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LTE Modems for Twisted Pair Connection to Router's WAN Socket - Antenna, ADSL Modem, & WiFi Setup

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  • #1 16185570
    tbed
    Level 10  
    Good morning,
    Gentlemen, are there any lte modems on the market that can be connected with a twisted pair to the router's WAN socket? The situation is that I currently have wireless internet access via an external antenna, on the roof and an adsl modem, in the attic, which is connected with a twisted pair, 20 m long, with a wifi router on the ground floor of the house. The twisted pair is routed through a ventilation duct, which is a non-invasive and invisible solution. Now, I would like to start using lte and I came up with something like this - an lte antenna on the roof, an lte modem in the attic connected to a router on the ground floor of the house. This solution would avoid running two long cables between the lte router and an external antenna on the roof. Are there such solutions? Maybe you could suggest some others? Can he put an lte router in the attic? but how to connect it then to the wi fi router located on the ground floor of the house?

    Thanks in advance,
    Tomek Bednarz
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    #2 16185606
    sanfran
    Network and Internet specialist
    You already have a router, if so what model?
    He concludes that the LTE modem has a built-in WiFi module and LAN sockets.
    In some models of routers, only part of the SWITCH can be used, i.e. connect the LAN cable of the LTE modem to the LAN of the router on the ground floor. Then only the top device is responsible for DHCP; and you can configure two WiFi networks, their users will be gray to see each other.
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  • #3 16185625
    bogiebog
    Level 43  
    You can even put the LTE router on the roof in the antenna, then you will minimize the loss of signal in the cable, and send the signal from the router to your home via twisted-pair cable.
  • #4 16186173
    tbed
    Level 10  
    sanfran wrote:
    You already have a router, if so what model?
    He concludes that the LTE modem has a built-in WiFi module and LAN sockets.
    In some models of routers, only part of the SWITCH can be used, i.e. connect the LAN cable of the LTE modem to the LAN of the router on the ground floor. Then only the top device is responsible for DHCP; and you can configure two WiFi networks, their users will be gray to see each other.


    The router on the ground floor of the house is TP-Link TL-WR941ND, I'm going to buy a Huawei B593 lte router that has wifi and lan sockets. I plan to put the Huawei B593 in the attic and connect it with possibly short cables with an external lte antenna and connect it with a lan cable with TP-Link TL-WR941ND standing on the ground floor. The goal is for Huawei in the attic to provide Internet access via wifi, and TP-Link on the ground floor to provide Internet access via wifi and lan.

    bogiebog wrote:
    You can even put the LTE router on the roof in the antenna, then you will minimize the loss of signal in the cable, and send the signal from the router to your home via twisted-pair cable.


    The goal is for Huawei in the attic to provide Internet access via wifi, and TP-Link on the ground floor to provide Internet access via wifi and lan.
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    #5 16186611
    matek451
    Level 43  
    Which mobile operator and what LTE offer do you want to use? Should it be a subscription or pre-paid? Have you done range and speed tests? Do you have an external antenna? Overall, the idea with an attic router and short antenna cables is good. WR-941 at the bottom connected via LAN-LAN and working as AP9, not a router). Access via WiFi and LAN to the same network created by the LTE router. Only the idea from B593 questionable, what version of B593 is it?
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  • #6 16186771
    sanfran
    Network and Internet specialist
    Then pull the twisted pair from top to bottom. Just remember that connecting two switches requires an X cable (crossover).
  • #7 16187534
    tbed
    Level 10  
    matek451 wrote:
    Which mobile operator and what LTE offer do you want to use? Should it be a subscription or pre-paid? Have you done range and speed tests? Do you have an external antenna? Overall, the idea with an attic router and short antenna cables is good. WR-941 at the bottom connected via LAN-LAN and working as AP9, not a router). Access via WiFi and LAN to the same network created by the LTE router. Only the idea from B593 questionable, what version of B593 is it?


    Prepaid on Play. Play seems to me to have the best conditions in Brody, where I live, the nearest bts in Środa Wlkp, the distance is about 5 km. I have not done tests. Now I ran speed tests on phones, both in the same place at home, far from the window, Plus - 4.42 Mbps, Play - 13.30 Mbps. I am planning to buy a Cybertech LTE / 4G 15dBi MIMO dual antenna. Was planning to buy a B593 s or u if in doubt what are you suggesting for a reasonable price?
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    #8 16187646
    matek451
    Level 43  
    For Play tests, use the network Cell Info program on phones. Show signal parameters and BTS data. Show screenshots. The nearest Play BTSs are Środa W. ul. 27 December. LTE1800, LTE2100 and LTE800 work on it. Another is Miąskowo with LTE1800 and LTE2100. The tests will show which you connect to and in what LTE band. It is possible that it is LTE800 (with 5MHz bandwidth in MIMO). On LTE1800, Play has 10MHz in MIMO and higher speeds. The antenna from Cybertech works on LTE1800 and LTE2100. I do not recommend B593 in the u-12 and s-12 versions. The first is a router with a LTE3 cat modem, from 5 years ago. The S-12 is newer but truncated and comes from T-Mobile, it has a poor FW. The merchant on Allegro is making a good deal of it. It is not possible to select LTE bands on them. For PLN 250 you can buy B315s-22, versions from Plus, Play work with LTEWatchH and Toolbox. The one from Orange does not show CID. You do not buy this B315 from T-Mobile (hardware and soft castrated). Unless you have a larger budget, then it is worth trying to get a router with LTE-A band aggregation. For example, E5186. At the end, if it is to be pre-paid at Play, the cheapest option is LTE internet with no data limit for PLN 5 / month on an RBM pre-paid card with a 5 card with Free LTE Internet service. Starter with a can for PLN 5. See also my information on how to obtain the Account Validity Year on this tariff and not to top up every 100 days for PLN 50. This is the cheapest option for LTE with no limit in Play. The service has been running for 4 years. For 2 beers, a minimum of 100GB is guaranteed with the full LTE speed available in Play. Then a funnel is possible, but 2Mb / s in practice and 200GB on full.
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  • #9 16190030
    Arek1984
    Level 16  
    bogiebog wrote:
    You can even put the LTE router on the roof in the antenna, then you will minimize the loss of signal in the cable, and send the signal from the router to your home via twisted-pair cable.


    Can every modem and router be exposed to -20 in winter and e.g. +45 in summer?
    Because many manufacturers give the range of work, for example 0st to 40, but maybe just in case they write so?
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    #11 16190339
    matek451
    Level 43  
    LTE signal parameters poor, but you connected to BTS LTE1800Play at Pl. A. Krajowa 2. Sometimes this happens. The closer to the BTS LTE1800 is on December 27. What's your speed? Test at home or outside - of course, for LTE1800 you will need a Dual LTE1800 antenna from Cybertech, set it to the direction of December 27, you will also be able to check how LTE1800 Play works from BTS Miastkowo by setting the antenna to it.
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  • #12 16190367
    tbed
    Level 10  
    Home test, not even by the window. Phone on the table behind the laptop and 13.30 Mbps.
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  • #13 16190748
    matek451
    Level 43  
    So it is worth using the DIL service on RBM for Card 5. The cost of the b315 router is PLN 250-300. In addition, PLN 200 for Cybertech Dual LTE1800MHz with a gain of 15dBi.
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  • #14 16198034
    tbed
    Level 10  
    matek451 wrote:
    See also my information on how to obtain the Account Validity Year on this tariff and not to top up every 100 days for PLN 50.


    Where can I find this information?
  • #16 16200334
    tbed
    Level 10  
    Mothers, thank you very much for your help. If I was tempted to:
    matek451 wrote:
    it is worth trying to get a router with LTE-A band aggregation. For example, E5186.
    or some other you recommend is what antenna then? What else with aggregation would you recommend?
  • #17 16200391
    matek451
    Level 43  
    In the case of BTS from December 27, only LTE1800 + 800 aggregation, LTE2600 does not work, LTE1800 + 2100 aggregates equipment of at least 9 categories. The difference in speed between LTE1800 and LTE-A1800 + 800 is slight. LTE-A 1800 + 2600 from BTS A. Poznań 2 rather unattainable, far away. significant speed increase only on LTE-A2600 + 1800. Broadband antennas are used for band aggregation. For LTE-A 1800 + 800 I use the antenna http://allegro.pl/antena-mimo-lte-combo-huawei-b315-e5186-mf283-10m-i6325195755.html This is an antenna with four radiators, separate 2 for the LTE1800 band and 2 on LTE800. For LTE-A2600 + 1800, logarithmic antennas are used, e.g. http://www.dipol.com.pl/antena_atk-log_alp_lt...2x2_5m_przew_wtyk_sma_800-3000mhz_A7054_5.htm So far, I do not know an effective and proven 1800 + 2600MHz panel antenna. LTE-A 1800 + 2100 aggregation, if you had a 9 category router possible on the air http://www.cybertech.com.pl/p140,antena-dualna-lte-4g-15dbi-mimo-do-huawei-b315.html A little it's all complicated. The following LTE-A routers are available from the hardware. The latest one is B618 with a category 11 modem (aggregates 3 bands at once, including LTE2100), available only on Play for 2 weeks. There are no offers on the market, it is difficult to price it, but probably PLN 700-800. Another of Play is B525 or LTE 6 category, successor to E5186. This E5186 6 category, i.e. the most popular, for PLN 500-600. For this there is also the MF286 from Orange. Plus it offered the DWR-966, both are category 6. Zyxel LTE4506 is freely available for sale for around PLN 850. Overall, the best of the 6 categories is the E5186, easily accessible and affordable. Also good DWR-966 but more expensive and less available. The B618 is in a class of its own, but actually only with a subscription from Play. Added to this are the mobile MiFi, but only the Netgear AC810S is worth attention due to the LTE 9/11 category.
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Topic summary

The discussion revolves around the feasibility of connecting LTE modems to a router's WAN socket using a twisted pair cable. The user currently utilizes an ADSL modem and seeks to transition to LTE with an external antenna on the roof and an LTE modem in the attic. Suggestions include using a Huawei B593 LTE router, which has built-in WiFi and LAN sockets, to connect to a TP-Link TL-WR941ND router on the ground floor via LAN. The conversation also touches on the importance of selecting the right LTE bands and antennas, with recommendations for a Cybertech LTE/4G 15dBi MIMO dual antenna. Users discuss the performance of different LTE providers and the necessity of conducting signal tests to optimize the setup.
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