Broken lock on the door - how to open the door

Hi,
my problem is there is a broken lock on a locked door. ISEO lock insert, model ISR6. According to the information obtained on the Internet, the insert is protected against drilling. The key turns several times on each side, there is a jump like when opening the lock, unfortunately the lock does not open. I have no idea what to do with it. There were attempts to move the lock. The cylinder is functional, unfortunately the lock on the door has failed. Due to the location, the specialist may not arrive in a few days. If anyone has any idea, I am asking for advice.

There was no information about the castle. You only provided the insert model. In any case, he suggests yanking the door, trying to pull it towards you, or pushing it and trying to open it. Reaming the liner is a bad idea.

Or maybe you can somehow inject WD40 or something similar into the lock.
Dismantle the handle and then treat it with a rust remover.
Press the door to one side or the other.

Thanks for the answers.

Gerda Castle. I do not know the specific model. He is about 16 years old. The cartridge is skipping all the time, listening to the sound as it is opening, but nothing happens. There were jerks and the whole door and the lock itself with large pliers. I doubt that a rust remover treatment would do anything. There is something obviously damaged mechanically. Rather not spring, as there is a skipping sound.

It seems to me that I can only cut the hinges (they are anti-burglary, so twisting or undermining the threads), or try to drill a metal overlay (wooden frame) in the frame and break the door open.

Anyone else have any idea?

I had a similar problem - I drilled a hole in the door frame perpendicular to the lock inserted into it and with a sharp, very hard metal rod (cut file) inserted into this hole, I moved the lock. Managed to.

Christophorus wrote:

You can try to drill the insert in the place where the screw securing it is. If you manage to drill the insert at this point, its mounting will be damaged and you should be able to remove the insert. Then you can try to open the lock through the hole after the removed insert with a suitably bent wire.

How does a colleague want to drill it with the door closed? and when they are open, why drill?
The only thing that makes sense, as long as there are no locks and the cylinder can be grabbed with a solid key - you can break the cylinder more than once and the rest is easy
And here it looks like the cylinder is ok, the lock is damaged.

krakarak wrote:

I had a similar problem - I drilled a hole in the door frame perpendicular to the lock inserted into it and with a sharp, very hard metal rod (cut file) inserted into this hole, I moved the lock. Managed to.

It's a good idea.
Only the hole will remain.
But the easiest way is with a rust remover.
The WD40, CX80 opens the eyes of the doubters.
I may not have toilet paper in the car, and this measure will be there.

rozales wrote:

But the easiest way is with a rust remover.
The WD40, CX80 opens the eyes of the doubters.

If something broke in the lock and the bolt does not move, what will WD40 help? Compressed gas with a spray will push the bolt or what?

You can take an angle grinder or an ax right away.
However, I start with more delicate and less costly methods.

The key is to remove the insert, not to fight the door - which is more difficult and expensive

I would use a service such as "Emergency lockpicking".

101pawel wrote:

karolark wrote:

The key is to remove the insert, not to fight the door - which is more difficult and expensive

Basis, this is sensible advice. When you take out this insert, what will you do?

This is when I have access to the inside of the lock, and thus the possibility of unlocking it - without it, we can talk for a while - and ideas about tearing the door frame are at least frivolous.

I would start by drilling the insert
What's the harm?
The insert is designed to resist a burglar who has a limited time and the drill in his paw looks suspicious.
Taking a door off its hinge is some kind of abstraction.
With friends, we opened the door in an emergency, and most often there were a few of us, each of us added something to the pool of knowledge and the security was cracked (as it used to be, it was always a way to come up with a model) having the equipment and time to combine each security feature anyway. The only role of security is delay, so all you need is patience and acting legally is a time like a marasu.

@ 101pawel the phrase "breaking the door" used here is probably popular in Poland, the so-called mental shortcut. The author stated that

CreatinePowder wrote:

... I feel as if I have to cut the hinges ... and break down the door ...

Observing the work of specialists in defeating the door, I saw that they always removed the insert first, so the advice to remove it is right.

Recently, specialist thieves managed to defeat Gerd's lock in his neighbor's apartment so beautifully and quickly that when he heard that someone could not open the door (he thought his wife was digging in it), he got up from his armchair and went to open it. Meanwhile, the door was opened by the thief and for a second they looked at each other, both of them walled up with the impression
The thief recovered and escaped faster, so he did not describe to the police the method of how he had defeated the castle
They removed only half the lock insert, leaving not the slightest trace of their operation on the door. This is just a higher driving school ...

101pawel wrote:

There is no other option than to get to the door frame.

101pawel wrote:

karolark wrote:
... ideas about tearing a door frame apart are frivolous to say the least.
You have a sick imagination - insert this quote about "tearing the door open" because I can't see the thread.

Maybe I have a sick image, but as you can see, I remember what I write, which I also recommend to my friend.

101pawel wrote:

My imagination, through "taking the frame", sees the treatment with the air ventilator and maybe with the chisel of the place in the frame in which the lock bolt is embedded. Your imagination sees it as "breaking the door". I don't know about you, but I can see the difference. EOT

Buddy, do not beat the foam, you are going to the side - any interference even in the door frame is stupid - the only sensible solution is to break / drill the cylinder - then it is possible to unlock the lock through the hole on it.
Before you write a new post - the question is, have you ever reamed the liner?
A good drill and a moment of time

karolark wrote:

the question is, have you ever reamed the liner?

The insert is reamed when the key is lost, but the lock is functional. Then the door is opened with a screwdriver and a new insert is inserted. It will not do anything here - the cartridge will not come out, because a screw is running across it. Even if it did, the lock would not open with the wire, because the author clearly writes that the mechanism is audible, i.e. it released something further - beyond the reach of the wire. Otherwise:

CreatinePowder wrote:

the insert has protection against drilling.

balonika3 wrote:

It will not do anything here - the cartridge will not come out, because a screw is running across it.

balonika3 wrote:

CreatinePowder wrote:
the insert has protection against drilling.

More faith will come out - even such an insert can be drilled - it only increases the time - a good drill and no problem.
So that there were some inserts, I bored them.

So what that you drilled? What's got a busted lock for that unfortunate insert?

balonika3 wrote:

So what that you drilled? What's got a busted lock for that unfortunate insert?

The fact that after its removal it is possible to unlock the lock - written word so difficult to understand?

I understand that the screw evaporated during this drilling, and you opened the broken lock by force of will.

To the author, for the relaxation of the atmosphere, a tongue-in-cheek suggestion - to end these disputes, drill / do not drill, spit / rake - ask a familiar sapper or blast miner to open.

My friend @ balloon3 use your imagination - when there is no insert in the hole, it is possible to insert a hard, curved wire into it and while fumbling with it (just like the movable claw of the insert rotates) grab some part of the sliding lock and withdraw it. It is not known what prevents the lock from retracting, but pessimism alone will not help.
The screw only holds the insert so that it does not slip into the apartment or pull it out. Drilling through in the lower part of the insert causes drilling and screws and thus free (relatively) removal of the insert.

I think that the author is not sleeping in the staircase and has already opened the door.