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Fuse Switchgear Installation Requirements: Height, Single-Family Building, Standards & Regulations

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  • #1 16206064
    antekb
    Level 6  
    Hello!
    What are the requirements for the installation of a fuse switchgear (board), e.g. in a single-family building?
    It is about the location at what height and where it cannot be installed.
    Somewhere I saw that at a height of 1.10m (lower edge) - 1.85m (upper edge).

    What are the regulations, standards for installing the switchgear in the building.

    greetings
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  • #2 16206095
    kkas12
    Level 43  
    And stick to that.
    It should be so that you do not have to make connections from the ladder and the user does not have to climb onto the stool to activate the security.
    And it should be installed in an accessible place, so that in the event of any danger, you can easily get to it.
    It is advisable to follow the design, at least in terms of the location of the board.
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  • #3 16207797
    antekb
    Level 6  
    kkas12 wrote:
    And stick to that.
    It should be so that you do not have to make connections from the ladder and the user does not have to climb onto the stool to activate the security.
    And it should be installed in an accessible place, so that in the event of any danger, you can easily get to it.
    It is advisable to follow the design, at least in terms of the location of the board.


    Designers usually place at the entrance to the house, but there is usually a wardrobe. Contractors are giving to another place anyway.
    What are the regulations regarding the installation and location of the fuse box (switchgear)?
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  • #4 16207818
    kkas12
    Level 43  
    So you should listen to the designers because they adhere to the standards when designing.
    And after the works are completed, its tests should be carried out, which also includes the declaration of compliance with the design, and there is a criminal liability for confirming the untruth.
  • #5 16207849
    JohnySpZOO
    Electric installations specialist
    Here you have some info: Link I do not agree with the option to prohibit the installation of the switchgear above the door, which applies to, among others, for housing construction.

    Generally, you place the switchgear in an accessible place where it is easy to insert the WLZ and a small distance from the earthing terminal. I give switchboards, depending on the possibilities, in the vestibule behind the door or in the garage, in a place where no one will block the board with a wardrobe or a coat hanger - I know such cases from real life.
  • #6 16207877
    elpapiotr
    Electrician specialist
    JohnySpZOO wrote:
    I do not agree with the option to prohibit the installation of the switchgear above the door, which applies to, among others, for housing construction.

    If a friend, God forbid, has a physical disability, he will agree once or twice.
  • #7 16207948
    jann111
    Level 33  
    JohnySpZOO wrote:
    the small distance from the earthing terminal.

    Exactly, and the earthing seems to come from the ground. :wink:
  • #8 16208288
    JohnySpZOO
    Electric installations specialist
    elpapiotr wrote:
    If a friend, God forbid, has a physical disability, he will agree once or twice.
    I take a brush stel, a spoon or a fork, some insulation and aim - it's good that it has overcurrent switches and not fuse links because I would have to think about a patent to remove them :D or I turn on checkers on my phone - I've been playing it lately, and I'm waiting for the help of a professional 24-hour electrician from Tauron. If I can't move on my own, I'll wait for someone - after all, I'm in no hurry.
    Another fairy tale is Chinese RCBO with a spring-back like Eaton's RCD for 500 PLN. net.

    PS I do not want to look for the disks of a project of a multi-family building and its visualization, but the only sensible place for the installation of a switchboard (2x18mod. 3x18mod.) And teletechnical twin to the distribution board in the apartment was just a place above the entrance door and I followed this trail - with nothing it does not collide, does not stick out, does not make a picture or a cross :D

    PS In my apartment, in order to get to the dashboard or check the counter, you need to open the door of the furniture (a board built up to 2m, covered with furniture woodwork - such a whim of the wife) and then open the door from the board - it's best to use a small ladder in which I am equipped :D
  • #9 16208461
    kkas12
    Level 43  
    Sure. And testing RCDs is a pimple.
  • #10 16208797
    JohnySpZOO
    Electric installations specialist
    Kkas12, and who, being disabled, thinks about testing RCDs, maybe while still in the hospital. A bit of realism, distance to the grotesque :D Why is there a neighbor who you can call and ask for help in the age of mobile telephony.

    I bet that the vast majority of declared electricians (I do not penetrate or super professionals :idea: or golden hands from the forum, and even more so from the store, because they are also) tests the RCD regularly (with a receipt in the booklet) and knows how much for their specific RCD model this test should be performed. I did the last test of my RCDs in the summer - from what Eaton stated on the piece of paper with the camera, the testing period for what I have is min. once every 6 months, previously it was once every 2 months.
  • #11 16208813
    elpapiotr
    Electrician specialist
    Respecting himself, the electrician informs the customer how often he should carry out an RCD check using the "TEST" button.
  • #12 16208872
    JohnySpZOO
    Electric installations specialist
    Elpapiotr, I agree with that. Even for the summer, on these switchboards, which I prefabricate at the bottom of the housing, I have given a self-adhesive sticker saying 'Residual current circuit breakers marked with the symbol Q min. once every two months, check with the 'TEST' button by pressing it. I must admit that I do not have this sticker at my place.
  • #13 16208918
    kkas12
    Level 43  
    Quote:
    Kkas12, and who, being disabled, thinks about testing RCDs, maybe while still in the hospital.
    My friend's demagogy. Not every resident of the block is disabled, and the hospital has qualified personnel to operate the installation and the patient does not have to have a headache for it. :)

    There is an explanation of this issue by Dr. Musiał with an appropriate commentary and a relevant photo.
    So there should be no discussion on this subject.
  • #14 16209038
    JohnySpZOO
    Electric installations specialist
    The same opinion and I am :D
  • #15 16210257
    antekb
    Level 6  
    kkas12 wrote:
    So you should listen to the designers because they adhere to the standards when designing.
    And after the works are completed, its tests should be carried out, which also includes the declaration of compliance with the design, and there is a criminal liability for confirming the untruth.


    First, there is something like as-built documentation. You can also agree with the designer and that's it. I do not know if you know, but in the houses, the name of the appropriate place, indicated by the contractor or investor, is made in place, because the designers draw a block of the box on the project and they are not interested in the rest. He will not even consider whether it is practical and whether it does not bother the Investor. And it is so in over 90% of cases.
    Nobody plays such crap, they just make, take measurements, pick up installations and that's all about it.

    Added after 2 [minutes]:

    Gentlemen!
    As the author of the topic, I asked you to indicate some regulations or standards regarding the topic, and here I see a phrasebook off the topic. (normal for this portal :) ).
    Can you please return to the topic of the conversation?

    Added after 7 [minutes]:

    kkas12 wrote:
    Quote:
    Kkas12, and who, being disabled, thinks about testing RCDs, maybe while still in the hospital.
    My friend's demagogy. Not every inhabitant of the block is disabled, and the hospital has qualified personnel to operate the installation and the patient does not have to have a headache for it. :)

    There is an explanation of this issue by Dr. Musiał with an appropriate commentary and a relevant photo.
    So there should be no discussion on this subject.


    Dude, if you do not want to participate in the discussion, do not write that this topic is not meant to be played, but if you know something, answer my question and if you do not know, it is best not to write any unnecessary comments.
    I am interested in a regulation or standard that says about it, not in some stories from people.
  • #16 16210290
    kkas12
    Level 43  
    This is the case, buddy, almost 100% of the time.
    However, I see that you are looking for confirmation of your idea, so follow what you gave in the first post.
    You probably have these provisions in the Regulation on the conditions to be met by buildings and ...

    But I have a question: what will you do if the investor decides to show you the bathroom where the switchgear is located.
    Or an unused attic.
    Won't you care about that too?
    You do not have to answer.
  • #17 16210296
    jann111
    Level 33  
    antekb wrote:
    Somewhere I saw that at a height of 1.10m (lower edge) - 1.85m (upper edge).
    antekb wrote:
    I am interested in a recipe or a standard

    What you saw is in the "Sepian" standard.
    N SEP-E-002 pts. 3.6 Consumer installations in apartments.
  • #18 16210315
    antekb
    Level 6  
    kkas12 wrote:
    This is the case, buddy, almost 100% of the time.
    However, I see that you are looking for confirmation of your idea, so follow what you gave in the first post.
    You probably have these provisions in the Regulation on the conditions to be met by buildings and ...

    But I have a question: what will you do if the investor decides to show you the bathroom where the switchgear is located.
    Or an unused attic.
    Won't you care about that too?
    You do not have to answer.


    Let us not write to my colleague about such matters as the bathroom or its derivatives, because it is a pity to scribble this portal with unnecessary remarks, which are obvious.
    This is not an idea, but somewhere on the Internet I found such dimensions by accident, they were different.
    I am interested in the requirements according to standards and regulations.
  • #19 16210346
    elpapiotr
    Electrician specialist
    Sure here a friend found.
    A recipe is unlikely to be found. Functionality and availability count.
  • #20 16210368
    antekb
    Level 6  
    elpapiotr wrote:
    Sure here a friend found.
    And the rules are unlikely to be found. Functionality and availability count.


    And I had a similar article, but the drawings were the same :) Thanks for the article.
    I will try to find in the act:
    1. Regulation of the Minister of Infrastructure of April 12, 2002 on technical conditions to be met by buildings and their location - Journal of Laws of 2002, No. 75, item 690, of 2003, No. 33, item 270, of 2004. No. 109, item 1156, of 2009, No 56, item. 9.
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  • #21 16210391
    jann111
    Level 33  
    Buddy, you don't understand much from the hints. Even Dr. Musiał cited the source in this article.
  • #22 16210419
    antekb
    Level 6  
    jann111 wrote:
    Buddy, you don't understand much from the hints. Even Dr. Musiał cited the source in this article.

    That's what you answered yourself, I see.
    See the post above. I got it from there :)
  • #23 16210474
    elpapiotr
    Electrician specialist
    HERE there is a source article by Dr. Musiał.

Topic summary

The discussion centers on the installation requirements for fuse switchgear in single-family buildings, emphasizing the importance of accessibility and compliance with regulations. The recommended installation height ranges from 1.10m to 1.85m, ensuring that users can operate the switchgear without needing a ladder. It is advised to place the switchgear in accessible locations, avoiding areas that could obstruct access, such as behind doors or in wardrobes. Participants highlight the necessity of adhering to design standards and regulations, including the Regulation of the Minister of Infrastructure regarding technical conditions for buildings. The conversation also touches on the importance of regular testing of residual current devices (RCDs) and the implications of improper installation.
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