Insulating House: PGE Replacing Connection Insulators, New Insulated Lines & Meter Removal

Hello.
I'm going to insulate the house, unfortunately the connection insulators (4 pieces) are so close to the wall that I can't fit the styrofoam there. Is there a chance that PGE will replace my old lines with an insulated one, at their expense? If I wrote an application for the replacement of the connection due to renovation, would it be at the expense of PGE?
Is the replacement itself, no matter at whose expense, must be performed by PGE or an electrician?

Secondly, I would like to take the meters (2 pcs) out of the house + replacement of the pre-meter protection (at the moment it is an over 40-year-old, rusty box with 4 screw-in plugs). The costs will be on my side. Can a licensed electrician friend do this for me? Do I also have to write an application to ZE?

Replacement of the connection will be at your expense.

What about Uncle G?
https://www.google.pl/search?q=request+for+ex...oq=request+for+replacements%C4%99+with%C5%82% C4%85cza&aqs=chrome..69i57&sourceid=chrome&es_sm=93&ie=UTF-8

Can it be replaced with cable?
The new façade is a pity to be marred by hanging wires.
The price of the material is similar, you just have to dig.

driver_ps wrote:

Is there a chance that PGE will replace my old lines with an insulated one, at their expense?

Poor chances.
You count your money and PGE counts yours. Do not count on the fact that PGE is a charity institution. Your renovation - your costs.

Please go to the PGE headquarters in person, to the connection department. There you will learn more than on the forum.

Chances are, it all depends on the people in the area. PGE is also interested in replacing the old bare connections with insulated ones because they are much less troublesome in operation. But as in the state, when someone is stubborn, you can't handle it.
Either way, you will have to prepare a hook in the wall, wires to the meter box and the box itself at your expense. A licensed electrician you know can do it for you.

zbich70 wrote:

Poor chances.
You count your money and PGE counts yours. Do not count on the fact that PGE is a charity institution. Your renovation - your costs.

It's not that bad, usually the ZE replaces the connection after bringing the UP to the ZL. Depending on the PGE branch, the connection is replaced with the structure, stand or ZL. Raising the UPS to PLN and the cost of adapting the installation to the change in power supply on the recipient's side

Thanks for the replies.
I was in PGE but there every person has a different opinion. The nice lady from the office called 3 guests and got 3 answers:
1. Only at my expense,
2. At the expense of PGE, if they find that the lines are in bad condition - they fall off, nothing sparks and I have not remembered for 30 years that they were broken even once,
3. At the expense of PGE - an application must be written that in connection with the renovation there is a danger of working on uninsulated lines (I find it hard to believe).
It turns out that it all depends on who the application goes to and what mood they have. Whole Poland.

@haneb the wires will go under the façade. From what I've learned, the installation must be accepted before laying the polystyrene. Digging is a problem, because the pole is on the other side of the road, about 40m from the house.

It is understandable for me that the entire cost of preparing the connection and taking out the meter is on my side. This is the insulated wire. If it was several meters, it could be at my expense.

I asked if I increase the power allocation + more powerful fuses, will they replace the line at their expense. Yes, of course, if it is above 17kW. So it's out, I have 3kW.

3kW on each phase? Total 9 kW, I understand. Just out of curiosity, is 17kW for the phase or the whole thing?

17 kW applies to the whole.

Hello everyone.
I had a very similar situation when insulating my house. I also had uninsulated cables and a meter in the apartment. So I submitted an application to ZE to replace the wires between the pole and the house with the so-called "plait" and for permission to move the meter to the external facade of the building and I attached a situational sketch as requested. I waited for an answer (despite several prompts) from March to late November/December. In the meantime, I managed to finish the renovation of the facade. Unfortunately, the meter remained in the apartment (I only prepared the installation under insulation for possible relocation of the meter in the future). They come back to the question of "who should pay for it" ZE's answer was unequivocal that all costs are borne by the investor, i.e. me (of course, I transfer everything later to ZE). In addition, I am to prepare a meter transfer project, which should be reviewed and approved by the ZE. In a word, new connection conditions have been issued that take into account my "wishes", so I have to pay.
I suppose it will be similar in your case.

For my part, I will add that it will be better for you (if you are already going to invest in moving the meter) to submit an application to the energy company to change the connection to an earth cable. Then, ZE will put a ZK in which the measurement part will be located (and the meter will be placed in it, and a junction box will be installed in the place of the current meter. The solution will be more future-proof because in the future, if you want to build a building, you will be relieved of the formalities related to the power connection to it.

polaklbn wrote:

and in the place of the current meter, they will install a junction box for you.

"They will" or who will? Supplier?
Do not mislead - in the solution you propose, as in any other, the supplier will not interfere in the recipient's installation and will not install any boxes in the place of the meter.

zbich70 wrote:

polaklbn wrote:

and in the place of the current meter, they will install a junction box for you.

"They will" or who will? Supplier?
Do not mislead - in the solution you propose, as in any other, the supplier will not interfere in the recipient's installation and will not install any boxes in the place of the meter.

If the meter is taken away, will the continuity of the connection be interrupted and there will be no electricity in the house? When implementing the cable connection with the replacement of the power supply unit, the company performing the work and moving the meter from the house to the metering part in the ZK connects this installation. Perhaps not in cans and using connecting bones, but twists the veins "on the snout", insulates and hides under the base of the meter (because I have met such flowers too)

I do not understand why you wrote that no one will interfere with the installation ... So when placing ZK and laying WLZ, the recipient transfers the meter himself? The recipient himself connects the wlz with the installation?! Maybe he also puts jumpers himself to power the measuring part?!

polaklbn wrote:

I don't understand why you wrote that no one will interfere with the installation...

I hasten to explain.
The general rule, whether it is the reconstruction of an existing connection or a new connection, is that the power plant (or its subcontractor) performs what is up to the ownership limit. WLZ from the connector to the building is performed by the recipient at his own expense and effort (i.e. an electrician hired by the recipient).
What you wrote about is a deviation from this rule and takes place when the recipient fails to complete the WLZ before the ZE. Then the contractor of the overhead connection*, in order to maintain the continuity of power supply, makes a provisional connection to the old property boundary, and when it is technically easier - to the switchgear.
But I emphasize - this is not a standard, but a makeshift solution.
* In the case of conversion of the connection to a cable connection and the lack of a prepared WLZ, ZE does not dismantle the old overhead connection until the recipient's electrician connects to the new power supply.
Yet another exception is when an employee of ZE or its subcontractors is the electrician hired by the recipient. But this is also not a standard situation.
Here on the forum we discuss how it should be, not how it is done here and there.

Hello

Eventually I replaced the links with ASX.
Service cost:
PGE wants about PLN 2,500
Electricians screamed from PLN 600 to PLN 1,500
The cost of the braid is about PLN 10/m.

When it comes to removing meters, usually a friend of a friend of your friend has the authority and will sign the service.
It is important to have an electrician who does it and knows the regulations in force in the area, otherwise you may be a little surprised when you receive it.
PGE picked it up and I put a new façade right away.

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