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Passat B5 FL - How to open the door or the engine cover without battery

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  • #1 16182874
    Rysiek2
    CCTV and Stationary Alarms specialist
    Hello colleagues!
    The problem is as follows:
    Due to the cold, my old Passat did not start. So I took out the battery and started charging. Because I was convinced that I could easily open the driver's door with the key, I closed the engine cover. Unfortunately it was my mistake.
    Currently it is like this:
    The key turns freely in the door lock (I only have one lock). In the extreme left position, the pin rises slightly (it can be seen through the glass). The attempted forceful turning ended with breaking the tip from the key housing (fortunately I have the second one).
    The boot lock (never used) does not rotate at all, so I can't get into the boot either.
    I am standing in the parking lot without entering from the bottom of the chassis.

    Help me please because I have no more ideas.
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    #2 16182933
    Polon27
    Level 18  
    Hello. I once did a similar maneuver. I managed in this way that I lay under the car in the front and connected the battery to ground (anywhere) and to the power cord of the starter (the thick one). I opened the toy car, then moved the battery to the place and recommended replacing the inserts in the door. If it is 1.9 then the starter is hard to reach, but it is possible from the right wheel arch from the front. However, you have to squeeze there. Good luck.
    Fight the flap lock, penetrator, rinse, rinse and try to spin.
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  • #3 16182941
    system70
    Level 11  
    It is possible that the boot lock is frozen. You have to try to gently start it. Because it is difficult to get to the bonnet lock
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    #4 16182951
    robokop
    VIP Meritorious for electroda.pl
    system70 wrote:
    It is possible that the boot lock is frozen

    It is not. Never used has blocked the corrosion.
    Remove the passenger side door handle cover, there should be a lock underneath it. And if it's not there - a small gel battery, with long wires - you can try to power it through the starter - it is the lowest, or the hook socket.
  • #5 16183108
    Strumien swiadomosci swia
    Level 43  
    robokop wrote:
    with long wires - you can try to power through the starter - it is the lowest, or the hook socket


    Exactly long thick wires and for starter.

    The hook socket does not work because and what to connect.
  • #6 16183161
    Rysiek2
    CCTV and Stationary Alarms specialist
    Polon27 wrote:
    However, you have to squeeze there.

    No chance. The toy car stands so unfortunately that the hill starts from the front, so there is no possibility in the front.
    Polon27 wrote:
    Fight the flap lock, penetrator, rinse, rinse and try to spin.

    I let it go so far without any effects. As if the key did not enter all is missing about 1 mm

    robokop wrote:
    Remove the passenger side door handle cover, there should be a lock underneath it.

    I tried but I do not know how it is fixed, whether it is pressed, latched or maybe some catch - I can not do it and I do not want to massacre this handle. Have you ever removed this cover?

    robokop wrote:
    with long cables - you can try to power through the starter

    But which way to get there? from the bottom plate protecting the engine, otherwise, as I wrote, I do not have access from the front.
  • #7 16183216
    Strumien swiadomosci swia
    Level 43  
    Then lift it from the passenger side with a lift. OR pull out the door drum.
  • #8 16183251
    robokop
    VIP Meritorious for electroda.pl
    Rysiek2 wrote:


    robokop wrote:
    Remove the passenger side door handle cover, there should be a lock underneath it.

    I tried but I do not know how it is fixed, whether it is pressed, latched or maybe some catch - I can not do it and I do not want to massacre this handle. Have you ever removed this cover?


    link
  • #9 16183266
    ociz
    VIP Meritorious for electroda.pl
    Strumien swiadomosci swia wrote:
    The hook socket does not work because and what to connect.

    It will work if it is 13 pins.
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    #10 16183292
    Polon27
    Level 18  
    Rysiek, do you have a trailer socket? If you have it, it should be 13 pins. Under 9 you have a permanent +, connect and it's ready.
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  • #11 16183323
    Rysiek2
    CCTV and Stationary Alarms specialist
    Polon27 wrote:
    Rysiek, do you have a trailer socket?

    Unfortunately I do not have a trailer socket.
  • #12 16183385
    robokop
    VIP Meritorious for electroda.pl
    Then choose the cheapest glass. Broke, will you be able to?
    When buying a glass, buy a lock repair kit - it costs about PLN 20.
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  • #13 16183426
    Rysiek2
    CCTV and Stationary Alarms specialist
    robokop wrote:
    Then choose the cheapest glass. Broke, will you be able to?

    Do you think that the destructive methods will be the cheapest?
  • #14 16183436
    Strumien swiadomosci swia
    Level 43  
    Rysiek2 wrote:
    Do you think that the destructive methods will be the cheapest?


    Pull out the insert.
  • #15 16183443
    robokop
    VIP Meritorious for electroda.pl
    The only feasible for you, as I read about your helplessness. You won't unscrew the engine cover - because you need to water the car and unscrew with 4 screws to get to the starter and give him current on the cables, you will not break the door handles, despite the fact that the link I posted is a lot of pictures - the "humane" methods of this lock end you can't open it in a cinematic way using wire by a layman.

    Added after 4 [minutes]:

    Strumien swiadomosci swia wrote:
    Pull out the insert.
    If it is tight, the door will crease and not move it.
    All in all, you can still drill the lock with a 14 drill, remove the fin and turn the steering cam with a screwdriver - maybe it will unlock.
  • #16 16183505
    Rysiek2
    CCTV and Stationary Alarms specialist
    robokop wrote:
    the handle will not break, despite the fact that the link I posted is a lot of pictures

    What is the point of breaking the handle since there is a cover under the cover? In Google I have not found any case that there was a lock under this cover. If you think there is a lot of this, maybe point to one.
  • #17 16183535
    robokop
    VIP Meritorious for electroda.pl
    Rysiek2 wrote:
    What is the point of breaking the handle since there is a cover under the cover? In Google I have not found any case that there was a lock under this cover
    You know what? Go, maybe check, because you have already written so many posts that this lock has certainly opened itself.
    Rysiek2 wrote:
    In Google I have not found any case that there was a lock under this cover
    Have you kindly checked at your place?
    Rysiek2 wrote:
    If you think there is a lot of this, maybe point to one.
    There are enough photos showing the construction of the door handle and how to remove it - especially the plastic cover.
  • #18 16183537
    Strumien swiadomosci swia
    Level 43  
    You know well you can attack the mask's lock and create it, or reach the battery from the pit to the plus and power it,

    You have a passeratti before you can drive away in 10,000 ways.
  • #19 16183546
    Rysiek2
    CCTV and Stationary Alarms specialist
    robokop wrote:
    You know what? Go, maybe check, because you have already written so many posts that this lock has certainly opened itself.

    As I can see, you can't talk peacefully here. Thank you to all colleagues for trying to help. I close the topic. If anyone has a constructive offer, please priv.
  • #20 16183555
    robokop
    VIP Meritorious for electroda.pl
    Rysiek2 wrote:
    As I can see, you can't talk peacefully here

    Relax, it's dear friend here all the time. You've been given several options, none of which suits you - and you haven't literally checked anything. With a little self-denial and desire, you would open this car in 5 minutes, without devastating or destroying anything. But it's best to do it as you can see.

Topic summary

The discussion revolves around a user facing difficulties accessing their Volkswagen Passat B5 FL after the battery was removed for charging. The user mistakenly locked the engine cover and is unable to open the driver's door or the boot, with the key turning freely in the lock. Various suggestions are provided, including connecting a battery to the starter from underneath the car, checking for a frozen boot lock, and removing the passenger side door handle cover to access the lock. Some responses suggest using a small gel battery for power or attempting to drill the lock as a last resort. The user expresses frustration with the lack of viable solutions and decides to close the topic, indicating a desire for constructive help.
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