Broken lock on the door - how to open the door

krakarak wrote:

A drilling through the bottom of the insert causes a drill hole and screws

Have you tried, is it theoretically? I tried. A good drill, a strong drill, it went into the insert (brass or something similar) like butter. I missed the screw and I found no way to hold the hand drill effectively to get rid of the screw.

rys57 wrote:

... Did you try, is it theoretically? ...

I looked at very good photos and read the paperwork done by a forensics technician on apartment break-ins and saw where the drill was being drilled. So I describe it. For the sake of making my words credible, I will not drill into my locks.
Since the criminals managed to do it, you can see it.
Just as you can make a decent "breaker" for cars, you can make a drill to beat the bolt.

krakarak wrote:

Since the criminals managed to do it, you can see it.

I probably didn't grow up to be a criminal because I didn't make it .
I called a specialist from the "castle ambulance". I heard the text more or less: "if you stand here, I'll do it for three hundred pence, and when you go downstairs, you should get a liter". Guess what I chose?

You bet a liter and bought for yourself with the money you saved?

You have to do something. The author will not move the lock with his eyes and thinking.
If the advice on this topic is bad, let him turn to specialists for making keys, many of them are golden handles for opening various locks. Once upon a time, "at the factory", he would open the lock in a safe.

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Because good God has already done what he could, now it's time to call a professional ...

krakarak wrote:

To the author, for the relaxation of the atmosphere, a tongue-in-cheek suggestion - to end these disputes, drill / do not drill, spit / rake - ask a familiar sapper or blast miner to open.

My friend @ balloon3 use your imagination - when there is no insert in the hole, it is possible to insert a hard, curved wire into it and while fumbling with it (just like the movable claw of the insert rotates) grab some part of the sliding lock and withdraw it. It is not known what prevents the lock from retracting, but pessimism alone will not help.
The screw only holds the insert so that it does not slip into the apartment or pull it out. Drilling through in the lower part of the insert causes drilling and screws and thus free (relatively) removal of the insert.

I think that the author is not sleeping in the staircase and has already opened the door.

I don't know what to discuss here.
If the insert has been damaged, it is removed by drilling the fastening screw, if the lock is done the same, the insert is removed and with a simple pick, the lock bolt is moved.
After opening, the lock is removed and cleaned of the filed, or it is repaired, and then either reinstalled in the door, or a new one is inserted and a new cylinder is inserted.
Any other sequences and manipulations are a waste of time.
Professional locksmiths called to the lock do exactly the same after determining the damage to the lock or the insert.

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rys57 wrote:

krakarak wrote:

A drilling through the bottom of the insert causes a drill hole and screws

Have you tried, is it theoretically? I tried. A good drill, a strong drill, it went into the insert (brass or something similar) like butter. I missed the screw and I found no way to hold the hand drill effectively to get rid of the screw.

The trick with drilling the screw is to cut off the edge of the insert and at the same time have good drill guidance in the drilled hole.
If, for example, the lock bolt in the frame is on the right side of the insert, the hole is drilled closer to the left edge of the insert, at a slight angle towards the right side, so that the end of the drill, after reaching the fastening screw, is slightly outside the insert material.
Then we have a fairly strong guiding of the drill in the hole, at the same time the screw is cut outside the insert and its cut end does not remain in the insert blocking it.

All in all, the door has already been opened, but I'll let myself be interrupted.
Some people seem to be impaired logically. Since the door is locked, we open it starting with the least invasive methods or those that destroy the cheapest / easiest parts to replace, and as a last resort we start the drastic ones. Since WD40 did not help, the easiest way is to drill the insert and see what can be done. If it does not do anything, then only then destroy the door frame. There is no big loss, the cartridge is not that expensive, and maybe it will be possible to save the door frame that is troublesome to replace?

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I close the topic. As you can see, the author is no longer interested in it.
Hope he did it.
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