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Choosing Electronic Caliper: Brands, Accuracy & Budget (PLN 80-120) - Luna Analog Alternative

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  • #1 16282806
    dyzio-dyzio
    Level 3  
    Which electronic caliper should be chosen up to PLN 120 (PLN 80-120), which company do you recommend? I currently have an analogue "LUNA". It should be as accurate as possible. :)
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  • #2 16282822
    nadchloran
    Level 11  
    In this price range, you won't find it very accurate, there will be a lot of slack and inaccurate reading, best regards.
  • #3 16282839
    mariuszp19
    Level 35  
    You must remember that showing a caliper is one thing, and its measurement uncertainty is another. Now, most electronic calipers have a display that points to an accuracy of 0.01mm. However, do not be fooled, because there is no way that with such uncertainty - that's what it is called now, she is measuring. There is also the topic of calibrating such a tool, if the measurement is to be reliable, it must be systematically checked and calibrated. If you are unable to ensure regular checks, give it a go and buy a supermarket.
  • #4 16282854
    nadchloran
    Level 11  
    Well, unless a friend is satisfied with such accuracy, I think that the accuracy to 0.1 mm is already available in this type of calipers.
  • #5 16282860
    mariuszp19
    Level 35  
    Well, yes, only a friend writes about the most accurate, so I try to enlighten him so that he does not blindly believe the indications.
  • #6 16282867
    Freddy
    Level 43  
    dyzio-dyzio wrote:
    Which electronic caliper should be chosen up to PLN 120 (PLN 80-120), which company do you recommend?
    It has to be pretty or accurate :) ?
    If nice, then anything for PLN 30, and if accurate, for example, Mitutoyo or VIS (Polish production).
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  • #7 16284859
    dyzio-dyzio
    Level 3  
    Not bad prices of these calipers: /, I guess I'll stick with the good old Polish "luna", thank you for making me aware :) , Come on, I don't deny that I am still tempted by the digital one :) but max PLN 120, thank you. :)
  • #8 16284870
    Freddy
    Level 43  
    Then buy yourself a digital one, cheap but metal, not plastic. They are on Allegro for about PLN 30.
    After using a digital one for a while and controlling it with an analog, you will get into practice.

    I personally have two different ones.
    For such daily measurements, I use one for PLN 30.
    When I "go to the machines" I take the good old Polish VIS (made on the Mitutoyo module, anyway - it used to cost almost PLN 900).
  • #9 16284914
    cirrostrato
    Level 38  
    I will add a little: I am playing (more and more seriously, I recently launched two factory winders) in reeling of tactics, I needed something that would measure the diameter of the winding wires up to about 2mm with an accuracy of 0.01mm, I got a micrometer from All for the Christmas tree (I suggested such a gift myself) for the price about PLN 25 (many sellers, prices different as well as packaging, visually it seems that the manufacturer in China is one), I took it for the first time with a certain amount of shyness ("intimidating" price ...), measuring tips secured, I washed with wax '' in gasoline, left for a few hours at room temperature, zeroed (the key is included in the set) and measured a few wires from known (described) spools, I borrowed gauge plates from a friend and also measured them with a micrometer, I am amazed at the accuracy of the measurement results (I use for about a year) and good quality of the device at an amazingly low price. When the temperature drops from 22 to 16 degrees (the heating of the basement is reduced, where I move the hit with a jump), after a few hours, the zero setting should be corrected by about half a plot.
  • #10 16284923
    Freddy
    Level 43  
    cirrostrato wrote:
    I was given a micrometer for Christmas (I suggested such a gift myself)
    The author is looking for a caliper, not a micrometer - so what does your post bring?
  • #11 16284932
    dyzio-dyzio
    Level 3  
    The caliper will be used once in a while, maybe it's my convenience, but I don't want to look for the exact scale on the scale and the digital result is ready :)
  • #12 16284944
    mariuszp19
    Level 35  
    But digital can also be bought for a dozen / several dozen PLN. For such applications, it makes no sense to buy MITUTOYO, TESSA or VIS.
  • #13 16289794
    dyzio-dyzio
    Level 3  
    I was looking for and found something like this: ELECTRONIC caliper 150mm Corona C3431 0.01mm:
    Characteristic

    length 150 mm
    accuracy 0.01 mm
    LCD display
    measurement in mm and inches
    has the CE mark
    I think that for my hobby applications it will be ok
    made of steel
    plastic case
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  • #14 16289825
    Freddy
    Level 43  
    dyzio-dyzio wrote:
    ELECTRONIC caliper 150mm Corona C3431 0.01mm
    As long as it's not plastic ("made of steel"), that's enough for you.
  • #15 16289911
    dyzio-dyzio
    Level 3  
    yes it is made of steel :) and what else it looks pretty nice :)
  • #16 16290498
    mariuszp19
    Level 35  
    He can go ahead and take, although I would look for a cheaper one. But cool.
  • #18 16290559
    Freddy
    Level 43  
    mariuszp19 wrote:
    He can go ahead and take, although I would look for a cheaper one. But cool.
    Cheaper than what? You don't know what the author found.
  • #19 16290634
    mariuszp19
    Level 35  
    Freddy wrote:
    Cheaper than what? You don't know what the author found.


    But what do you mean? After all, the author has clearly identified the model he is going to buy.
    dyzio-dyzio wrote:
    I was looking for and found something like this: ELECTRONIC caliper 150mm Corona C3431 0.01mm:
    Characteristic

    length 150 mm
    accuracy 0.01 mm
    LCD display
    measurement in mm and inches
    has the CE mark
    I think that for my hobby applications it will be ok
    made of steel
    plastic case
  • #20 16290812
    mikke2
    Level 14  
    I do not believe that this caliper measures with an accuracy of 0.01 mm.
  • #21 16290861
    mariuszp19
    Level 35  
    This is the accuracy of the display. It is by no means a measurement uncertainty. We did statistical tests of calipers with such an indication and after many attempts it turned out that the tolerance of dimensions measured with such a caliper should not be higher than 0.4mm. Of course, one cannot suggest it, the tests were carried out by different controllers (different clamping force), in different conditions and the parts to be measured were made of different materials.
    Generally, no caliper measures with a measurement uncertainty of 0.01mm.
  • #22 16290949
    Freddy
    Level 43  
    mariuszp19 wrote:
    Generally, no caliper measures with a measurement uncertainty of 0.01mm.
    Not true - Mitutoyo ABsolute Digimatic series.
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  • #23 16291016
    mariuszp19
    Level 35  
    Freddy wrote:
    Not true - Mitutoyo ABsolute Digimatic series.


    I think my colleague did not read something. The caliper he writes about has a display with a resolution of 0.01 mm, so this alone disqualifies it from measurements with the same uncertainty.
    Besides, the measurement uncertainty was mistaken for repeatability (please refer to the reading).
    I enclose the specification from the manufacturer's website:

    Technical Data

    Accuracy: Refer to the list of specifications
    Resolution: 0.01mm or .0005 "/0.01mm
    Repeatability: 0.01mm / .0005 "
    Display: LCD
    Length standard: ABSOLUTE electrostatic capacitance type
    linear encoder
    Max. response speed: Unlimited
    Battery: SR44 (1 pc.), 938882
    Battery life: Approx. 3.5 years under normal use

    The table below this specification clearly states:
    Accuracy - +/- 0.02mm - which gives us 0.04mm
  • #24 16291043
    Freddy
    Level 43  
    mariuszp19 wrote:
    I think my colleague did not read something. ... Besides, the measurement uncertainty was mistaken for repeatability
    A colleague will learn to read and understand what I have written.
    Quote:
    (I refer to reading).
    I, on the other hand, to learn culture :) . I know what I am writing and I distinguish between terms.

    A colleague wrote.
    mariuszp19 wrote:
    Generally no calipers does not measure with a measurement uncertainty of 0.01mm.
    This is not true and I wrote that too.

    Let a friend read what he writes sometimes, but with understanding.
  • #25 16291092
    mariuszp19
    Level 35  
    Freddy wrote:
    I know what I am writing and I distinguish between terms.

    Probably not really.

    Freddy wrote:
    This is not true and I wrote that too.

    After all, is it true or not?

    Freddy wrote:
    Let a friend read what he writes sometimes, but with understanding.

    You too.

    I end this discussion. I invite you to a short lecture on metrology during your stay in the area. My knowledge is supported by many years of experience in industrial metrology, documented with many certificates (including GUM), so I will be happy to share it.
  • #26 16309205
    Anonymous
    Level 1  
  • #27 16309624
    rubens
    VIP Meritorious for electroda.pl
    Bieda z nędzą wrote:
    Two hundred doughs is none. I had such for a hundred (with Hart), I had such for two hundred, I don't remember the company. Either the battery lasted a month, or the guard on the guide rubbed off. When they opened them quickly, I had stupid things on the display.
    I bought from Mitutoyo, it really measures, but I don't like it anyway. I prefer the regular one with the vernier.

    And here my colleague touched the heart of the matter.
    We bought a few "lidl" calipers for "fast" measurements without any pressure on accuracy (use from time to time).
    We borrowed GUM-certified sample blocks from our neighbors.
    Surprisingly, practically all of these Chinese devices measured much more accurately than you might expect (we measured up to 1 cm thick).
    Unfortunately, my calipers had problems with zeroing, and the others have what my colleague described above.
    After some time, the scales began to peel off.
    What's more interesting in our "model" Sylvac, after 5 years of use, the scale also begins to peel off.
    Having learned from this experience, I decided to buy Mitutoyo when I bought it for a house - I hunted for a "new" for a long time at a reasonable price, but I managed to hunt for about 250 zlotys.
    Be careful because the 500 196 20 series is massively counterfeited by the Chinese and you can get into the bottle by buying from an unreliable source.
    To sum up - cheap calipers for occasional use (if you get a good copy) are approx.
    Having a guarantee, you can always return (as in my case), but you have to keep the receipt.

Topic summary

In the discussion about choosing an electronic caliper within a budget of PLN 80-120, participants highlighted the challenges of finding accurate devices in this price range. Many noted that while electronic calipers may display an accuracy of 0.01mm, actual measurement uncertainty can be significantly higher, often around 0.4mm. Recommendations included brands like Mitutoyo and VIS for better accuracy, while some suggested cheaper alternatives available on platforms like Allegro. A specific model mentioned was the Corona C3431, which offers a length of 150mm and an accuracy of 0.01mm, made of steel. Users emphasized the importance of calibration and the potential issues with plastic models. Overall, the consensus leaned towards balancing aesthetics and functionality, with a preference for metal over plastic constructions.
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