consumption, you have colored it a little by comparing typical models.
    When buying such a device, I focus on my convenience and the bill for electricity higher by a few zlotys does not impress me.
    Maciej82k wrote:
    Oh well . . . he does not keep up with the technology, he just stopped buying his first dryer

    But who will forbid the progressive :) . You don't have time to read what the difference between these dryers really is. The restrictions in the consumption of electricity resulted in the use of a heat pump, and thus in total deterioration of the functionality of the device. So you have to think of some advantages, and you gulp down these folders like a pelican. Remember that drying requires temperature and air circulation. And no magician over the next millennia will change that.

    I will just add that each, even the simplest, dryer has "delicate" programs, where the drying temperature does not exceed 40 degrees (as if someone were afraid of getting burned :) ). But of course the cycle is significantly longer, catching up with heat pump dryers.
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  • #12 15366478
    Jericho24
    Level 20  
    Maciej82k wrote:
    Heater dryer, as I call them (someone probably stopped on them before), you cannot dry everything in them because there is a risk of damage to clothes, especially clothes made of artificial fabrics.
    As for why this is so, you can easily find out why it is so in such and such drying technology.
    Heat pump dryers, well, we dry what we want with what we want without the risk of damaging the clothes from what they are. There is a small exception, but now I don't remember what kind of fabric it is.
    Strong arguments indeed for the differences.
    Maciej82k wrote:
    Of course, the main argument for buying a Heat Pump Condenser Dryer is that it uses MUCH smaller amounts of electricity.
    Heater 8kg about 3.6 to 4.5kwh even per cycle
    8kg heat pump approximately 1.4kwh per cycle
    You probably haven't seen the posts of users who have stated themselves that heat pump dryers quickly get dirty on clothes, which significantly reduces their efficiency - read: electricity consumption increases.In addition, in the event of a breakdown, their service is much more expensive. Everything was given on the electrode.


    @Borutka you're right.
  • #13 15368802
    Maciej82k
    Level 9  
    I can see that personal travels in answers are still an indispensable domain of discussions in various discussion forums. But not about that.
    Times in heat pump dryers are longer (it is logical) because they operate at lower drying temperatures (and therefore lower power consumption) and need more time to dry clothes, which means that the times are longer and therefore it is also safer drying for most fabrics.
    As for the issues related to the life of the devices (problematic cleaning that someone mentioned, etc.), I did not say anything at all, so I completely do not understand the sentences written on my website on this issue.
    I raised the issue of the cost of using the currents of the dryer and the safety of fabrics.
    Please answer, what is safer for any fabrics (apart from a towel, etc. that need to be "boiled"), high or low temperature, both for washing and drying? (in terms of durability of clothes or color durability, or when it comes to washing, removing stains, e.g. organic)

    Compare the times and electricity consumption. . . or not, I will present it myself below.
    Two dryers, e.g. WTB86201 and DPY8506.
    The comparison is made for the reference programs in both dryers. And now somebody tell me it's not such a huge difference in cost?

    Programs kg. Spin (rpm) Remaining moisture after centrifuging Electricity cost / cycle Cost / cycle difference (price 1kwh ~ 0.60gr) Drying times [min] Time difference [min]
    BEKO BOSCH BEKO BOSCH
    Cotton Cupboard drying 8 1000 60% 1.42 4.61 PLN 1.91 174 126 48
    Drying for ironing 8 1000 60% 1.05 3.53 PLN 1.49 139 103 36
    Synthetics Cupboard drying 4 800 40% 0.51 1.42 PLN 0.55 75 46 29


    Below is the difference in electricity consumption per year (how many washes, as many drys).

    Average quantity Drying / year (1/2 synthetic-1/2 cotton) BEKO BOSCH
    220 PLN 130.68 PLN 419.76


    When calculating the average annual cost, I assumed that we would dry half of the cotton items and half of the synthetic fabrics of various colors. However, we all know that the vast majority of washing / drying items are cotton items that absorb more water, so longer programs will be needed to dry these items (after spinning), that is, with a higher power consumption. But let's stay on the division of the half and the half.
    Taking the average I took it the difference will be refunded after 3 years at the latest when buying a B Class dryer compared to A +++ Class (with the given models and their prices according to price comparison websites).
    Talking about drying times. Of course, for all of us, the concept of time is relative, but let's be honest about the difference the longest program 2 hours 06 minutes and 2 hours 54 minutes is such a huge gap? On the other programs, these time differences are much smaller, on the order of 10-max 20 minutes.
    In return, we get equipment that is much more energy-saving and gentler / safer for fabrics.
    This is my opinion and approach to the issue of choosing a dryer.
    The answer is for yourself which dryer you choose.
  • #14 15368937
    Borutka
    Level 29  
    earlier
    Maciej82k wrote:

    As I read when someone generalizes without knowing the topic and says that not everything will be washed in the dryer, well. . . he does not keep up with the technology, he just stopped buying his first dryer

    Now
    Maciej82k wrote:
    I can see that personal wandering in answers is still an indispensable area of discussion

    And I believe that unfortunately personal tours are your specialty. How do you know this is my first dryer, not keeping up etc? ...
    This is a technical forum. The author of the topic asks ... forum users respond. And some people are wrong, because they probably have the right to do so. And you as the next forum member responding, according to the custom in the forum, you should limit yourself to presenting your point of view (you are not sure that it is correct) without discrediting other statements and their authors.
  • #15 15372988
    Xerxex
    Level 16  
    Thank you for the answers to all forum members. Maciej82k do you own any dryer and can you relate to what you wrote (thank you for such an extensive post) in a practical way? Borutka, I also have one question for you, namely what type of dryer do you have, i.e. model, brand with or without a heat pump?
  • #16 15374023
    Borutka
    Level 29  
    Gorenje has his years, of course, without a heat pump (there was no such thing then). I will warn my adversary here that this is my second dryer :twisted: . I still have newer dryers in my family, but also without a pump. But my sister has a dishwasher with a heat pump :not: https://www.elektroda.pl/rtvforum/topic1626421.html
    The guys are still struggling here :)
  • #17 15376281
    Xerxex
    Level 16  
    Thanks for the link, I'll be happy to hear from others.
  • #18 15382519
    Kajkametr
    Level 13  
    I chose a washer / dryer due to the fact that mold was coming out on the walls when I hung up the usual laundry .... I have a poorly ventilated apartment. The washing machine suzarka is very convenient because I live in a block of flats and I have little space to put two appliances ...

    I chose a Bosh model and I bought Euro agd in the rtv store. If you want to buy new equipment, it is worth it because the store currently has a lot of post-holiday sales, so many equipment can be bought at a much better price than normal. They also offer the option of buying in 0% installments.
  • #19 15414688
    GumowyKurczak
    Level 12  
    And I will stick to the topic :)
    For days I will want to buy a dryer and I am thinking about the used art MIELE Softtronic T7780C HOME CARE or BOSCH WTW 865XX (there are several models, therefore XX) - if I was closer to MIELE before, today I think this Bosch suit me better.
    Can you help me choose? - I mean more about whether any of them breaks down more or is more sensitive to something, etc.
  • #20 15435462
    Xerxex
    Level 16  
    I will ask again about the choice of the dryer, i.e. I have an 8 kg washing machine, so I should look for a dryer with such load capacity or a larger one?
    Do you have experience when it comes to choosing a dryer brand? Are I interested in the statements of people who have equipment at home?
  • #21 15435540
    yanes
    Level 32  
    At the moment I have a Bosch WTW 86391 dryer with a heat pump, I bought a used one. Compared to the previous Siemens, the difference in power consumption is 50%. Washing in a 6kg Miele washing machine, after spinning at 1600 revolutions, the dryer dries 1.5 hours and uses 1 -1.2 kW of energy.
  • #22 15435549
    Xerxex
    Level 16  
    I understand that you have a 6 kg washing machine and a 7 kg dryer and this is what I ask, should I look for a dryer with a larger capacity than the washing machine?
  • #23 15435561
    yanes
    Level 32  
    That's exactly what I have and sometimes my wife adds up the laundry from two washing machines (leaving the clothes not to the dryer) for one drying, but then the time and energy increase. In my opinion, there is no need to look for a dryer that is larger than the washing machine load.
  • #24 15467316
    Xerxex
    Level 16  
    I decided to get the Samsung DV90H8000HW and I hope it works for me. Regards and thank you for the answers.
  • #25 16876774
    Zorka889
    Level 1  
    We spent a little time, but we bought a really useful device emag.pl/suszarka-kondensacyjna-bosch-kl-a-8-kg-antivibration-design-65-db-wth85200pl/pd/DYG96YBBM - I can recommend it, it works quietly, and the clothes they are not crumpled
  • #26 16935909
    Xerxex
    Level 16  
    The choice fell on the dryer described above. Thanks for the answers.
  • #27 16998452
    baconp
    Level 14  
    https://www.elektroda.pl/rtvforum/topic2918741.html

    I recommend an alternative multi-page topic to complement this thread.
    "Condenser tumble dryer with or without heat pump?"

    Ps I will add from myself that I did not manage to get such high values of electricity consumption per cycle in the dryer as in the instructions
  • #28 17200371
    Xerxex
    Level 16  
    I recommend the Samsung DV90H8000HW, which my wife and I bought, and I highly recommend it. Thank you for your answer.

Topic summary

The discussion revolves around the choice between condensing clothes dryers, specifically comparing heat pump models to more economical options. Users share experiences with various brands and models, highlighting the energy efficiency and drying times of heat pump dryers, such as the ARISTON AQC9 4F5 T Z1 and Bosch WTW 86391. Concerns about drying capacity, fabric care, and maintenance are addressed, with recommendations for brands like Miele and Samsung. Users emphasize the importance of matching dryer capacity with washing machine load and the benefits of heat pump technology in terms of energy consumption and fabric safety.
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