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Samsung UE46F5370 BN44-00611D Power Supply - PFC not starting, SEM3050 to SPC7011F swap

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  • #1 16266855
    mery5
    Level 15  
    In the power supply with the symbol BN44-00611D, the PFC does not start, a diagram identical to this:
    Samsung UE46F5370 BN44-00611D Power Supply - PFC not starting, SEM3050 to SPC7011F swap
    The system works on SEM3050, unfortunately not available, on the forum I found out that its replacement is the SPC7011F. I put it in, it came from a working power supply, but unfortunately the PFC does not start. The supply voltage appears cyclically during the measurements
    on the leg 8, ok 9V, but I look with the oscilloscope and silence at OUT.
    Are these actually replacements?
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  • #2 16269182
    SERVICE-AV
    Level 39  
    There is definitely the SSC2005SC
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  • #3 16269337
    mirex
    Level 43  
    mery5 wrote:
    I found out that its replacement is the SPC7011F

    Theoretically it could be. Like FA5591 or FA5695. Maybe something else would be found.
    The joke is that you probably have the original working too.
    Check the QS801 area more carefully. ;)
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  • #4 16274624
    Marek09
    Level 24  
    At 9V, it will not start.
    For FA5695: 10V minimum, typically 12V.
  • #5 16279870
    mery5
    Level 15  
    mirex wrote:
    Check the QS801 area more carefully. ;)

    You probably mean DXT651 clearly and probably incorrectly marked on my Q5801 diagram.
    Mirex you probably know what the problem is and you can save me the trouble of this colossus that cannot even be "put up" during repair.
    Anyway, thanks for the suggestions.
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  • #6 16280036
    mirex
    Level 43  
    mery5 wrote:
    Mirex you probably know what the problem is

    Maybe I know, maybe I just guess. I've already said a lot.
    mery5 wrote:
    you can save me the trouble of this colossus that cannot even be "put up" during repair.

    Sorry, but I thought it was already fixed.
    Colossus? Can't bet? Joke of the week. ;)
    And anyway, this "colossus" can even lie under the bed of the neighbor, because it is not needed for repair. ;)
  • #7 16280212
    lisek
    Service technician RTV
    Jedno co się "psuło" przy opisanych objawach .. to RS802=10 ohm
    *z emitera qs801 na pin.8 SEM3050 ( wylutuj pomierz )
    *czasem TL431/ opto.


    Jeśli nap. na elektrolitycznym kondensatorze PFC będzie zawyżone napięcie ponad 400V
    -korekcja_pomiar elementów dzielnika R podł. pod pin.1
    Podobny schemat ma BN44-00645A
    _________________
    Róznica pomiędzy SEM3050 i SSC2005SC to
    - elementy przy pin.3/ pin4

    Quote:
    pin.3 SSC2005SC is designed to set the maximum open time key to eliminate acoustic noise in the throttle (dławik TP801CS) at small input voltages the mains * (at low voltages on the network, the current in the inductor and increases the key to pull out the specified voltage at the output, so the throttle can be satisfied, and noise)

    pin.4 SSC2005SC is used to adjust time delay, and ...generally there hung a smoothing capacitor, and depending on its capacity can also be adjusted the delay, but the capacity limit should also be to avoid large charging current.
  • #8 21236662
    electrorap2010
    Level 1  
    Check RS802 10 Ohms, sure
    Close-up of a circuit board with a color-coded resistor visible.
    is out of value.. sem3050 not start.!!

Topic summary

The discussion revolves around troubleshooting the power supply unit (PSU) BN44-00611D in a Samsung UE46F5370 television, specifically addressing issues with the Power Factor Correction (PFC) circuit not starting. The user initially replaced the SEM3050 component with an SPC7011F, which was suggested as a compatible alternative. However, the PFC still fails to initiate, with measurements indicating a cyclic supply voltage of approximately 9V on pin 8, but no output is observed. Various responses suggest checking the RS802 resistor, which should measure 10 ohms, and verifying the TL431 or opto components. Additionally, it is noted that the SEM3050 requires a minimum of 10V to start, with 12V being typical. The discussion also mentions the SSC2005SC as a potential alternative to the SEM3050.
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