Renovation: Adding 60mm Socket in Load-Bearing Wall - Electrical Safety & Legal Aspects

Tomeksup wrote:

I'm not going to get tired of the drill. Easier and faster.

You can see inexperience. It doesn't get easier and faster than with a drill. SDS of course.

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Łukasz-O wrote:

And what does "scratch" mean. It is rather difficult to scratch something in a concrete slab.

I meant cutting grooves without disturbing the reinforcement wires. For example, at edges or joints of boards.

retrofood wrote:

I meant cutting grooves without disturbing the reinforcement wires. For example, at edges or joints of boards.

Ok now I understand what scratching means ;)


I repeat my request to the specialists. Show photos of your works in a large, unfinished state.

Łukasz-O wrote:

... the question of how much a centimeter groove will weaken a 15 cm wide slab. There is no need to forge furrows in Żerań slabs because there are pots.

Just as a diamond scratch will weaken the glass.
This should be remembered when someone wants to make a groove in filigree plates.

kkas12 wrote:

Just as a diamond scratch will weaken the glass.
This should be remembered when someone wants to make a groove in filigree plates.

I wrote about the wall without disturbing and cutting the bars. And when we compare it to glass, we should mention wired glass.
There are no filigree plates in the walls, even on the ceilings in the large slab they were not used.

Filigrees are used today.
I can assure you that the ideas of cutting grooves in the ceilings are still alive, regardless of whether it is a large slab or today's buildings. And nowhere have I written that they are used in walls.
On the other hand, reinforced glass, when cut with a diamond, breaks in the same way as without reinforcement.

But if you don't see anything wrong with the grooving of the great slab, that's your business. Just write.
For me, it's a penguin dancing on glass.

Łukasz-O wrote:

I wrote about the wall without disturbing and cutting the bars.

Let's clarify one point (it's not for you ). You can even cut bars and remove entire pieces of the board, but the decision on this topic is not up to the contractor!
My brother-in-law, a construction builder, carried out many projects to cut a door opening in the slab, because someone dreamed of a different layout of the apartment. However, he always checked which building it was about, what technology it was made of, went to see where the user dreamed of a new door, and then developed the technology of execution. Usually, the first thing to do was to cut out the space for the lintel, insert and install it, and only after a few or a dozen or so days, to cut out the rest. Forging was out of the question! Usually, it also included a clause stating that work may only be carried out under the supervision of a person with appropriate construction qualifications. Everything took place in the regime of the classic building permit and nobody complained that bureaucracy!

retrofood wrote:

... first there was a cutout for the lintel ...

Explain to the home-grown the need for a lintel in a concrete wall. For most people, this is overwhelming.

Cutting door openings in load-bearing plates is a completely different caliber, let's not compare it to an electrical installation.

He is not calling for pointless furrowing anytime, anywhere. Everything has to be done in a way and with the head depending on the type of building.

Łukasz-O wrote:

Cutting door openings in load-bearing plates is a completely different caliber, let's not compare it to an electrical installation.

The caliber is different, but it is possible to maintain a certain procedure and technical culture, which I wanted to make some impetuous people realize.

retrofood wrote:

The caliber is different, but it is possible to maintain a certain procedure and technical culture, which I wanted to make some impetuous people realize.

Of course it is possible and it is even necessary. However, one should not become paranoid.

Łukasz-O wrote:

I repeat my request to the specialists. Show photos of your works in a large, unfinished state.

Don't be kidding yourself. After such work, you must have a plasterer and a painter on the cito and God forbid you take a picture. :D


I wrote about it once, but the thread ended up somewhere in the bin, so I'll repeat the story I know from the autopsy.
A "wise man" was hitting himself for cables in a large slab, as well as for plumbing. One floor above there was a "patron" who hated noise and had plugs in NB. He reported the matter to the Building Supervision and the latter stated that the building should be expertly assessed and the costs were allegedly charged to the "wise man".
And there is no shortage of "patrons" today ...

Such "patrons" happen at every step and during every job. Not necessarily related to the renovation of the apartment.
I have never been reluctant to show my works. These are a few photos from the great album: Link .
It is a pity that other colleagues only write and point out bunglings and will not show their works. Are you ashamed of what? After all, you are perfect professionals :D



And here to read and watch: Link

Łukasz-O wrote:

And here to read and watch: Link

You need to be careful :D

http://bloczyblog.pl/index.php/2013/02/08/ekipa-na-ekipie-ekipa-pogania/ wrote:

Seven independent teams (as well as the construction manager) participated in the renovation of our apartment. It looked like this chronologically:
- all-round construction gentlemen (demolition, new walls, electrics, water and sewage, tiles, all treatments) - 4 months (with breaks for the work of other teams)
(...)
Our conclusions? The more versatile the team - the more involved in the renovation. Choose comprehensiveness.

http://bloczyblog.pl/index.php/2013/03/07/pierwszy-dzien/ wrote:

The dishwasher was electrocuting and the oven was not plugged in at all. In a word - nothing extraordinary.