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[Solved] Shift Power Line Cost Estimate for Agri-Construction Plot: Adding Pole & Rerouting to POST 2

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  • #1 16402870
    wojciecho1994
    Level 2  
    Hello. I would like to buy an agri-construction plot and build a house on it. There is only a problem because the ŚN line passes through it. I would like to move it so that I add one pole and that it passes through the "POST 2". The only question is what the costs would be, more or less. The price of the plot and the location suit me very well only this line ... Anyone suggest something? I do not mean the valuation of the zloty, only indicative. The dimensions of the plot are real, but my drawing does not reflect it.
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  • #2 16402877
    filip.s
    Level 23  
    About 50-100 thousand. zloty

    Best regards.
  • #3 16402938
    zbich70
    Level 43  
    wojciecho1994 wrote:
    I would like to move it so that I add one pole and that it passes through the "POST 2".

    Note that columns 1 and 3 also need to be replaced with strong ones.
    Ask at the source first, that is, the owner of the network.
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  • #4 16403031
    PATAFIAN_PATAFIAN
    Conditionally unlocked
    zbich70 wrote:
    Ask at the source first, that is, the owner of the network.

    So most likely PGE.
    filip.s wrote:
    About 50-100 thousand. zloty

    Where do you get this information from? Have you moved?
    Buddy, the replacement of one pole, including labor, costs from 5,000 to 7,000, depending on the type of pole, etc. In this case, if, taking into account that the owner of the line agrees to such modifications, you will be charged a minimum of 20,000. You can find out more about the price from the line owner who has plans for it, etc.
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  • #5 16403033
    Krzysztof Reszka
    Moderator of Electrical engineering
    What about your neighbor?
  • #6 16403206
    zbich70
    Level 43  
    Krzysztof Reszka wrote:
    What about your neighbor?

    Good point.
    According to the drawing from the title post, the new span 2-3 will be located above the adjacent property.
    The owner of this property will not necessarily be happy about it.

    And buying a neighbor's happiness can be more expensive than building three new poles ... ;)
  • #7 16403742
    JohnySpZOO
    Electric installations specialist
    What about the entire formal and legal procedure?
    My colleague Filip.s gave approximate costs, but I would aim in the direction of PLN 60-70,000.

    In addition, the line can still be wired, which does not change the fact that two poles have to be replaced with new ones.
  • #8 16403835
    Strumien swiadomosci swia
    Level 43  
    They may also disagree because they cannot turn off the line for example.

    Secondly, it is better to move the house than the MV line.

    Added after 1 [minutes]:

    You have a large plot of land, I wouldn't do anything but put the house in this part to the right.
  • #9 16403946
    opornik7
    Electrician specialist
    I would apply to the Commune for an outline from the plan or a decision on development conditions. On the basis of these documents, I would only start analyzing the location of the building and then the issue of the MV line reconstruction. It may turn out that in a year or 5 years someone will come for permission to renovate the line and then you will make a condition for its shift.
  • #10 16404293
    zbich70
    Level 43  
    I would still find out what the current power supply looks like.
    Ie. where is the transformer station present and how many recipients are "hanging" there.
    If weak, the MV line above the plot is not so bad, and sometimes even beneficial ... ;)
  • #11 16404414
    JohnySpZOO
    Electric installations specialist
    Strumien swiadomosci swia wrote:
    They may also disagree because they cannot turn off the line for example.
    And what is the temporary power supply to the line from a transportable generator during the execution of works? Recently, we were doing the automation of the MV line with about 15 transformer stations - rural area. The fact in Tauron we had to wait for a month, because the mobile units were already planned, but it was possible.

    Strumien swiadomosci swia wrote:
    Secondly, it is better to move the house than the MV line. You have a large plot of land, I wouldn't do anything but put the house in this part to the right.
    The issue of road communication and building conditions. We have no orientation in the field. As I wrote above, the line can also be wired if there are $$$.

    zbich70 wrote:
    If weak, the MV line above the plot is not so bad, and sometimes even beneficial ... ;)
    I have a neighbor who has such a line on the neighboring plot - in our youth we played snipers by shooting birds from a procki / air rifle :)
  • #12 16404423
    Strumien swiadomosci swia
    Level 43  
    JohnySpZOO wrote:
    zbich70 wrote:


    If weak, the MV line above the plot is not so bad, and sometimes even beneficial ...


    I have a neighbor who has such a line on the neighboring plot - in our youth we played snipers by shooting birds from a procki / air rifle


    You can also tie 1m of shepherd's wire to 2 potatoes and in 50 villages the TV is turned off for a while.
  • #13 16404428
    zbich70
    Level 43  
    By the way, he is a one-post author with little interest in his topic.
    So why burn yourself in vain?
  • #14 16405057
    PATAFIAN_PATAFIAN
    Conditionally unlocked
    zbich70 wrote:
    So why burn yourself in vain?

    Well, at least so that people reading this topic in the distant future would find a solution without creating new topics and thus partially filling the electrode servers.
    zbich70 wrote:
    By the way, he is a one-post author with little interest in his topic.

    I do not agree with you. Frequently, in various types of topics, it can be noticed that the author of the topic writes back after a week or even two. Take into account that not every person has time to sit in front of the computer every day, some work (also in front of the TV), some have a health problem, and so on, therefore the cases vary.
    JohnySpZOO wrote:
    The issue of road communication and building conditions. We have no orientation in the field. As I wrote above, the line can also be wired if there are $$$.

    Wiring is a very good thing, but the neighbor must also agree to it if it goes on his plot.
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  • #15 16405083
    Krzysztof Reszka
    Moderator of Electrical engineering
    PATAFIAN_PATAFIAN wrote:
    Wiring is a very good thing, but the neighbor must also agree to it if it goes on his plot.

    But it can go on the border of plots without harm to anyone.
  • #16 16405146
    opornik7
    Electrician specialist
    Krzysztof Reszka wrote:
    But it can go on the border of plots without harm to anyone.

    Krzysiek, he can't. The area of influence of the investment is at stake.
  • #17 16405176
    Krzysztof Reszka
    Moderator of Electrical engineering
    opornik7 wrote:
    The area of influence of the investment is at stake.

    Not necessarily in this case. When you look at the map, the neighborhood plot is a scrap. Perhaps a communal wasteland. I have the Sn line in the border and I do not crush the copy of it. So goodwill can do a lot sometimes.
  • #18 16405188
    zbich70
    Level 43  
    opornik7 wrote:
    Krzysztof Reszka wrote:
    But it can go on the border of plots without harm to anyone.

    Krzysiek, he can't. The area of influence of the investment is at stake.

    And speaking humanly ;) ...
    A large trench needs to be excavated, the excavated material has to be deposited somewhere, the sand has to be delivered to the bedding, then it needs to be backfilled, compacted and restored to its original state.
    And God forbid that there were some florets or other daffodils to grow, or even radishes ...
    Splashed ...
    The cable line is unfortunately not just a line on the map ... :cry:
  • #19 16405221
    opornik7
    Electrician specialist
    Sorry, Chief ;) This map is supposed to be a sketch and not just any map. The author sketched something, but it probably has nothing to do with the PZP, if it exists. In its absence, the Public Purpose Decision will say everything.
    I don't think I need to explain everything to you.
  • #20 16405260
    Krzysztof Reszka
    Moderator of Electrical engineering
    We know, but what map is such a discussion. Until our author answers, we can move on and suggest various solutions.
  • #21 16405505
    JohnySpZOO
    Electric installations specialist
    zbich70 wrote:
    opornik7 wrote:
    Krzysztof Reszka wrote:
    But it can go on the border of plots without harm to anyone.

    Krzysiek, he can't. The area of influence of the investment is at stake.

    And speaking humanly ;) ...
    A large trench needs to be excavated, the excavated material has to be deposited somewhere, the sand has to be delivered to the bedding, then it needs to be backfilled, compacted and restored to its original state.
    And God forbid that there were some florets or other daffodils to grow, or even radishes ...
    Splashed ...
    The cable line is unfortunately not just a line on the map ... :cry:
    To the entire thread quoted:
    And where will the fence be, then, if the border will be occupied? I can see two versions of wiring here:
    - cables passing the border along the outline in the investor's plot in pipes - greater evil,
    - cables passing in the road lane - less evil for the investor - higher costs, free plot excluding the exit to the pole.

    How does it come out in the wash?
    As we all know based on the approvals obtained, which are usually hits. The technical solution will be developed by the designer.
  • #22 16406493
    Krzysztof Reszka
    Moderator of Electrical engineering
    JohnySpZOO wrote:
    And where will the fence be, then, if the border will be occupied?

    As for me, 50 cm from the fence (border).
    JohnySpZOO wrote:
    cables passing the border along the outline in the investor's plot in pipes - a greater evil,

    If you don't have what you like, you like what you have.
    JohnySpZOO wrote:
    cables passing in the road lane - less evil for the investor - higher costs, free plot excluding the exit to the pole.

    Move the pole behind the way and only the cable.
  • #23 16406511
    wojciecho1994
    Level 2  
    I'm back. Several answers. The plot shown is the 5th class of land, there is practically nothing next to the plot, there is also the consent of the neighbor, it can be assumed that it will be. Let's say the $$$$ are just what I wanted to know about the costs because the rates were different, but I honestly thought that I would reach 30,000. It's about displacement, but I like the line cabling too. The plot is to be fully functional. I think about a garage in the future ... I am able to put all 3 poles on my plot as long as it does not stand 10m from the border and most importantly, the line does not cross half the plot, but as close to the border as possible, even 5m from the border is enough for me.
  • #24 16406539
    Strumien swiadomosci swia
    Level 43  
    Go to ZE and ask the electricians. That should brighten up a lot.
  • #25 16407599
    JohnySpZOO
    Electric installations specialist
    Strumien swiadomosci swia wrote:
    Go to ZE and ask the electricians. That should brighten up a lot.
    Certainly, electricians at ZE have knowledge and will explain what and how they are at 14 are at the pickup dressed up for the exit.
    If you want to learn something, it is from office workers (specialists as they are now called) responsible for the operation of the power grid and investments. Where are you supposed to report? ZE is a behemoth, divided into regions, branches and outposts in which there are various creations - you need to know where to go and have a specific person, because security will not even let you into the building. It's best to ask your local disguise what happens in your local EV.

    The customer service office will also not help you, unless you submit a letter / application for the reconstruction of the MV network - after which someone will contact you or not because the waste paper administrative mode has to lie down and flatten under the weight of other waste paper - sometimes it also likes to get lost or not arrive.
  • #26 16411629
    pawel1992xxx
    Level 11  
    Hello,

    In this situation, it is best to wire the MV line. Only the question of costs remains ... You can also write a request to the ZE for a cabling. Maybe in some future modernization they will include such a solution.

    Best regards.
  • #27 16411741
    opornik7
    Electrician specialist
    pawel1992xxx wrote:
    In this situation, it is best to wire the MV line.

    Provided the owner agrees.
    pawel1992xxx wrote:
    You can also write an application to the ZE for wiring.

    Of course he can write. The answer will be one - please do everything at your own expense and effort.
    pawel1992xxx wrote:
    Maybe in some future modernization they will include such a solution.

    I wrote about this in post # 9.

Topic summary

The discussion revolves around the costs and procedures associated with relocating a power line that currently runs through a prospective agri-construction plot. Users estimate the costs for moving the line, suggesting figures ranging from 20,000 to 70,000 zloty, depending on the complexity of the work and the need to replace existing poles. It is advised to consult the local power network owner (likely PGE or ZE) for precise estimates and to understand the legal implications of the move. Concerns about neighbor consent and the potential impact on property boundaries are also raised. The possibility of cabling the line instead of relocating it is mentioned as a viable alternative, contingent on the owner's agreement and future modernization plans.
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