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Citroen C3 1.4 HDI Dashboard: ESP Always On & New Unknown Light Inquiry

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  • #1 15564339
    Braweheart
    Level 10  
    Hello,
    I have a question about the lights displayed on the dashboard.
    The ESP light has been on for some time, but that`s not the point, but now there is an unknown light with a different frame than the other one, because the skidding car is in a circle and in brackets.
    ESP is on all the time and after some time the second one came on, but now the second one is on from the very beginning.
    Please help me diagnose what it could be and what the second one is, which I don`t know.
    I will try to attach a photo of her.
    Regards
    Citroen C3 1.4 HDI Dashboard: ESP Always On & New Unknown Light Inquiry
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  • #2 15564505
    rafal.jaro
    VAG group specialist
    This is the ABS light. Connect your computer and see the errors. The ESP light comes on when one of the wheels slips, at which point you most likely have a system fault.
  • #3 15811995
    Zygan58
    Level 12  
    Hello. I would like to join in with a question: If this light turns on even though I do not have ESP, it may block the engine from starting, and can ABS failure also cause this? I replaced the clutch release bearing, after assembling all the necessary parts with the suspended wheels, I started the engine and checked whether it released, etc. It was ok. But the next day the light came on. The engine started and then died and won`t start. Lexia shows no defects. It won`t start and that`s it. Where to look? Regards, Zygan58
  • #4 15812439
    jurekk55
    Level 36  
    Review all parameters and states presented in the ECU, BSI and you will find out. Mistakes are not everything. What OPR?
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  • #5 15813832
    Zygan58
    Level 12  
    Hello. The following issue came up; After turning on the ignition: the fuel flow regulator at the injection pump buzzes quietly and this is probably not a normal symptom. I`m looking for an answer on the Internet, will replacing it solve the problem? OPR. from my lemon 10291. Regards, Zygan58 Citroen C3 1.4 HDI Dashboard: ESP Always On & New Unknown Light Inquiry
  • #6 15814036
    jurekk55
    Level 36  
    Zygan58 wrote:
    and this is probably not a normal symptom.


    Is. Connect it to diagnostic equipment and tell us what you find.
  • #7 15815488
    Zygan58
    Level 12  
    Hello. You`re right about the buzzing noise, but I don`t hear it at all in a Peugeot with a similar HDI engine. But I solved the problem as follows. I charged the battery and the starter gained vigor, after pumping it with coo and turning it for a little longer, it started the engine. It`s ok for now, we`ll see how it goes tomorrow. Thanks for the help. The next day I checked everything was OK. Regards, Zygan58
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  • #8 16174506
    Piotr swietnicki
    Level 8  
    But the light disappeared?
    Because the light comes on after I start the engine, but it doesn`t go away and the computer doesn`t show any errors.

    Moderated By CameR:

    Reg. 3/1/15. Don`t ask on the forum right away if you haven`t checked anything yourself or haven`t tried to diagnose it yourself. Remember that advice is provided remotely without physical access to the device, the problem must be very well described and understood by users, and the title should include the make, model and a short description of the fault.

    Reg. 3/1/19. Do not send messages in archived topics if it is another question, especially a different one from the person asking. Out of respect for the questioner, start your own topic. You can only add a way to solve the problem.

  • #9 16175037
    Anonymous
    Anonymous  
  • #10 16179871
    jurekk55
    Level 36  
    Piotr swietnicki wrote:
    Because the light comes on after I start the engine, but it doesn`t go away and the computer doesn`t show any errors.


    Post a photo of this indicator
  • #12 16183568
    jurekk55
    Level 36  
    I don`t know what you "reset" in BSI. Read the errors in the ECU and remove the problems
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  • #13 16184717
    Piotr swietnicki
    Level 8  
    And how should I do it, because I only have an OBD2 cable, or rather I don`t connect it to the ECU and BSI? I reset it as described on the Internet and what resets it, I don`t know.
  • #14 16737312
    motochrapek
    Level 12  
    Citroen C3 1.4Hdi 2005, if after starting the engine the ESP traction control light came on and is on all the time! e.g. after diagnostics with Lexia and Multidiag and this indicates an error, the fault concerns the air in the ABS/ESP pump, and when checking with another device, let`s say launch x431, it indicates (wear of brake pads or brake shoe linings, i.e. pad sensor) which physically lack! and there are such symptoms of error, I write this from practice! and damage to the ABS sensor is rare!

    I borrowed the image from a fellow subject Citroen C3 1.4 HDI Dashboard: ESP Always On & New Unknown Light Inquiry

    Regards
  • #15 16737778
    milejow

    Level 43  
    motochrapek wrote:
    I`m writing this from practice!

    I doubt it, show me a C3 with sensors in the pads. The pad wear sensor is not allowed to turn on the ESP light.

    Added after 2 [minutes]:

    motochrapek wrote:
    recirculation pump error, permanent failure

    And what a miracle this is?
  • #16 16738518
    motochrapek
    Level 12  
    To the miles

    So yes, my friend, if the traction control light is on, i.e. ESP/ABS in one is on all the time, in Citroen C3 1.4Hdi, then:

    I checked the equipment:

    1. Lexia error (Brake pad wear YES), what does it mean? yes, the ABS pump has air in it due to the loss of brake fluid in the reservoir, and therefore both programs indicate it as a brake pad sensor, which is physically missing, but the service program reads it and indicates it, so the mechanic, or rather the electromechanic, knows what`s going on! The point is that the pistons of the brake calipers or cylinders are already extended enough to make a difference, thus lowering the fluid level.

    2. CDIF error (Brake pad wear YES) - what does it mean? yes, the ABS pump has air in it due to the loss of brake fluid in the reservoir, and therefore both programs indicate it as a brake pad sensor, which is physically missing, but the service program reads it and indicates it, so the mechanic, or rather the electromechanic, knows what`s going on! The point is that the pistons of the brake calipers or cylinders are already extended enough to make a difference, thus lowering the fluid level.


    3. Launch X431 Diagun, same story as above

    So the definition of the programs indicates that the pad wear sensor is the same as in the above cases, i.e. diagnostics!

    So I have this equipment and I know what I am writing and saying here! each diagnosis always defines it this way in this case, and by the way, the traction control light applies to both ESP and ABS systems, so if the ABS pump has air in it, this is what happens and you can notice it when, for example, you press the brake pedal with the engine running, which goes down slowly and this means there is air in the pump! (A sporadic case of fluid leakage from the brake system, but this was already known from the very beginning of the driving test, etc.).

    And as a side note and off-topic, I will add that, for example, error P1351 with CDIF is a very common phenomenon in Citroen, Peugeot, etc. I will tell you that it is often an error caused by a voltage drop in the installation and is referred to as a transient defect! And someone would say that the glow plug pre-heating relay needs to be replaced? well no! you need to replace a glow plug, of course! There would be many examples of faults here!

    And as for what my friend put it I quote and what a miracle this is? yes, this is a miracle, i.e. an error that also accompanies 1.4Hdi, error of the recirculation pump, permanent failure concerns the EGR valve if it has no effect after cleaning or is it damaged? I`m blind! (symptoms weaken over time, uneven engine operation, etc.). But there are also cars where this cannot be done.

    Without specific diagnostics, one can only assume that the program is one thing and practice is another. It`s always like that!

    And maybe my friend Milejow could explain to me how the ABS/ESP pump works when the brake fluid level drops, i.e. what happens in the pump? how does the fault occur as a constant ABS pump, etc. (Maybe your friend could replace the pump?), (or maybe replace the sensor, ABS sensors, etc.).

    However, if there is wheel slippage, the ESP light will flash briefly and permanently, which means poor adhesion of the wheels to the asphalt surface, etc.

    Currently, I had a case in Citroen that an error occurred - the pump was mechanically blocked due to ABS/ESP - a permanent fault and it was not the valve section in the pump that was to blame, but the engine itself, so it was necessary to replace the set.. pump, the error after replacement obviously disappeared, i.e. the so-called traction light, but you should pay special attention to the no. pump controller must be the same!!!.

    When it comes to damage to any of the ABS sensors, in terms of the sensor itself or lack of contact in the pin plug due to often tarnished contacts, when diagnostics with Lexia or Multidiag with other equipment, it clearly indicates which wheel has the sensor damage!!!... These faults do not have nothing to do with, for example, the engine turning off or starting or other various coincidences that lead to an incorrect diagnosis of the actual fault that appears under many prompts from the program, because there are also such.

    Regards

Topic summary

The discussion revolves around a Citroen C3 1.4 HDI experiencing persistent dashboard warning lights, specifically the ESP light and an unknown light resembling a skidding car in a circle. Users suggest that the unknown light is likely the ABS light, indicating potential issues with the ABS system or wheel sensors. Several participants recommend connecting the vehicle to diagnostic equipment, such as Lexia or OBD2, to retrieve error codes for accurate diagnosis. Issues related to brake fluid levels, ABS pump air, and possible sensor damage are highlighted as potential causes for the warning lights. The conversation also touches on the implications of these lights on engine starting and overall vehicle functionality.
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